Hey Sup Forums, suggest me a good MMORPG to play

Hey Sup Forums, suggest me a good MMORPG to play.

I want something not too easy, with a good player base, where I don't risk someone stealing my drops on a daily basis, possibly able to take bosses on solo and nothing with over 30 skills. No futuristic content.

This is what I heard on the internet till now:

Aion
Don't know too much about this one. Is it any good?

Black desert Online
Best graphics, grind related, seems good. What do I miss if I pay 9.99€ instead of the 49.99€ for the gold account?

Blade and Soul
Heavily focused on 1vs1 pvp, pve sucks, full of bots. No guild wars system. Seems bad.

Guild Wars 2
Far too easy, bad end game, possibly the biggest player base. Again, what do I miss if I don't buy the Heart of Thorns expansion?

Tera
Good pvp, bad pve. Don't know much about this one either.

So, what should I choose? I want to focus on one game.

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I can't really tell you about most of them save Guild Wars. I will say though that HoT is almost mandatory with how ridiculously balanced the elite specializations are. Sidegrades, my ass- unless you're playing engineer you're going to want your elite spec.

Bump.

Tera has bad pvp (its pretty much non existant thats why its bad) and good pve but alot of grinding. It's korean after all.

1.12 wow

The least p2w are GW2 or Tera out of those games.

play something like gw1, ffxi, eq, swg, ao, uo, etc.

why would you play any of this modern chinese garbage

Blade and soul is pretty fun for awhile

Recommend ffxiv

Tried all of those and liked Tera the most. Dont play anymore though.

I don't care too much for p2w if I can buy shopped items from those players with in game money.
A lot of people has suggested me GW2 now, but I heard it's too easy. Is it true?
I don't want a game where everyone is at the same level.

BDO, the only thing you miss out is shit you can grind anyway. It's probably the best choice with what you described.

If you just don't want to pay yeah reccomend Tera/BnS

Aion is basically dead. People got tired of hackers, bots, legion dramas and people being elitist. I know a lot of people who sold their accounts already

The only MMOs worth playing are FFXIV and EVE online.

>What do I miss if I pay 9.99€ instead of the 49.99€ for the gold account?
Extra p2w shit. Thats all. that said BDO is the most trash even though the combat is the most fun.

If you never played GW1 I guess you would be ok with GW2. Since it pales in comparison to the first GW

>what do I miss if I don't buy the Heart of Thorns expansion?
The "real" endgame, meaning high level dungeons, raids and pvp.

They certainly are better than this old mmo garbage that no one besides you plays

>A lot of people has suggested me GW2 now, but I heard it's too easy. Is it true?

It's casual as fuck unless you want to get into fractal raiding. You can basically achieve everything in the game in two weeks if you treat it like a regular MMORPG.

but all the old games are the ones with an actual solid population and not the population merry-go-round all this freemium chink shit sees.

that was a really weak and badly thought out attempt at a comeback and i actually feel fucking embarrassed for you.

just say you want to eat shit, if you want to eat shit.

Also, I should add that by high level dungeons, I didn't mean max level dungeons because there are already plenty of dungeons to run at level 80 but HoT introduced the mastery system which is mandatory to progress in Fractals (dungeon that gets harder which each run until 100)

>Tera
>alot of grinding

Nigga what? You can hit max level in less than a month playing 1-2 hours every day.

It doesnt exist

>max level
The grinding thats there nigger.

>i want an mmo
>i also want to play it alone, avoid all parties and kill all bosses by myself
>but it has to have a good community which i wont communicate with anyways

The game begins at max level though.spamming the same dungeons over and over again for mats for endgame gear for months and months

We already responded you, paperel.

good taste
regularly come back to AO und EQ

you can get to max level fast enough, but have you ever heard of end game content? that's where most of the fun is, tha'ts where the grinding is

blade and soul is actually pretty good if you actually play it, play a melee character and not a caster and you'll have the time of your life. My only complaint is end game gets grindy.

Some people just like seeing other people around them, talking and interacting. I will never understand it. I imagine they play and enjoy TOR.

TERA was fun to level through, and if you're good enough you can solo most world bosses. End game got boring though.

Sup bro
Gomen in advance for broken INGLES.

I think ive played most of the mmos out there,
they all have their cons and pros and i could make huge list about the flaws and beautys on each but fuck that.

all i wanna talk bout my fav MMO, FFXIV.
i know alot of ppl hate this game but to me is so godly, the graphics, mainquest, the side quest, even fucking grinding can be trilling.
It has it flaws like everything, but is a really solid, strong game, imo.

if i was you id give it a try, worth it.
theres also a free trial if u wanna like "try" it out.

>Nigga what? You can hit max level in less than a month playing 1-2 hours every day.
You can hit max level in less than a day doing this.

The PVP was fun when it was alive though.

I like the 5vs5 pvp but I prefer to solo in pve. Not so hard to understand.
Of course I don't want to being able to solo EVERY boss of the game. That would mean every boss is a piece of cake.

Or


I want a good community = lots of people who will pay for the server to stop it from shutting down

I know, but it's slow as fuck there.
Also, I wanted a second opinion.

Tera has a nice combat system but I'd say it's not pvp focused. Battlegrounds have long queue times and the korean developer is turning the game more towards pve. It has easy fast levelling and endgame is very streamlined towards doing your dailies and improving your gear. There's no side content like player housing, fishing or in-depth crafting.

I think BDO can be a fun experience if you don't go for min/maxing. If you want to be top 5 then expect to grind mobs all day, deal with the insane RNG enchanting to get +20 gear and maybe p2w to stay competitive in pvp. It's supposed to be pvp-focused so at a high level, you can be killed by other players while farming mobs. The grind is there for no-lifers but it also has side content like fishing, cooking, farming.

MMOs are dead.
survival sandbox fantasy games are the future

youtube.com/watch?v=VwY4UgujZ2k

BDO is fine, problem is all you hear online is precisely that minority you mentioned that loses sleep over optimization and theory crafting.

>survival sandbox fantasy is the future of mmos
>isekai is the future of animu
kill me

>good MMORPG
why are you doing this?

WoW and FF are your best bet, the rest is fucking dogshit, while these two are mediocre at best. Your best option still remains, that you don't waste time on any of these.

I want to play FFXIV but I hear you have to go through a long solo main quest just to get to the endgame content, is it true?

>Battlegrounds have long queue times
because it's 5 years old. It was only recently that PVP completely died.

Dark and Light looks like it will be decent if managed right, Moonlight Blade looks good too

Dragon's Dogma Online or Phantasy Star Online 2 come to mind.
Simple action RPGs with a very tightly knit playerbase due to both of those being foreign.

Tera is a good mmorpg, the leveling is boring as fuck due to kill count quests but the endgame dungeons are great fun. The combat for pve and pvp are awesome as fuck, best in the genre.

The key with Tera is to not try to get to cap asap because the nature of the quests can sour you to the game before you get to the good stuff, break it up with battlegrounds for XP and exploring etc.

I got 2 years out of Tera and enjoyed it a lot.

It's also completely free and with a very good company behind it.

Black Desert is a solo, casual mmorpg. It's good as a secondary mmo.

I didn't like B&S at all, GW2 was great for a while but I hated the combat.

I was going to suggest ffxiv but honestly it's has a horrible company behind it and it's incredibly expensive.

Yeah they make it boring on purpose because they are planning to sell story skip shit LOL

Vindictus next month, they are stopping with the country restriction shit so everyone is playing on one server and the combat is actually good aswell as the music as long as you enjoy celtic/Irish music

youtube.com/watch?v=q-wPz87rvqA

That would be me.

ESO is great so long as you ignore the End-Game-Leaderboad Raiding community. The grinding required for it (max champion points) is a sky you can live without touching.

Other then that consider Runescape and OSRS. The grind can be brutal and midgame inexcusable but with a few buddies its not so bad. It has player-owned housing, guild housing and raids too. Pvp is also not very good because after all these years since EOC range is still the best

Best wishes op

Tree of Savior

Only problem with vindictus is it has no open world. It's a lobby with dungeons, kind of like PSO.

Most MMOs in general are so similar these days it honestly doesn't matter what you play. Just pick any of the free to play MMOs, play it for a month or two to remember why you needed make a thread trying to find a good MMO, and quit.

Unless you have friends who are playing a specific game, then just join them. You'll have the most fun that way, regardless of the game.

If you don't mind spending some money just buy a level 60 scroll on the cash shop and skip 95% of the leveling process.

>good
>mmo

Twin Saga is one of the few MMOs where you can do almost the entire game solo.
>Swordmaster towards end-game is a hybrid DPS/Tank and in solo instances, you have enough heal supplies on-hand to mitigate all undodgeable damage as long as you move out of the telegraphed shit
>Is the 2nd worst class for party play after Hunter
>Hunter is just total dumpster and only used for their shared Skills
>Most everything else is viable
>A single character can play as any class
>Past level 60, you can power-level any class up (Player Level and Class Level are separate)

This or kill yourself. Nothing comes close.

ESO is good but the point system is confusing and it's easy to fuck your character up to the point you can't solo the dungeons.

It's one of those games that give you too much freedom, to the point it loses a ton of players.

I loved the game but had to quit because I simply couldn't figure out a good build and kept getting owned in dungeons. Got sick of restarting and lost interest on the 3rd character.

How is Albion Online?

I used to love Aion but I haven't played it in a few years, you should be able to get to max level in no time nowadays, although it may take some time to catch up with other players when it comes to gear. I don't think you'll be able to find people for low level dungeons at this point though, the game wasn't that populated anymore by the time I stopped playing.

Clerics and Spiritmasters used to be god tier at soloing dungeons and bosses, sorcerers could take on minor bosses and named mobs quite fast, all of these are pretty good for farming and making money off drops.

WARNING, the European servers are hosted by a money grubbing company called Gameforge, they made a ton of restrictions to free to play players and you will not be able to enjoy the game unless you can afford to get a "Gold Pack" every month, you can get them with ingame money, but they are expensive as fuck.

To be honest, I think it may already be too late to get into this one, but I had a really nice time with this game and the people I met there, fuck the enchanting rates though.

I still like to listen to it's OST from time to time.
Chanters a best.

Yeah sure. Lemme just play an older version of an already shitty point and click game.

Fuck off with your wow nostalgia, it was never good.

Yeah but that's what I like about it, it has cities and stuff which people do hang around in but you never get much enjoyment running for long periods of time just to reach a area that you could just teleport to then afterwards. It has hub areas where people interact instead of spreading them out in a open world where nothing will happen aside from the average person running by you saying nothing.

That's honestly surprising to me. The Skill Point System can leave to a lot of experimentation and maybe a few gimmicks for PvP. I only find myself agreeing with you on the Champion Point System because all those numbers may or may not make an overall difference on your build (mitigating returns in the 30's until you invest 50 points or whatever). But honestly most sets and builds for PvE are very set in stone. Much like the meta in an Armored Core game it's a much better decision to simply ask a veteran for advice like what I did in my case in joining leaderboarding end-game raid guild.

Once again, as a healer I've seen some such builds in dugeons but we clear it anyway, dont expect to clear hard mode is all

>the point system is confusing
It's pretty straight forward. Magicka for mages, Stamina for warriors. Don't combo them, because it doesn't work out well. I'm having fun as a dual-wielding battlemage.

SWTOR is great until you run out of content

>Don't combo them, because it doesn't work out well
>I'm having fun as a dual-wielding battlemage
>battlemage
???

Is there a site that tells you the best builds for each class?

I'd go back to the game in a heartbeat if I didn't have to mess around with the point skilltree system. I play these games mainly for the combat, story and exploration. I hate worrying about builds, especially given how important they are to doing the leveling dungeons.

Everyone is like "ESO is so solo friendly, you can solo all the leveling dungeons" they don't tell you that you need near perfect builds or you get wrecked over and over.

Lightning Mages always dual wield senpai. The dual wield passive is an overall dps increase. Even Healers Dual Wield (most of their heals will come from passives from attacking). It's ironic a magic user uses physical weapons but the dual wield passives are worth it if you're trying for PvE Leaderboards. That being said, despite being a dual wielder. All your points better go in fucking Magicka. And if you're healer isn't shit, then ignore Health.

You have two options

1: the ESO wikia is nice, just check the date and make sure it says 2017. It has a specific page for end-gane builds.
Solo que dungeons you can solo with the shittiest build, you are likely suffering from gear. If you mean group instance dungeons then your next option is to ask for advice in a decent guild.
And don't do the solo instance Raid. On the Xbone is has terrible performance and I've seen men reduced to shells over it. There are PvP Builds, PvE Builds, and Builds just for that solo Raid

This is about all I got that's sort of popular right now. Tera bored me pretty bad and I haven't tried Blade and Soul. Fuck wow unless it goes f2p (unlikely) and and Final Fantasy is decent but not worth $15 a month.

Black Desert for fun combat that is a fake sandbox. However has the least player interaction I've ever seen in an mmo, professions are designed around afking while you are at work, and is literal rng grinding once you hit the soft cap. Combat is pretty damn fun though and it looks pretty, downside is there's like 5 different looks to gear over your entire game experience so everyone looks the same unless you cash shop. Pvp is literally about gear and level and has very little to do with skill. I enjoyed the game until I got 2 characters to the soft cap though.

GW2 is good if you want a noob friendly and pretty mess that has been casualized to death. They yanked out the trinity but didn't replace it with shit. You can barely customize your characters skills, and the talents suck. Don't play if you played GW1, it's just painful how much they raped it.

Elder Scrolls Online for an extremely solid themepark mmo. Just depends on how bored you are with them, also the main plot is shitty "YOU are the special snowflake" and ignores the other players. On the plus side everything now levels to your character so you can play with friends easier and and go where you please. On the minus side it now feels like there's little progression. Probably your best bet.

The Secret World for 10/10 setting and questing. Combat is shit and it's pretty dead although that fits the setting, just sucks if you want to run an instance. Also the skill wheel seems great but everything feels extremely samey. Unfortunately it's pretty dead, but everything except dungeons can be solo'd

>Fuck wow unless it goes f2p (unlikely)

you can pay for a sub with gold. You only have to pay for the first month really. That said, still not really worth playing.

Nah if I play wow again it will be casually taking my time exploring and dinking around in the low/mid levels. This really feels like a waste of money/time though if you have to think about sub fees.

I'm kinda sick of the whole rush rush rush to endgame mentality anymore.

Same I had to quit ESO just to get it out my head. When I come back all I'll be doing are Dungeons as far as endgame is concerned. Everything else is great

I could do endgame raids but I couldn't participate in any Leaderboard raids but I didn't yet max my champion points

MMOs are dead nobody cares about them. Open world RPGs are the future, they sale millions.

I couldn't get into ESO much. The lore and setting just really don't interest me since I never really worshiped at the TES altar. Without that it's just too generically fantasy.

Probably the best themepark though, as long as you aren't sick of those.

>>battlemage
Certain abilities can be upgraded to scale off of Stamina instead of Magicka
Which is retarded, but fun.

Is anyone here interested in Crowfall?
It looks amazing

TES:O
Not even kidding

I am, I really want to give it a shot when it comes out

>Crowfall is an upcoming massively multiplayer online role-playing game developed by ArtCraft, described as a "Throne War Simulator". The game aims to be a fusion of action MMORPGs and real-time strategy games.

no hype muh niggas?

High aspirations, but just like anything that aims too high, it won't get very far.

So, MMO Sacrifice?

read up on it. It seems pretty fleshed out, no p2w.

Concepts =/= final product
It's been exemplified time and time again.

vindictus would be massively improved if they cut out 80% of time you have to spend killing trash enemies and made it primarily a boss fight game.

I try not to get hyped for mmos anymore, it always leads to disappointment. They either aim too high and fall flat, do the bare minimum and assume a gear treadmill is all anyone wants, have a really jewish cash shop setup, or really really want those monthly fees without having to make content updates to justify them.

Kinda want to try Revelation Online. It's korean so endgame will be ass, but it still looks like it might be fun.

I am growing to prefer that style of game. Just cuts out a lot of the bullshit and copy pasted worlds that are big boring and empty.

Haven't tried Vindictus though because by all accounts the gearing system is pretty bad later on.

Elder Scrolls Online is $10 with no subscription fee, great deal if you dont want to deal with the typical jewish bullshit of free2play games

It has quests that rival singleplayer games (very very few quests are fetch quests), above-average action combat for an MMO, an absolutely massive world, interesting large-scale PvP, and you can level up in whatever zone you want to

Last I played of TERA it burned up my CPU, upon researching found the UI was made in flash.

Tempting, I stopped playing GW2 for a bit and I could play something else until I get the urge to come back.

Where's that 10€ deal?

Newegg with code EMCRBBC25, dont know if its valid in Yurop

If it's anything like Skyrim, I'll pass. Dropped it because of the stupid AI.

XIV is probably the best right now, especially since if you do play you'll end up finishing up everything just in time for the next expansion to release for it.

DDO is also fun for a while

No no no user, you got it all wrong. You ONLY two choices are WoW or FFXIV, everything else is already dead or not worth your time.

>interesting large-scale PvP
This is probably the best part of the game.
>Ebonheart Pact
>Defending fort from Dominion forces
>Support trebuchets while others try to rebuild the wall
>Wall collapses, warriors pour in, mages stay back
>Drop Antimagic Field on healers
>Beyblade my way through the backline
>Eventually die but we keep the fort
>feelsgoodman

>Newegg
Ah, RIP

Well it's an mmo, so you won't really find any that have smart ai. However combat is a lot more satisfying than Skyrim, not like that takes much though.

DDO you have to rely on fan translation and proxy don't you?

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Switch it to yurop money. Not as cheap, but it's something.

Blade and Soul is very excellent.

The pve and pvp are very good. The game takes a bit more engagement than other mmos and that has kept me interested for years, compared to other mmos where you just hit 5 buttons and win.

WoW is still the only good MMORPG om the market