WOW.. WOOOOOW this is the last fucking straw...

WOW.. WOOOOOW this is the last fucking straw. Fuck you Sup Forums and fuck you for praising this game and its bad decisions

>Get back to firelink after obtaining lordvessel
>Loud snoring
>Go to investigate it
>See some grey thing that looks like a tree root
>Oh cool, new path
>Jump down hole
>Suddenly some snake gets angry with me and leaves
>All because i jumped past him he wont eat items or trade anything, and he doesn't reappear

Woiw, So because I did what this game told me to: Be adventurous, I get fucking punished and now i cant even reverse it? Fucking GAY, Give me my damn items you overgrown gardenhose

ok

Shut up, Woolie.

you're bad at games and got punished for it. I don't see anything wrong here.

How am I /bad/ for jumping into a new area that opened? Thats complete and utter fucking bullshit, and if you SERIOUSLY defend this kind of gameplay, you're worse then the Sony Movie watchers you despise so muich. Like holy fuck, get off your high horse, At least mobile gaming is FAIR

What's more retarded is that to get him to wake up you have to punch him an action that would aggro most NPCs. Was literally stuck for a month cause of that shit like whoo From you're sooo cool expecting me to do what I've been taught not to do up to that point to progress FUCK YOU BITCH!

>jumping in a black hole that was, up to this point, always certain death
>hurhur new area, bad game hur
My bait sense is tingling

This actually worked probably exactly as intended for me. I kept clicking to talk and he was snoring, then I got mad and just attacked him and he woke up. It was pretty funny I thought.

lol i know right? fuckin gay ass game lollll

>Black hole

It was water earlier, not a hole. I figured whatever was asleep was down there, i shouldn't be punished just because i missed him. I should be allowed to apologize, or absolve, whats the point of the fucking sin system if I cant go back on my choices?

Problem is i NEED this guy for titanite and extra souls, and now i cant use him until NEXT playhrough. HAHAHAHA do you honestly tihnk theres going to BE a next playthrough after this?! REALLY?! I'm fucking done as soon as i beat this stupid 4 kings

Why do you bait so hard, user-sama?

its just a game. calm down

Obscure stuff like this is actually not a bad decision. In the short-term, it's frustrating, but then again, so is the regular gameplay for newcomers. In the long term, it adds replayability so you have a reason to go through NG+ or start a second character - to try and finish all the NPC questlines you messed up or explore them.

>2
Why are you fucking insufferable with this bait crap? Every thread man, I've posted help and complaint threads ALL week, and only two, TWO people, have been remotely helpful to my cause. Fuck off with your bait fetish, there aint no fish here small fry.

SEE. Someone here has COMMON SENSE.

>whats the point of the fucking sin system if I cant go back on my choices?

What's the point of choices if you can go back on them?

>he even lies in his posts
Be gentle, bait senpai

Jesus christ you're fucking retarded or just a really convincing DSP-tier troll.
In a game where falling down random pits will almost always lead to instant death (in a game where death is a very heavy consequence), why the fuck would you just go jumping down a random bottomless hole without thinking?

That's almost akin to DSIII where, if you enter the firelink shrine for the first time and kill the blacksmith for some idiotic reason, you cry foul that he won't upgrade your equipment anymore since you murdered him.

How did you get anywhere in life?

Fuck off, You're being ignored starting as of now

Whats the point of going back on anything? the point is to move forward, which evidently i can't do because of this fucking snake. not showing up. This is impeding worse then the fucking curse status. I was promised i could trade my shit end game, and now you tell me i can only do it if the ONE NPC WHO CAN DO IT, DOESNT COMPLETELY FUCKING VANISH?! NONSENSE. UTTER RUBBISH AND PLAIN DEBAUCHERY.

>common sense
>you bumped into me, get cancer and die

>>Jump down hole
why would you do that?

>Oh no shitposter-san ignores my shitpost
Try actual complaints about the game, stop being a retard and don't use some shitty reasons why this game is "unfair" and we can discuss.
Have a kiss sweety

Global Rule 3

Tart as fuck user.

Because it was a new area? its not rocket science. Why would a random pit suddenly open in an area that had water? its obviously a flase pit. I'm not new to this guy.

Fuck off. Don't talk to him, hes a waste of skin.

>Water goes down a hole, that may or may not be bottomless
>There must be a new area
How do you survive the winter?

Fuck off, no rules are being broken by me sperging out autistically about a game, it's Sup Forums related, vdieogame related, and someone here will actually be sympathetic to my cause, unlike you assholes. This game has problems and i will adress them,. whether you like it or not.

>why the fuck would you just go jumping down a random bottomless hole without thinking?

Dont worry user.
Being this bad, you wont beat 4 kings.

>its obviously a flase pit
Every "false" pit in the game has a clue to indicate it's walkable, just like the invisible paths at the crystal cave

This is some serious retardation

yeah, you fucked up. You gotta live with the consequences.

its not like it matters. he doesnt do anything worth mentioning. I used him maybe once or twice on my first playthrough, and actually ended up fucking myself over by feeding him my titanite slabs. Now you know, and its not like it really matters.

>What's more retarded is that to get him to wake up you have to punch him an action that would aggro most NPCs.
Dumbass. He wakes up automatically after a while.

You sorry fool... You could not be the chosen one

Anyways

>choosing frampt over kaathe ever

Kaathe and Frampt are the same shit

Uh no? Obviously I played more games then you, it was obvious as fuck.

Also, The firelink shrine is RIGHT above londo, so if i fell it wouldn't be bottomless, I'd end up in londo dummy. Do you not understand physics either?

Well don't you feel dumb user? Guess who just beat the FIVE kings? And fuck that ruse, it clearly said FOUR,

I'd gladly choose him, if he were in the abyss, he's fucking gone too!

I had a pretty similar experience my first playthrough, trust me on this.
1 - The souls you can get for trading items to Frampt are pitiful, and you could easily earn them by just putting your soapstone down and helping someone run a boss. The only other thing he offers is breaking down titanite, which is, well... why would you want to split a rare chunk into large shards? Great way to lock yourself out of being able to get a weapon fully upgraded this playthrough.
2 - Once you get past that anger, that's when you'll really start playing well and getting good at the game. This game is good at that, it teaches you to let go, breaks you of that habit of getting mad at the smallest thing going wrong that most modern games have instilled in you. Not everything's going to go your way. Deal. The game ISN'T fair, the odds are stacked against you, and it's up to you to overcome them however you can, or quit and admit defeat.

>Also, The firelink shrine is RIGHT above londo, so if i fell it wouldn't be bottomless, I'd end up in londo dummy. Do you not understand physics either?
Explain iron keep faggot.

Awesome speech must greentext. Sup Forums forever in charge of being butthurt about things the rest of the world doesn't really care about

>it was obvious as fuck.
Except it was not, at all

> I'd end up in londo dummy
In which part? the huge abyss filled with water? that surely sounds safe

>Do you not understand physics either?
What about fall damage?, it seems you are the one without an ounce of understanding

Get rid of the Drake Sword, Woolie

Ecplain what?

What? its a +10 rapier, i dont use slash swords.
or magic see >What the fuck is a woolie and why does every thread ask this?

nice try, Darlington

bite me you jaded flump.

Are yo mad cos you used all those firebombs when you had fireball pyromancy equipped?

>You
What part of I dont USE magic did you not get? I'm a DEX build. That means NO heavy and NO magic plain and simple, I've stated this in multiple threads.

Well, to be fair it's a game where you go inside a fucking painting so why wouldn't you jump into a hole?

Wait so OP is now trying to say that his brain saw a bottomless hole and decided "There's a body of land somewhere below me so I should be fine if I jump in", instead of, "wow a bottomless hole, in almost any game I would avoid this, so I will now as well."?

In terms of stats, Pyromancy isn't considered magic. It scales off the level of your flame.

>Problem is i NEED this guy for titanite and extra souls
you get shit for selling stuff, killing the few skeletons at the graveyard gets you more souls then selling half your equipment
He also only reduces your shards to smaller ones which can easily be farmed

This is the game in which you climb up a tower to curl into a ball so a giant crow carries you back to an asylum you escaped from so you can collect a doll from your old cell that lets you go into a giant painting.

If you seriously live life shackjled by logic you're one sorry individual guy.

Again,.obvious. A place that was perfectly safe now has a giant hole, why wopuld a safe zone (Firelink shrine) sudeenly be a hostile area? Its common fucking sense that it was a faux hole. I can't fathom how you guys are so scared to jump into a hole in A VIDEO GAME. Its all about trial and error and exploring all your options

>Also, The firelink shrine is RIGHT above londo, so if i fell it wouldn't be bottomless, I'd end up in londo dummy. Do you not understand physics either?
You don't understand physics if you expect to survive a drop where you can't even see the ground before jumping

Yeah, but your brain doesn't tell you that without help, is the point I was making.

Dumbest thread I have seen so far in 2017.

Good job user.

>why did i die from jumping off the side of the cliff?! I'm in firelink. a-and a nice message told me there was treasure

well jumping in random holes can be dangerous, important npcs could disappear so I wouldn't recommend doing it

also
>firelink shrine
>safezone
did you miss the skeletons and the cliffside where you can easily fall to your death if you don't pay attention?

Firelink doesnt have any black bottomless pits, try harder guy. Its obvious you'd die falling into the clouds. But like i said, it leads to londo, or the elevator below, which is NOT bottomless.

PROTIP: You are supposed to look up stuff on the internet while playing souls games, you gay nerds. People who say they don't are liars or autists.

Fuck off Pat

Doesn't matter. The primordial serpents are mostly just annoying anyway. i always jump past the one in Firelink.

I liked DaS because i didn't feel like a new character was a HUGE chore, it was more like "yeah i can do most of that stuff leading up to this point without a problem, it'll be nice to get up here with more shit and less deaths due to what i've learned"

no game has made me felt like that in a longass time

>it leads to londo
it obviously doesn't, you just assumed so

Okay OP,
Thats enough, everyone knows you're falseflagging.
Take your hard earned (You)s and leave.

Wait what? You're baiting very hard or just have problem with linking some logical things

First, crestfallen guy tells you to hurr go ring the bells
After ringing bells he fucks out because giant snake snorls like bitch and he cant stand it
Next, that snake tells you to go for anal rodeo and get that sweet lordvessel
You get back. If he's not present, logical thing is 'maybe he's somewhere else" or when you hear snorling "maybe he felt asleep, gnna go back in some time like after catacombs"
In whole game you can safely jump to only one hole, and only with artorias ring equiped. Any other suspicious hole result in your death
Frampt gives shit amount of souls, he's completly useless. You can farm more souls just by killing random shit in the world or farming specific monsters for specific tytanite
You tried to jump into pich black hole
Frampt ned to be hit more than 3 times to get mad and fuck off.
Even if you fucked up, there's a second serpent that allows you to progress

>You tried to jump into pich black hole
Yes
>Frampt need to be hit more than 3 times to get mad and fuck off.
Never even hit him, he got mad, told me i was not chosen and fucked off, so you're wrong guy.
>Even if you fucked up, there's a second serpent that allows you to progress
Didn't show up in the abyss guy. You're wrong again.

Its impossible for Kathe to NOT show up after defeating 4 kings with lordvessel in inventory

how's the bait taste?

>responding to blatant idiocy and probable bait

its not in inventory, its placed on the fire altar

Have nothing to do at this time anyway

Now its 100% guaranted for her to show up

>absolutely no punishment long term because infinite NG+
>want to be hand held with absolutely no punishment for not thinking shit out before running in head first

You're right OP. Video games are much better when you're cradled and can do no wrong. +1

Care so little about the consequences of your choices that you will jump down a hole "just because".

Suddenly you really need to have every min max feature available to you.

You can't have it both ways.

>Tue
Then explain why i'm standing in the heart of the abyss, and there is no snek, just blackness and a bonfire

Dude, Thats great and all but what about those of us who DONT want to play more then opnce? I dont want to force myself to spend another week doing the same shit JUST to fix a damn mistake. If I ever play this shitp[ile again, it'll be 5 years from now when its fresh again.

propably you fucked up something without even knowing what the hella re you doing etc

I could recommend you to try again and restart game because now you knwo how to get lordvessel pretty fast and kill shi but
>week to get into that point
Even i, an absolute shitter, completed ds1 in 3 days and i can get to the 4kings part in some lazy hours upgrading only weapon

or, use cheat engine like 90% of people playing ds1 now and change flag for frampt to be spawned again

its ps3. And i dont cheat. I'm not cheating something just because the game itself is bad, it won't suddenly save it, nor am i that petty.

>he doesn't test if a hole is safe to fall down with the rainbow rocks

You deserved what you got.

So, the game punish you for mistakes, dumb actions and for being greedy (without good experience)

You've made a grave mistake and game punished you hard. if you cant access both serpents etc you're fucked

But wait. You said you placed lordvessel?
So, you can kill all lords?
And teleport to lordvessel, place all lord souls and open the kiln?

Thats not the point, the point is I have tons of useless weapons and shit I want to get rid of that could EASILY level me up like 10 times, and now i'm denyed that just because of a stupid glitch technicality. How the fuck was i suppsoed to know to talk to that gross thing, it looks like a damn enemy.

levels means nothing. If you managed to kill msot bosses, you're now able to kill everything. I killed Gwyn with 10lvl no shield and armor character and there's much more people killing him with fists on 3lvl ng7+

You already know he eats items, so you've spoiled or used a guide, which means you're extra retarded for not knowing the risks if you've already accessed resources that spoil the game

>Using a guide for what Frampt does
>Don't talk to Frampt
???

And I care why? I'm not trying to make the game harder for no reason.

So? Guides and maps are useful. Nothing says he'll disappear if i fell in a fucking hole.

so stop crying over this and go kill some darkwraiths or londo knights to get same amount of souls in five minutes

Post the best of DaS, the worst, and how would you improve it

Guy, do you fuckin read? Its the inventory space im after, not the soul count. I dont want 5 fucking hollow waistcloths, or 7 fucking basic cracked shields, that shit takes up unesseceary space and I want it GONE.

Delete, drop it or use stash lel

what stash?

He's nowhere near that yet.

Better question is what's the point of a sin system if it barely affects anything?

go to smith
buy some boxes
one of the boxes are metal boxes
that one choosen box is a stash
now you can sue stash while siting on campfire

Fucked up, first merchant in undead burg or Domhnall

>this thread

Wow, and how was I supposed to know THIS? Fuck this game. Okay fine, that solves the boxing issue.

... just buy things from merchants, read descriptions etc?

Read the correct guides then next time, you fucking fag. Not being able to make snaller titanite and getting souls from items is the dumbest thing to get mad about, there is also a well at firelink shrine which is a bottomless pit and doesn't let you safely land in londo, so shut up with your retard logic

You're already using guides about frampt, be quiet, you whiney bitch.

one weak hit doesn't aggro most npcs, idiot.

are you stupid?

>WOW.. WOOOOOW


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