>High base price for what the console is >Paid online >3 hours of battery life when playing an actual game >$70 to get a real controller >Need to use a smartphone app to use voice chat >Only huge launch game is also on the Wii U >Absolutely no mention of the Virtual Console
Is it gonna happen? Is the Switch gonna bomb as hard as the Wii U did?
>Need to use a smartphone app to use voice chat Explain this part?
Jordan Ross
>thw Wii U bombed maymay Sup Forums is not the real world you fucking cukc
Christian Barnes
B-but it's got super rumble features like can you imagine holding a glass with ice cubes?
Caleb Hill
What about the Wii U wasn't a major bomb? Nintendo is killing it after a little more than four years, the software lineup has been terribly small for the entire life of the console and it only sold a little over 13 million units
William Ramirez
>13 million people on this planet bought a WiiU + hardware and multiple games each >LOL WHAT A FLOP 0/10 kys sonygger
>monthly game download >it's only NES or SNES shit
Do they really think this is equivalent to PS+ or Xbox Live?
Liam Jackson
It's not looking good that's for sure
Asher Morris
You wanna know what's worse? The game goes away after that month, it's a renter
Robert Johnson
Those numbers are pretty much the definition of a flop.
Luis Nguyen
Fuck Jewtendo
Bentley Nelson
>Sup Forums decides what's a flop TOP KEK
Caleb Sanders
They're dead last, and the next lowest like has over 20 million consoles sold
It flopped man, you gotta come to terms with it
Andrew Clark
Any news on how are rabid Nintendon't fanboys (e.g. Moviebob) taking this?
Jaxon Nguyen
God I want to know this too. Even some of the diehards here are disappointed
Anthony Nelson
Wow that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. >a limited free version PAY FOR VOICE CHAT. HOW STUPID IS NINTENDO????
Luis Ramirez
What the shit
Jordan Stewart
>Only huge launch game is also on the Wii U The only other time a Zelda game has been a launch title was with Twilight Princess, which was also on the Gamecube. Remember what a flop the Wii was?
The Switch has more in common with the Wii than with the Wii U. The Wii U bombed because of poor, confusing marketing, and it didn't really do much interesting. It also didn't have many games that appealed to general consumers. The Switch is launching with a Zelda game and a dumb gimmicky mini-game compilation reminiscent of Wii sports. I don't think the Switch is going to push 100 million units like the Wii, maybe half that if it's lucky, but it's not going to fail, as much as the sonyggers seem to want it to.
Asher Sanders
Yes, yes it will.
One of the reasons why Nintendo is retarded as a business is they're one of the few companies that don't "loss lead" with their consoles. Sony and Microsoft lose money when they sell their consoles, but make up the difference through selling overpriced accessories and getting those consumers into their ecosystem. Nintendo tries to have it's cake and eat it too by trying to make a profit on their console sales like with the Wii and Wii U and still overcharging for what many would consider necessary accessories. The Switch should have been at most $250, and if they could've gotten the price down to $200 just about everyone with a passing interest in it would consider buying one and the sales of all their games would likely have doubled. Not only that, but if the Switch doesn't penetrate the market Nintendo can say good-bye to third party developers forever because they'd rather make games for the more graphically impressive competition with tens of millions of consoles in the market than for number the Switch manages to get.
Hardware-wise, it's a total shit show. There's no way this thing can be competitive in an environment where the PS4 Pro and Xbox Scorpio exist as ever so slightly more expensive alternatives. Unless the Switch is running on black magic, this thing won't be very graphically impressive and developers aren't going to just even consider it because it'd be a choice between the combined market for both Xbox and PS4 systems versus the Switch's which even the best case scenario will be much smaller for the foreseeable future.
I literally don't know what Nintendo was thinking. Having a Tegra X1 chip inside the console that detaches for mobile gaming sounds like a good idea and a way to bring over their Game Boy audience, who have already been burned by the introduction of the New 3DS, but they should've paired it with an actual graphics chip and processor when docked.
This thing is going to flop, hard.
Jose Gray
>High base price for what the console is Meh, it'll still be the cheapest console by years end.
>Paid online While I'm bummed, I don't see Sony/Xbone players trying to figure out how to pirate PSN/Xbox Live for free.
>3 hours of battery life when playing an actual game I have a 3DS for playing outside. I'll take it off the charger when I take a shit or I'm wanting to play some Puyo Puyo while watching the news/letting the wife watch some TV
>$70 to get a real controller How bout that Xbox Elite Controller? In all seriousness, though, I get that it's shitty to have to buy a Pro Controller seperatly, but you know Hori is going to make a manhands adaptor for $30.
>Need to use a smartphone app to use voice chat What should worry you about this is that Nintendo is getting real comfortable relying on smartphones for stuff.
>Only huge launch game is also on the Wii U So? No one has a Wii U
>Absolutely no mention of the Virtual Console >What is contract renewal?
Owen Torres
They have to at least make the wii u pro controllIer compatible right?
Christian Myers
>Remember what a flop the Wii was? The Wii was freak instance of getting people that never buy or even play games to get a game system (and who promptly left the market after the Wii). I don't see that happening again with the Switch
Luis Cook
I don't think they would just let you use the other controller when they priced the new one at $70?
Unlikely.
Dylan Lee
>They have to at least make the wii u pro controllIer compatible right?
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Aiden Diaz
I can't literally see no extra feature in it compared to the previous tho, same exact layout, no extra stupid features like a touchpad or extra lights.
Andrew Richardson
Can you use the Wii U tablet with the switch?
Nicholas Nguyen
Did you expect more? they can't even get a decent number to go with on launch day, let alone making some of them for free offer.
Jace Robinson
I could use the Wiimote paired with wii classic pad pro for Bayo. Check the back of the box
Leo Cox
That's not what I asked
What I'm trying to say is that you probably won't be able to use any Wii U peripheral on the Switch
Maybe the Wiimotes but apart from that I don't think it will be the case
Ayden Cruz
yup it will fail and here is why
stunted social capability. if it had features like the DS it might have a chance but with the terrible launch games and this it wont
Gavin Clark
No Star Fox No F-Zero No Metroid No Donkey Kong No Wii U/Wii/Gamecube compatibility
HAHAHAHAHAHAH YOU FELL FOR THE SD CARD MEME
Gavin Allen
Sounds about the same as PS+ at least, that shit hasn't been anything but bad indie games for months
Noah Smith
I'm just pointing out that device retrocompatibility is not new considering what you asked which isn't even close to the same thing when both pro controllers are pretty vanilla in terms of gimmicks.
Dominic Cook
Man some cheap launch games will be better than old games everyone's played.
But they should at least be switch games. Even PS+ offered resogun and contrast at launch, that kept me entertained until some actual games came out for a while.
Jacob Hughes
No, Nintendo decided that it was a flop when they dropped support after 3 years
>it'll still be the cheapest console by years end.
PS4 is cheaper with more games and significantly more power
Juan Roberts
I mean at least PS+ has some basic competency in online services in addition to still being able to play your monthly games after that month while you subscribe (which Nintendo isn't gonna). Nintendo's gonna need to bump their online quality up heavily if they want to make it a paid service
Eli Robinson
The Wii was lightning in a bottle, a freak occurrence that you shouldn't expect to happen again. It got a bunch of non-gamers into the medium and then promptly lost them after less than 2 years. Now those same people play phone games instead. It was also far cheaper than the Switch.
Ethan Campbell
I wouldn't be surprised if the success of connecting to miiverse after the paid service was still tied to a diceroll.
Grayson Robinson
Dude this is some hardcore damage control. Step back for a minute and look at what you typed. You're being an apologist. Look that word up if you don't know what it means.
Andrew Wood
Nintendo doesn't love you anymore man, learn to accept it instead of making excuses
Ryder Walker
how long until nintendo gives up and starts developing games for relevant platforms?
Jackson Cook
>Sold out after one day of pre-order >It's going to bomb
Nice logic you fucking retard.
Sebastian Peterson
It sounds out because they don't make enough. I don't think it's gonna bomb so I'm not just arguing with you because I disagree, but I'm pointing out this fact because you need to use real arguments if you're going to try and argue.
Sebastian Mitchell
Sold out, rather. It sold out because they didn't produce enough units.
They always do this.
Jayden Perez
>Nintendo sees everyone online saying that its going to flop like the Wii U >Decide to only make a small number expecting no one will buy it in mass quantities >Suddenly everyone shits on them for not making enough
It's just like the NES Classic. They listened to the retro community, who then screamed that you could just emulate the games or buy a Raspberry Pi, so they didn't make a lot and then the REAL people who wanted it couldn't get it.
Aiden Howard
That's not what happened at all, Nintendo does not listen to feedback, they have been doing this for a long time.
They short-stocked the amiibos, they short-stocked the nes:classic and they are short-stocking the switch.
Why? It creates demand. The line of "It's sold out" makes people want to buy it. It's very basic marketing. When something is sold out, you are far more likely to buy it if you happen to find it somewhere. You hear it's sold out online and then go to wal-mart for something out and you see one. You are going to be way more likely to buy it.
They've been doing it forever man. Stop jumping through logic loops to make it look like something it isn't.
Daniel Thompson
>Nintendo sees everyone online saying that its going to flop like the Wii U
Do you think they haven't even started mass producing systems yet or something? It releases in less than 2 goddamn months