Such weird leader choices.
Such weird leader choices
>Poland has so many great and noble kings
>several who have saved the country from foreign invaders
>choose fucking Jadwiga
Kurwa jego macz to jest samo gowno.
still mad that they chose teddy over washington
>still no Hitler because le evil man
it's a whole list of literally whose. what did jadwiga do?
honestly I'm relieved because I was tired of Washington/Lincoln every game
>Cleopatra not a 10/10 semen demon
Shit game.
>Saladin
time to occupy the Holy Land
Washington was a freemason cuck who raised another man's kids. Teddy was based.
marry someone more important
>Some foreign cunt is the leader of England again
Feels bad. I hope one day we'll get an Anglo-Saxon King or a Prime Minister who wasn't half American and didn't serve American international interests first and foremost.
Partitioned the Kingdom of Galicia-Volhynia/Rus with the Hungarians, which probably lead to western Ukraine being a shithole now instead of an okay independent country.
Nah, Teddy is best president so it was a good choice.
Honestly the only 4 presidents they can do without pissing people off are Washington, Jefferson (I'd like this), Lincoln, and Teddy. Almost anyone else would make people angry because there's such a divide in popularity down the political line.
Cleopatra, Montezuma, Pedro II, Teddy, Gilgamesh, Hojo, Peter, and Victoria are good choices.
The rest are either shit or tiring.
Im hoping DLC adds Genghis Khan. He was so important to history, that he has to be around.
I thought England loved Victoria?
why are there 2 greece
>still no Kennedy, the most honest president the US will ever have.
Only Monarcucks love Victoria Rottooth, she was a worthless hag who sat in her palace stuffing her fat face while parliament actually ran the country.
Trajan seems like a weird choice for Rome
>Pedro II Brazil
Is that all Brazil fucking has for 'great leaders'?
>A man whose family made their money off of selling booze during prohibition
>Cheated on his wife many times
>Honest
I mean, he's a good president, but he's not fucking honest.
why is ghandi a nigger and why is he always the indian thing
Trajan wass officially recognized as the best ruler of Rome by the senate itself desu
Who the hell is that that shemale on Greece?
Why do they have a literal who for Nipland?
Why do they have a Turk leading Arabia?
Roosevelt is a pretty okay choice for America actually, even if the devs are still being weirdly contrarian for not just going with Washington or Lincoln
He best represents a united India.
Gilgamesh is fucking based and I love how animated Teddy is in his cutscenes. Vicky's voice acting is just the right amount of posh too.
Also, Catherine shifting between French and Italian based on how mad she is is a nice touch.
I'm tired of Ghandi, though, India has other leaders and the nuke meme is stale
>tfw not Jan Sobieski
Not even a pole myself and I'd have rather a different leader.
Not really. Rome was at its peak under Trajan.
So the memes about Gandhi starting world war every time can continue
Tradition at this point, he's been in every game, same as Montezuma
still, there are several more iconic choices
Most of Brazil's history was being ruled by other countries Leaders. You'd have to go back to the Inca for "Brazil" leaders, but then its a different Civilization.
Why is Harald Hardruler, who is most famous for being so completely and utterly BTFO that the entire Viking age ended, there?
Please
He's only the Indian leader 100% of the time because of the nuke memes.
Cleopatra was very plain looking and had a fucking huge nose
People were attracted to her because of her sharp wit and charming personality, she was kind of an uggo
>Teddy is contrarian
You what
>no cleopatra webms
shit thread
Should have gone with Franklin Roosevelt since the fucker was elected four times and would have continued winning except that he died.
If they wanted to do an espionage leader for France, who has historical personality, actually ruled and was actually French, why not Cardinal Richelieu?
I was talking as a president, not personally. Every man worth his manhood WILL cheat on their wife/girlfriend. If you aren't you are not a real man.
They should have given Tokugawa the nod for Japan in Civ6.
Compared to who else I mentioned, yeah.
Because Norway has never produced any other leader of note because they're shit
They have alt leaders now, but only included one in the default game.
You are the only person I've ever seen say that.
Give me the romanticized version of Cleopatra, aka a semen demon.
What always gets me is that everyone looks kinda stylized/cartoonish, almost like Pixar characters... except for Teddy Roosevelt, who just looks like Teddy Roosevelt.
Nah, that makes you an animal, not a man.
Have some self control and be better than women.
That's Theodora who actually wished she had more holes so she could take more men inside her at once.
German history is full of much more competent and "great" leaders. Hitler couldn't have conquered shit if he didn't have the best military culture under his command.
Hojo Tokimune seems alright. "Literal whos" are fine when it's cool/justifiable literal whos I feel, it's interesting learning about shit like that too.
>the only 4 presidents they can do without pissing people off are Washington, Jefferson (I'd like this), Lincoln, and Teddy
What about FDR, Wilson, Truman, Eisenhower, Madison, or Adams?
Although there is some sick part of me which wishes they'd pick Andrew Jackson just to watch the tears flow.
t. numale
I still don't know what the t. stands for, but I'll use it anyways. Somebody please tell me.
IIRC it comes from another language, and is equivalent to "regards".
It mean "sourced from"
Eisenhower would make a good alternative leader, I think, for domination victories. I feel like they avoid him specifically because he's a war hero and they would have to build bonuses off that even though half of the civs are already expansionist warmongers.
>no simón bolívar for the great Colombia
droped
were you there?
Truman, FDR, and Madison are a bit iffy among people. Liberals hate Madison for example, they'd want lolHamilton.
Adams and Wilson are doable, but they're not that popular.
Andrew Jackson would be amazing but would cause a shitstorm second only to if they went with fucking Obama for US or Hitler for Germany.
I remember when the tumblrs got mad at this depiction of cleopatra for being white.
Despite the fact she's from fucking greece.
And once that was pointed out to them, they were mad that the game didn't have someone from egypt as the egypt leader.
FDR was shit
If they were going by the rule that real-life expansionists made for domination victory civs, then Civ V wouldn't have had Alexander leaning towards diplomatic victory nor would it have had Napoleon leaning towards cultural victory.
>they were mad that the game didn't have someone from egypt as the egypt leader
I think that's a fair criticism though.
>Phillip
Cool!
>Catherine
For what purpose?
>Victoria
Cool!
>Harald
Cool, but Sweden or Denmark should have been instead, sorry Norway
>Frederick
Cool!
>Jadwiga
For what purpose?
>Peter
Cool!
>Trajan
Cool!
>Pericles
Cool!
>Gorgo, Sparta
For what purpose for what purpose?
>Qin
Cool!
>Hojo
For what purpose?
>Ghandi
Tradition, at this point.
>Tomirys, Scythia
Cool, but for what purpose? Can't really offer an alternative though.
>Gilgamesh, Sumer
For what purpose for what purpose?
>Saladin
Cool!
>Teddy
Cool!
>Pedro
Cool, but should have been old man Pedro
>Monty
Cool!
>Cleopatra
For what purpose?
>Bazinga
Cool, but should have gone by Afonso considering Religious Convert is his special ability
Overall there's some great choices, but the few extremely poor choices kind of ruin the whole thing.
>No Mella or Luperon for Dominican Republic
>No Enriquillo, Caonabo or Anacaona
We aren't in anything and our natives didn't build shit, aliens didn't visit us to help us build pyramids and lost cities.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Maybe they wanted to do something different and not rethread leaders used in the last iterations?
Nah
I refuse to date someone with children, and if they cheat on me they get kicked to the curb.
I'm a traditionalist.
Finnish.
it means LURK MOAR FAG
>Eisenhower
No one cares about Ukraine
>Not supporting best bro Gilgamesh
The overwhelming consensus among historians, governance, and general academia begs to differ.
>Egypt
We.
>I think that's a fair criticism though.
I'd also consider it a fair criticism if it was the only one on that list that wasn't foreign.
Victoria is german, for example
>(((historians)))
>(((governance)))
>(((academia)))
Wanting FDR is like wanting Reagan.
Yea, they're both good presidents. Even many republicans think FDR was pretty good, and even many democrats think Reagan was pretty good.
But you will piss off a LOT of other people by having either in.
>Why do they have a Turk leading Arabia?
Don't say that in front of kurds
She did the same role as the Queen today does only with more pomp and blind loyalty
Not that user but I don't think FDR would be a very controversial choice, especially not as controversial as Reagan
>Gilgamesh
Why are they using a fictional demigod as one of their characters?
Roosevelt, Peter, Cleo, Trajan and Pericles are alright.
Also based nukeman as always
What is this meme? Every time I play with a Gil, he's a prissy cunt that always hates me
Well FDR was a much worse president than Reagan.
Nobody really cares about any of the shitholes east of the Oder.
Let me guess you're a Republican? Fuck off, traitor.
Smug Philip is the best, although I do like cramming my big armies into Cleopatra's cities
Slurpy Slurpy German cummies boy.
I'm not a monarcuck, but I am a monarchist. I don't support the house of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha.
To be fair he's one of the greatest leaders in all history, not just Brazil.
>we will never get an actual Indian leader because of LE NUKE MAN MEME
Korea DLC when?
> Western Character Design
I wonder why all of them look like retards?
>"I was born to devote myself to culture and sciences," the Emperor remarked in his private journal during 1862. He had always been eager to learn and found in books a refuge from the demands of his position. Subjects which interested Pedro II were wide-ranging, including anthropology, history, geography, geology, medicine, law, religious studies, philosophy, painting, sculpture, theater, music, chemistry, physics, astronomy, poetry and technology, among others. By the end of his reign, there were three libraries in São Cristóvão palace containing more than 60,000 books. A passion for linguistics prompted him throughout his life to study new languages, and he was able to speak and write not only Portuguese but also Latin, French, German, English, Italian, Spanish, Greek, Arabic, Hebrew, Sanskrit, Chinese, Occitan and Tupi. He became the first Brazilian photographer when he acquired a daguerreotype camera in March 1840. He set up one laboratory in São Cristóvão devoted to photography and another to chemistry and physics. He also had an astronomical observatory constructed.
I got no major problem with Gilgy or Sumeria, I just think there could have been much better, at least more relevant ancient Mesopotamian civ.
Gilgamesh is known to have been a real person to have existed.
Because it looks like it's based on the artstyle of Asterix and Obelix
How does using taxpayer's money to build a private library and observatory make one a great leader?
>the only thing jagwida did was marry some dude and be the King's daughter
Wow, so progressive
Who the fuck is mvem bazinga
Nigga only now we finally got rid of Attila/Genghis rape train
At least we might still get a second leader for every civ
>user thinks we won't get Mongols
No, that fucking stupid greentext isn't sourced.
Kongo chieftan that converted to christianity
>tfw they almost certainly won't do Songhai again
I fucking loved Askia
River Warlord was such a fun warmonger ability. Nothing kills your murderboner faster than slogging through terrain.