Iorveth or Roche

Honestly Roche seems like a royal fuckup and I don't give a shit about his problems with Loredo. Who did you pick and why?

Roche, because he is a bro

Iorveth, I hung out with the Rose in 1 before going neutral so I wanted to change it up.

Turned out to be the right decision, Iorveth turns into a cool tsundere friend instead of a nothing character, Roche still stays your friend and you get to go to the Dorf city which is the best stage.

Roche path has the best scene in any video game ever made.

Roche: "I'm going to stuff Dethmold's balls down his fucking throat."

Player: "Haha, yeah, OK. Give me my generic stabbing him in the gut while some blood particles spray out cutscene and let's move on with it."

Roche: *actually stuffs Dethmold's balls down his throat*

Iorveth is the one who knows anything about Letho and can put you on the path to finding Triss.

Vergen is also a much better chapter.

>siding with elves

Do both

Roche because he isn't an elf

Go to bed Chris

This.

fpbp

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If you really like the game OP, you should do both.

The best and most natural way is to take Roche's path first, then make another playthrough and make Iorverth's.

Iorveth's path gives a lot of details and a couple of nice reveals that you don't get on Roche's path, but it's not as big and cool if you haven't done Roche's path first.

based roche

I beat all 3 Witchers games back-to-back and there was something strangely underwhelming about 2. I felt that it wasn't a memorable adventure.

flotsam i still one of my favourite video game setting for some reason.
the forest felt like a real fucking forest and i kept getting lost like a bitch even if it's not that big.

Same. 2 just doesn't feel that great to play. Going from the simplistic combat of 1 to the weird clunky mess of 2 was pretty jarring.

Also fuck not being able to use potions in combat. Made they near useless imo.

>dude is a towelhead
>is literally named roach

man, the devs did not give a fuck

At the point you are at when you have to make the decision, your choices are literally likeable bro that's got your back and fights for justice and a preachy cunt who has spent most of the game up until that point firing arrows at you.

I don't care if you enjoy helping Saskia more or find the town more "comfy" after the fact - you have no way of knowing that beforehand and no compelling reason to side with Iorveth over Roche.

Alchemy was absolutely useless in 2 and especially if it's your first time playing the game due to timers running out during dialogue.
Even during a replay you need to know what you're fighting in advance for every fight since you can't drink in combat.
3's system is an improvement but I wish they kept things the way they were in 1 where potions actually had some importance AND were viable.

Roche because hes had a boat and was ready to go. I didn't want to fight with Iorveth and a bunch more squirrels to get out of Flotsam when I could just leave.

Iorveth's quest line is objectively better.

I didn't see any reason not to side with Roche after he helped you out from the start.

I'm gonna play devil's advocate and say it might have been intentional. Like said, Iorveth's path is 10 times better if you did Roche's path first

Roche's PL voice reminds me a lot of Robin Atkin Downes' voice.

>get the witcher 2
>game runs like garbage even on a 4000$ PC

wish the game had better optimization. i'm enjoying the witcher 3 btw

It depends on what you think Geralt cares about more. Roche is willing to help him clear his name, but his friends are going with Iorveth. Also Im pretty sure Triss had been kidnapped at that point and Roche didn't give a fuck about finding her.

No clue what you're talking about, I was at 120fps most of the time on a R9 390.

I love that Henselt is so damn sure that you won't hurt him just because he's a royal. And then you let Roche do what he wants.

It bothered me that Ves didn't show up again afterwards though. She should've gotten in on the regicide.

>Even during a replay you need to know what you're fighting in advance

When I played it on release this is the part that pissed me off the most, especially against the kayran because you drop down onto a platform and the fight automatically starts when the last time you visit the area you are able to walk all the way down into the water. Biggest fucking cockblock to players. And yeah timers running during dialogue was just fucking stupid.

On top of all that the inventory management is fucking atrocious. Very little clarity.

Roche still fucks Triss between Witcher 2 and 3 though.
But then again Triss is literally a slut.

Iorveth's path is more interesting and fun to play through. That's about it. Roche as a character is superior in every way.

>On top of all that the inventory management is fucking atrocious. Very little clarity.
God I can't count how many fucking times I dropped my boots by accident.

Turn off ubersampling bro.

I told you about that ubersampling.

This whole thread will say Roche but they're wrong because

1. In the Iorveth route you actually achieve something. You build a city and present hope for an oppressed group of people, the ones who originally owned the world humans stole from them.

2. In the Roche path literally everything goes to shit. You tear down their city and then betray the army that you worked with, then even the Blue Stripes die. Literally everyone dies, everything's fucked and nothing is achieved.

3. You can be friends with Broche in either route but he's far happier in Iorveths route since his entire squad doesn't get killed and Ves doesn't get raped.

4- You fuck some elves and a succubus vs just some whores and Ves.

5- You can save Saskia.

Iorveth is by far the better route Not getting to fuck Saskia blows though

On Iorverth's path, you get to fuck a succubus.

Iorveth may be the better route but you have no way of knowing that when you first play the game.

Why did Geralt name his horse after Roche? That's pretty fucked up?

Making potions was a fucking mess also.

>"Oh I know let's lump every single alchemy recipe into one long ass menu"

What the fuck were they thinking? How anyone can say 2 isn't the worst of the series is high as fuck.

It's also a mare...

I just really liked Letho and how you can (and should) spare him at the end.

The games really aren't that contiguous though. W1 you're fighting the King of the Wild Hunt at the end and he's basically just death.

W2 clarifies the Wild Hunt and has Geralt walk off with Triss to go find Yen who's lost her memory like he did (also, he says that the North will Unite like never before).

W3 Yen has her memory back? And is fine? And the North didn't unite and why was Geralt with Vessemir rather than Triss anyhow?

Also, funny how Triss never mentions Alvin again...

Yeah, I feel like I should still give the game a replay for the other path, but I haven't had the motivation, and people tell me Roche has a bit more presence in Witcher 3 than Iorveth.

>This whole thread will say Roche but they're wrong

You have no idea what would happen with either path until you play it out. The only thing that guides the player is the interaction with either of the characters. Roche was bro as fuck with you and Iorveth was a retarded elf faggot. Anyone that went with the elf faggot on their first run is a faggot, simple as that.

"A bit more" is an understatement. Roche has a questline while Iorveth doesn't even appear in the game.

sigh

im done with you casuals

Which sucks since 2 is definitely how they should be.

3 does it the best and with potions, oils and bombs you feel like a real Witcher but 2 doing prep before a battle was how the system should have worked.

Grapeshot carried me through 2 so hard though.

No, 1 is the way it should be: you brew potions and make oils in advance, and then you pop 'em whenever you need them.

>Grapeshot carried me through 2 so hard though.

Pfft, more like setting 20 snares in one spot before starting a boss fight, one-shotting the boss then picking all the snares back up. Was so much easier to fight the stupid fucking endrega queen and other bullshit bosses since combat in 2 is just a mess. Even the signs were all garbage. Range of about 0.5 meters and did fuck all.

That's because Iorveth is dead

That's not how Witchers work though. And that's the same as 3 anyway, except they autorefill in 3

I think 2 is more faithful to the lore, but it sucked for gameplay.

Yen tries to seduce your friends and turn them against each other

It's not the same as 3 because in 3 you only need to "properly" make potions once.
Then you miraculously get an endless supply of bombs and oils because you have bottles of alcohol on you.
Also this

Also, Dandelion is suddenly an old man like 6 months later in W3. That was odd.

One thing that I didn't get, and it's some base level stuff, is that Geralt claims that no Witcher has ever lived long but is nearly a hundred years old himself. What gives?

Agreed. The inventory is clunky and a chore to manage. Makes it uninteresting to play. A game like this shouldn't really have carry weight either, in my opinion. I also hate how there's a lot of shit in this game where you think "how was I supposed to know some bullshit like that would happen?"

The Kayran fight is one of the most poorly designed boss fights I've played in a long time. Plus that one fight at the end of Chapter 1 where you have to fight like 12 guys in those TIGHT ass corridors in that one dude's house. You have to cheese it so hard to win.

And yeah, having to "know" to drink potions before something happens is retarded. Plus, everytime you die you fucking have to wait 5 hours for it to fade to show the continue screen. You can solve this by spamming the Enter key, but it's still retarded.

The worst of all is during that memory flashback sequence with the assassin. I couldn't figure out why I kept being pulled out of the memory, and it turns out it's because I kept stepping on the snares. I had to look it up because I had no fucking idea what was going on. First of all, the scene is black and white, so they're even harder to see. And second, if you even put one pixel of your foot inside the hitbox of the snare, it pulls you out of the memory. What in the fuck were they thinking with that part? God awful.

this post is truth

>he says that the North will Unite like never before

Yeah he says this but doesn't the ending cutscene sort of nullify anything that happened or what was said at the end? I mean they show Nilfgaard come in and pretty much shit stomp everything and they make it a point to really emphasize that fact. I may be mistaken, it's been a while since I played but I remember the ending to be a catchall for all the different paths you take and show how futile everything was.

t. triss apologist

he says no witcher ever died in his bed which is mostly just a way of speaking and probably not true.

also vesemir is probably around 300 years old and he doesn't die in his bed

Yeah I remember this line, but I'm thinking of another one he says, if I remember correctly, to Triss when they're considering giving up on their adventurous life and settling down, and Geralt says making a family would never work because witchers die early.

>The worst of all is during that memory flashback sequence with the assassin. I couldn't figure out why I kept being pulled out of the memory, and it turns out it's because I kept stepping on the snares.

Holy fuck I am replaying the game now. Just finished Chapter 1 and I remembered I have to do this bullshit again. Jesus that section pissed me off so much because I had NO IDEA what was going on. The damn snares blended into the ground texture, so stupid.

God Witcher 2 is a chore to play. Playing through the trilogy to get the full experience because I never did the DLC in 3 but W1 was a joy to replay (especially Act IV) but once I booted up W2 and got into combat I realized why it's shit. Died so much to the stupid fucking endrega queens because of their seemingly invisible 20 feet attack ranges.

Just trying to force myself through so I can get to the maximum comfy of W3.

this, flotsam was the shit. The atmosfere was superb.

>The worst of all is during that memory flashback sequence with the assassin. I couldn't figure out why I kept being pulled out of the memory, and it turns out it's because I kept stepping on the snares.
Worst of this bullshit is that, unlike ye olde game over that takes a short loading screen to send you back, you have to go through a fade out, dialogue, and fade back in. Horribly frustrating stuff.

just play the game twice.

First time I picked Roche. 2nd play though, pick Iorveth.

This. It's also the more logical decision for Geralt to take since Roche's travel plans are delayed unlike Ioverth's. You can still have moments with Broche without having to take his path. Just because you don't agree with the Squirrels doesn't mean you can't have a temporary alliance with them for a common goal, Witcher 2 even allows you to acknowledge that fact by giving you plentiful dialog choices to WHY you chose Ioverth.

You're actually given plentiful reasons to pick Ioverth over Roche. For one Roche doesn't really give a fuck about finding Triss, he also forces you to go by his schedule and forces you to get in more political drama. Ioverth on the other hand is simply willing to give you a ride in exchange for freeing him, whether you want to fully be part of his adventure or ditch him to find Triss is completely up to you.

>For one Roche doesn't really give a fuck about finding Triss
But I didn't either user.
Did you?
But why?

Prep before battle is cool in theory, but it's annoying for gameplay. There were so many times when I entered a situation by surprise and obviously couldn't drink potions because it was too late. Then you die and know to drink potions now. Really cheapened everything.

And Witcher 2 had god awful wait times with shit. Takes Geralt like 5000 years to drink potions in that game.

>drinks potion
>throws bottle
>sits there
>...
>...
>wipes his brow
>...
>finally stands up

I hate when devs make you wait for no fucking reason.

>For one Roche doesn't really give a fuck about finding Triss

Neither did I. Saw through her manipulative ways since W1.

Fuck that bitch, gimme Yen back.

he would either wipe his brows or stretch his neck, and i would always stretch my neck when he did it, couldn't help myself, like yawning or some shit.

>>drinks potion
>>throws bottle
>>sits there
>>...
>>...
>>wipes his brow
>>...
>>finally stands up
>Meanwhile the timer for the potion ticks down second by second during this long ass animation
>Better hope you don't have to make more potions/bombs, just more time ticking away

What the fuck were they thinking during this design phase?

Maybe even Geralt understood how much of a fucking chore the game he's in is.

>playing the meta game in a RPG

What's the point? If you're going to metagame it then Roche's path is still objectively the worst and least fun of them gameplay-wise. Doesn't change the fact that Geralt's end goal during the game is finding Triss. You as the player might not give a fuck but it's definitely at the back of Geralt's mind.

>Doesn't change the fact that Geralt's end goal during the game is finding Triss
but it's not

>Just trying to force myself through so I can get to the maximum comfy of W3.

Same. Beat W1 last year, and now I'm almost done W2. Really looking forward to the promised land of W3.

W2 is a decent game, but it has so many little shit annoyances.

>You as the player might not give a fuck but it's definitely at the back of Geralt's mind

But at this point Geralt knows Triss had been lying to him this entire time and taking advantage of his memory loss. She fills him in on EVERYTHING when they are on the boat. He learns about Yen, Ciri, etc. By that point it would've been clear Triss was just an opportunist and would be able to take care of herself anyway.

>W2 is a decent game, but it has so many little shit annoyances.

The sad part is the first time I played it I remember having a blast. Replaying it just so I can get through it again to play W3 has been quite the arduous experience. Everything just takes FOREVER to load or transition. Open a door? Maybe a load screen. New area? Load screen. So fucking tedious to play this shit when you are just trying to semi rush it.

But it is, whether you agree or not the one unchangeable fact about every W2 playthrough ever is that Geralt is trying to find Triss. It's the one conclusion of the game that you can't alter with, you find her sooner or later. If Geralt really didn't give a fuck about Triss then the events of Witcher 2 would've potentially never happened since Geralt giving a fuck about Letho is completely player input.

>implying Geralt would've left Triss to die over taking advantage of his amnesia

You're self-inserting yourself into Geralt, if any of this was true then you'd be given the player input to simply not give a fuck about Triss, but you aren't.

Read the first 3 books and I kinda hate the elves.

He's actually not dead, but there are floating rumors among the citizens in W3 that he is dead.

of course he's not going to let triss get kidnapped and do nothing about it, but the ultimate goal is to find who killed foltest and clear his name.

yeah, there are rumors in witcher 3 that he's dead, but the devs said he isn't, sadly.

>W3 Yen has her memory back? And is fine?
Just like Geralt eventually got his memory back, which is why things went sour quick with Triss. As for the North uniting, it kind of did from a certain point of view. More in the sense that Radovid backstabbed everyone and absorbed their territory and manpower while their armies were holding the front lines.

Old man Dandelion only just narrates the loading screens, Dandelion in game is still young.

>Old man Dandelion only just narrates the loading screens

God I feel retarded. I never beat the game, working on playing it again but I always thought it was Vesemir, but after Kaer Morhen I guess that makes sense it's not him ;_;

>cast quen
>roll around
>backstab
>ezpz

You have to do backstabs if you don't want the combat to become a chore. Otherwise, the combat takes way too long.

She couldn't walk properly.

>roll around
That's the tedious part. Sometimes the enemies just stick to you like glue and pivot on a dime whenever you try to get to their backside. It's fucking annoying.

>actually had some importance AND were viable
That was only in the hardest difficulty.

Entire combat system is tedious af. At first, it is difficult to get the hang of. Once you do figure it out, which in itself is a tedious process because the combat system is just not good to begin with, the game becomes way too repetitive.

That's why my advice is always go for backstabs because they deal massive amount of damage especially if you combine it with a power swing and you can get back to what is most enjoyable about the game.

At least The Witcher 3 managed to make the combat a bit better. It has a flow unlike 2.

I picked Djikstra in 3
Fuck him for throwing Temeria under the bus, claims to be fighting for it's freedom but let's it become a toothless vassal state, no respect for guys like him

Ioeveth's path is better.
Roche is more fun to hang out with.

>that whole Djikstra path ending