ITT: Villains

ITT: Villains

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Where is the tier that of Villain that does his shit because of what he desires.
Bowser wants to bone peach. It is why he keeps capturing peach.
Taking over the kingdom is just required.

Bowser would go under mid-tier for this. Protection of his homeland and survival of his species by annexing Mushroom Kingdom.

Looks accurate

Is there similar chart for heroes? Truly a missed opportunity.

>Elder God Tier
Heroes whose moties are hard to find right in, and are arguably worse than villain's.
>Great Tier
Passionate heroes who do good things no matter what situation they find themselves in.
>High Tier
Heroes who are symphatizing for the good deeds done to them. They may not care about changing the society at all.
>Mid Tier
Heroes who are only obeying their nature and doing what they do to survive.
>Meh Tier
Heores whose motives are mystery and seem almost insane at times.
(Alternatively)
Heroes whose motives are well established, and who seem completely sane all the time.
>Shit Tier
Heroes who are just good and don't lust for power.

>big boss
I would say so except his motives in TPP were lacking.
>Motives in all other games apart from TPP:
>Wants to carry on his interpretation of the Boss' will; sees it as wanting a place where soldiers and war vets who are persecuted against can live happily.
>Motives in TPP:
>Cipher sunk my battleship, better get a body double to do my revenge dirty work while I set up Outer Heaven and Zanzibar Land

When the most villainous thing he did in that game is allow a "No Russian" in a hospital happen compared to a lot of the other more subtle but more ingenious stuff he's pulled off in other games, it comes across as lazy

Was that a Jojo reference OP?

>no Robbie rotten in elder god tier

I doubt Bowser really wants to get it on with Peach anymore, he's just doing it for the thrills now. It's likely that first few times he did kidnap Peach he really did do it for the power, but that's not the case anymore. After all, he has his own kingdown, loyal subjects and a child. By all means, he's a succesful ruler.
He's most likely just raising havoc and kidnapping women for the thrills now, trying to get some variety in his life from all the ruling. And Mario knows this, since Bowser keeps being invited to all the sporting events and parties, despite being supposedly evil.

Dio's seems legit where it is until he puts the mask on and then he's just down there with Kars.

>Pushing retarded globalist agenda because your mentor and waifu wanted to do it
>God tier

???

>Makarov
>Motives are a mystery
I'm pretty sure he just wanted to start another world war didnt he

I am completely fine with Valentine and Pucci, I guess I also have to agree with Dio (not DIO, part 3 DIO was a major cunt and did everything wrong), however Diavolo doesn't deserve to be in the meh tier, I guess he should be with Yoshikage because he is just the mafia boss, if Giorno didn't go after him and accepted the fact that mafia men do really fucked up/wrong shit part 5 would've been absolutely useless

but WHY did he want to start World War 3? That's the point.

>Breen
>reluctant

I'm getting sick of this meme. He sold out humanity just so he could have a position of power in the new regime, bent over backwards for his new combine overlords, and was going to bail out when things got even a little bad.

>I doubt Bowser really wants to get it on with Peach anymore,
The new game is literally about Mario stopping bowsers and peaches wedding.
Your entire post is invalid.

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that elder god tier sounds fucking dumb

Sounds like your top tier hero would just be an angry edgelord.

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Robbie Rotten IS Elder God tier. You find fault with Robbie's plans.

He doesn't actually hurt anybody. He just wants Sportacus and Stephanie to fuck off. Lazy Town was renowned for being the laziest town in the world, but now it's just another town. Robbie wants the kids to play vidya, eat candy, and sleep a lot.

>Pucci
>only does evil because of his situation

You must've skipped the part about FF and the hundreds of stands he collected over years. I'd bump Valentine down to great, and wouldn't be able to name an elder god tier villain.

>t. Eggman

>Be Bowser aka King Koopa
>Be betrothed to a princess in neighbouring kingdom
>Marriage would unite war torn world
>Suddenly a fucking plumber appears and starts smooching your wife-to-be
>Fuck that. Have the princess escorted to you safely, so you can marry and bring world peace.
>Plumber goes on rampage killing your citizens to get the girl
>Leaves kingdom in ruins
Bowser did nothing wrong

Because he was an extremist who believed in Russia being the rulers of everyone.

Big Boss's motives only became harder to justify every game we learned more about him in. They're very understandable, and complex, but they're not morally right by any stretch of the imagination.

>Implying Bow-wow is shitty villain

That's why he's a good villain: Has good reasons for doing them but what he does isn't nice to accomplish his goals.

>Big Smoke
youtube.com/watch?v=pka_9Tb9_bg

how the fuck is mid tier and great tier any different?

Mid's being driven by their own needs to survive while great is probably in position where they could survive but is forced into doing someone else's dirty work

he's just high tier though, he wants to change society back and get revenge on the people who changed it

This chart is shit

- Dio and Diavolo should be where Kars is
- Pucci should be where Diavolo is
- Kars is sort of between high and great tier.

The problem is that Kars becomes more interesting after he's defeated.

Tiers are always shit and this "Waah! muh sad backstory!!!!' crap is so annoying.

Where would Raven fall under as a villain?

>Kars somewhere between high and great

Genuinely shit taste, please remove yourself from life.

>>>/reddit/

Bowser's goals shift all the time.

>Super Mario Odyssey: Bowser wants to marry Peach

>Super Mario 3D World: Bowser takes over a different kingdom and traps its rulers in bottles

>Super Mario Galaxy: Bowser tries to take over the Universe

>Super Mario Sunshine: Bowser tricks his kid into ruining Mario's vacation.

Fucking big boss as the elder god of villains with "unarguable motives"

how to spot a metal gear solid fanboy

Yeah I guess

What the fuck did King Dedede want to do anyway

There's nothing wrong with having characters that are designated heros and villains, but if you choose to go that route you need to make sure the character's personality can do most of the heavy lifting.

I wonder where Jobin will end up

Bowser just needs to be Dr. Doom to Mario's RICHAAAAAAAARDS

Please, maybe Bowser would be shit tier in a game with a deep story. His appeal is that he's kinda goofy, yet also pretty menacing. He's so lovable imo.

Dedede was really only bad, per say, in Dream Land 1, Super Star's Spring Breeze, and Super Star Ultra's Revenge of the King. Other than that Dedede is actually an ally to Kirby, or Kirby just straight up beats him up becasue he guesses wrong.
Dedede is literally not even a villain anymore. I actually really love how Dedede is an ally/frenemy, it's a fun dynamic.

didn't he steal food for some star rod to prevent some galactic evil from taking over?

It's bait because the top tier villains can't have better motives than the protagonist.

It depends on the game.

A villiain who's more sympathetic is good for stories where we're supposed to question the MC's morality (Nier, Spec Ops etc.).

That doesn't make any fucking sense.

Kirby's Dream Land was when he stole the food. It was Kirby's Adventure where he stole the Star Rod to trap Nightmare.
Dedede's usually a jerk at most, compared to the other Big Bads (even Yin-Yarn).

>Big Smoke that fucking high
he's only good for the memes

villians motives are stupid, pure evil villians can be good if they still behave like belivable persons, paper mario bowser its an example of that.

i don't remember this scene in San Andreas

>Big Boss
>good

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>Sonydrone
>Multiplatform games

I never understood this retarded meme.

Sure, your autistic chessmaster villain who "wuz just tryin to halp the whole time and u dont understnd whats really going on" can be done well, it usually comes off as stupid and needlessly complicated.

Most times, simple is best. A villain who's just in it for the money may not seem the most interesting on paper, but the execution makes them more memorable.

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CONSENCUS AS FUQ

Who's the top 2?

You left out the most classic and patrician motivation of all, lust for gold.

And not, lust for power is not the same thing.

first reply is the best reply

my personal elder tier is the joker: villains who just want to see the world burn

only correct answer

the fuck user ive been trying to comprehend this and youve sent me down philosophical chaos

also mid/high and elder god can coincide pretty well given your descriptions of the three

lust for gold falls under mid tier

Villians who are just evil or lust for power are the best faggot

It started on Playstation retard and the old games are Playstation exclusive

1) It started on MSX
2) Only game exclusive to Playstation is MGS 4

>missing the point entirely

I actually would like to see something like this done in an in depth way, would be cool to see the different hero types there are. I'm pretty sure there aren't gonna be nearly as many variations as with villains.

> Pucci
> Reluctant

Bowser is best tier.

#1 is Marc Lépine
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Lépine
Basically, he was fed up with feminism and decided to shoot up his engineering school, killing 14 women and wounding 10 other people

He was mentally ill, probably because of his abusive father

also he was algerian

dunno about number 2

If he wanted to kill women why did he do it in an engineering school?

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>Breen being anything besides a cock sucking shill

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

read the article man, he was targeting women who were in traditionally male-dominated fields. i think he would have been fine with women who were doing women shit.

Belongs firmly in great tier. One of my favorites

What did waluigi even do?

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Best tier list coming through

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Qwark barely qualifies as a dick these days. Fucker got whitewashed in the remake.

It's not a matter of taste but a matter of motives, that's the fucking chart. Kars isn't evil as demonstrated when he saves a dog from being killed. In parts 1-4 to showcase that someone is evil, Araki had them kill dogs. Kars did not kill the dog, but saved it, so he's not actually evil.

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well I'm sorry for answering a guy's question

Adachi does not match that description at all

It pretty much boils down to:
>Heroes who do good because they are moralfags
>Heroes who do good because it is the most sensible choice
>Heroes who do good only by coincidence, and have selfish motives like his own survival/they are just doing their job
>(anti)Heroes who have morally wrong motivations that require doing good to achieve

#2 is Charles Whitman
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman

what's the anime chick in the middle of God Tier from? I sort of recognize her, but that's all

What tier is he?

A bully from some VN
MC starts choking her and then another girl stops him because she wants to choke her too

lousy lay tier

pizza cutter is a villain?

do you know the name of the VN?

Nope, just posted that because I thought it might help you google her

If I remember right,Yume Miru Kusuri: A Drug That Makes You Dream