Ok, let me state this first off. I like Nintendo. I'm not a fanboy, but I do enjoy their games, systems...

Ok, let me state this first off. I like Nintendo. I'm not a fanboy, but I do enjoy their games, systems, and philosophies. I also like Sony, and I'm OK with Microsoft. I don't really have a favorite per se, but I think each company brings something new to the table.

That being said, I feel as though the Switch is being shit on way, way too much. It's fine to express disappointment with things, but outright dismissing a system due to some tech specs seems foolish to me.

Here's some things I keep seeing:
>The battery life is a fucking joke!
Yes, the battery in it is pretty low, but considering what Nintendo seems to be doing, it's actually not that unimpressive. Their other current portable is the 2DS and 3DS XL. Both of which can play games on the go, but both have average lifespans of about 3.5 - 5 hours, if playing 3DS games. DS games increase that lifespan a bit more, but they're still pretty low numbers.

Thinking about this logically, how many people play entire games in one, long, unplugged session? I'm going to assume the vast majority of people who use these systems play them while they're taking a nice shit, or they're going for a quick car trip, or maybe even on a lunch break. Typically, that span of gameplay is going to be around an hour, tops. I've owned a number of portables in my time, and I can say that I personally used the batteries for power far, FAR less than the AC power.

>This thing isn't even close to powerful like the PS4 or XB1! What a disaster!
Think about this. The Switch was designed to not only play on your TV, but was also designed to be taken on the go. Putting the power of a PS or XB inside of there would give you a battery life of about 2 minutes, if that. On top of that, it would be bulky, heavy, and generate a fuckton of heat in your hands.

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>Why even make it portable? Why not just make a normal console?
Nintendo is taking yet another stab at something. What? Bridging two different things. Instead of having a low powered console you can take on the go, with watered down versions of games, or creating a beefy console that is constantly connected to your television and AC power, they're trying to find a nice middle ground to push the same games that everyone loves (well, except Sup Forums) and not compromise on the TV/portable shift. They're gutting their own portable line, yes, but they're making it so one device does everything.

>$299,99 NINTENDO IS DEAD
Refer to above. You can pay 200 dollars for a console, and then 150 for a handheld. Both play different games that must be purchased separately, and even then, some games can't be played on the TV, or can't be taken on the road. Purchasing one console that satisfies both desires is far more appealing, and the fact you don't need to purchase a game AGAIN just to be disappointed at its implementation for it makes things a lot easier. Believe me, if I could play my PS4 games on the go, it'd be nice. With the Switch, I can.

>Paying for online is wrong and Nintendo should be ashamed
This one really isn't me defending it, as it bothers me as well, but sadly, it's just a sign of the times. More and more people are playing online, and servers can't be maintained nearly as well if they have no steady cash flow coming in. When Xbox Live came on the scene, everyone liked it because it was far better than searching for separate servers that may or may not have decent connections. Sony tried the free multiplayer thing for a while, but one of the largest complaints was how the games played like shit on the PS3's multiplayer servers, versus the 360's servers. Sony went to a paid model, and everything seems to be OK now.

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>You don't even get freebies for having a subscription!
We also don't even know what the pricing is like. For all we know, it could be 2 bucks a month. Maybe only a dollar. Or, depending on what the market is like, it will eventually include more and more freebies. Things could easily change within days of launching the service. My hope is, that they get rid of those fucking friend codes, because those suck.

So those are a few of the things I've noticed. I haven't read too much into the Switch releases, so I may be missing a bit of information here and there, but I do believe that the Switch might be a decent machine for what it's trying to do. It's not trying to be a gaming powerhouse, and it's not trying to be a 3DS replacement. It's trying to be a bridge between two different lines of gaming, and I'm quite interested in seeing where it will go.

That being said, I do not intend on purchasing one right out of the gate, and will wait for some more games to be announced. If the Switch has a bunch of 3rd party devs on its side, it just might do pretty well. If they drop the ball like they did with the Wii U... Well... It just might be the end of Nintendo systems as we know it, and they'll go the Sega route and become only a software developer.

Nintendo should have released a proper console not an ipad

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Like I mentioned, it seems like they're trying to give you two systems in one. A portable and a console. I think it's a decent idea that could show promise with increases in hardware development.

I'm not reading your whole blog post, but I want you to try and defend these points

32gb of internal storage
720p screen resolution with atrocious battery life
other consoles give your far more value for the same amount of money (like an actual blu-ray player, an ethernet port, 1000% more storage, ability to connect HDDs and play it through the console)


it's just ludicrous to defend this piece of shit

Ok here's to hoping for a reasonable conversation about this thing.

Anyway I think the price point is pretty reasonable given the competition's current offerings. Is it as power as a PS4 or XBONE? Hell no, but to be quite honest I can't help feel that FPS comparison and comparisons in graphical fidelty is a bit moot now a days given how far we've come from having 8 sprites on a screen.

One thing I am disappointed in, is the battery life. Honestly I was pretty skeptical with the battery life since it's announcement, but I really didnt expect a 2/2.5 hour minimum. Since one of the Switch's more interesting features is the ability to play console games on the go I would hope for at least a 3 or 4 hour minimum.

One thing I'm on the fence about is paid online. On one hand it paid online makes sense since everyone else is doing it. It takes money to maintain servers and maintain decent customer support for said services. That said, Nintendo really needs to improve their network infrastructure if they expect people to pay for playing online. My previous experiences with online Nintendo games have been... Lackluster for a number of reasons. Lag, network downtime, dropped games are only a few of the problems I experienced.

I'm pretty netural about the reveal overall and I'm looking forward to what they'll have to say (if anything) during their live presentation around E3 (if they have one)

>Like I mentioned, it seems like they're trying to give you two systems

No, no, no, this is just another shitty attempt at Nintendo trying to make a gimmick a selling point. They did that with every console after the gamecube.

>32 GB internal storage
Micro SD cards to expand it. Wasn't this a huge selling point with Android phones not too long ago? Everyone said "Oh, I essentially have unlimited storage with all my SD cards", but now we don't like that idea? Also, I've heard that a vast majority of game saves will be on the game card, not the internal memory. Since I don't have any information on what the internal memory will be speficially used for, I can't answer this completely.

>720p screen/battery life
More pixels means more power consumption by the GPU. That means even worse battery life. The battery itself is pretty much the same as it far underpowered kin like the 3DS and the Vita. Yes, they're older systems, but they're also not trying to push 720p visuals and decent graphics out on a large screen.

>more value for the money
Sure, I can use my PS4 for blu-rays, HDDs, and ethernet, but I can't tote it around wherever I go. I'm buying a game system to play games, not movies. Sure, the addition of those things is a benefit, but are we basing systems on their add-ons, rather than what they were designed to do primarily?

I think it's ludicrous to try and shit all over this without even using it, playing it, or even knowing that much about it. It has its limitations, but in this day and age of updatable firmware, who's to say we can't attach HDDs to the dock, or have an ethernet port on it? Besides, most people seem to be quite content with Netflix, which I'm assuming the Switch will have at launch, or not long after it.

I'm honestly not trying to defend it, but I do think it deserves a chance to be shit, rather than just outright assuming it will be.

Nintendo doesn't have the budget or facilities to directly compete with Sony or Microsoft, you sopping dolt.

Why would anyone attempt to jump into the market that the PS4 clearly has precedence over, so far into the release cycle? Doing their usual 3rd-wheel non-competition is probably one of the few sound decisions they made with the Switch.

Nintendo releasing a "proper console" in 2017 is fucking foolish and would have sunk them immediately.

>32 GB internal

They've already confirmed you can use SDHC cards to upgrade that, so the option is there for people who need the extra space. For people who don't, they don't have to spend extra money on space they wouldn't use anyway.

>720p/batteries

Honestly, I think this is more a nitpick than anything. If you want more resolution and no battery worries, put it in the dock. If you want to keep it charged, fucking plug it in. If neither is an option, then you can still play for a few hours before needing to plug it back in again.

If you're complaining that Nintendo isn't catering to you personally, then go build your own console.

>other consoles

>blu-ray
Whoopde-fucking do. Chances are, if you have blu-rays, you already have something to play them on, so why would you need another thing that does that?

>ethernet port
Was this even brought up? I didn't see any news on a ethernet port or a lack thereof at all.
And if you're taking it on the go, it's not going to work very well with a wired internet connection anyways.

>more storage
See the first point.

>connect HDDs
See the first point again, You can upgrade the storage capacity the same way you could with the 3DS.

Cant /thread your own post you fucking no friend loser

If that's the case, then so be it. Believe me, I completely understand the Nintendo Gimmick systems they keep introducing. Some stick, others don't. At least they're trying to spice shit up, rather than releasing an underpowered PC over and over again. But even in the NES days, Nintendo was full on gimmick with R.O.B.

But I didn't. ;)

I'd say the biggest problem is with the SDHC cards. If they don't have SDXC ability, then it's 32 GB cards only, which is kind of a bummer, but not hugely disappointing. At least with XC, it's 64 and up. Thank god it's not like those fucking shit Vita cards though. Fuck Sony and their proprietary cards they keep trying to shove down our throats.

It might be XC, I'm not sure. I know it was some kind of SD card, and I'm pretty sure I read elsewhere that it supported up to 512 GB or something like that.

In that case, that's a lot better. 512 GB is quite a lot of room for a lot of games. I think that's more than a stock PS4, and much easier to swap out too... Jus sayin

You sound like a huge fanboy who will defend all the wrong decisions they make. Almost none of the gimmicks they introduce stay with their core market consumers and it shows in their game and console sales. The wii only sold well because nobody knew what exactly it was for outside of the motion gimmicks and the vast majority of it's sales were towards smash. It sold due to ignorant parents buying their kids a new console and real gamers only really being interested in it as their smash box. The wii u was a massive flop, so much so that it put nintendo in debt and what's his face had to pay out of pocket because it was mostly his fuck up for approving it so much. The majority of it's sales were relegated to game's like Smash wii u and bayonetta. The only reason people buy their consoles these days are for the 3 or 4 exclusives and that's it. Nintendo has proven themselves to be out of touch with their audience through the years not just from their console decisions but from all the dumb legal and weird commercial shit they try to sell. They create extremely small quanitities of special edition consoles and then miss out when there's over 10k people willing to buy them (see articles on the special 3DS consoles being sold for 800 on ebay). Then there's the bullshit with youtube...

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>720p

>posting all this shit FOR FREE
Lmao how fucking autistic do you need to be

>720p

The vita had 960 × 544 resolution at it was a console released back in 2011, most likely build around 2010. Nintendo should have been able to spring for 1080p, especially when the battery life is not that much longer than the vitas.

But you'll just keep defending them anyway so why do I even bother?

On the Treehouse Stream they showed it using a 256GB Micro SD from Samsung. I think we're alright in that department.

>huge fanboy

Honestly you couldn't be farther from the truth. I will pick up a PS4 any day over a Nintendo system, but I am always intrigued by new ways to game. The Wii was neat for Wii Sports, then you realized that the motion controls were always tacked on a shitty. Aside from a few franchises, the console got no play from me.

The Wii U was also a neat idea, but was never realized properly. There were many missteps Nintendo took that kept it from being a decent platform.

The Gamecube was actually a rather competent system, but again, Nintendo fucked it up by not including online features, and putting those retarded mini-discs insead of making the fucking thing slightly larger to accomidate DVDs.

The 3DS was just a fancier DS with a 3D feature that no one wanted, needed, or used.

The only systems that Nintendo made that I enjoyed were the NES and SNES. Everything after that got a bit of playtime out of me, but I lost interest very fast.

Is Nintendo a god amongst gaming? Hell no. They ARE interesting to watch to see where they will try to take gaming next, however, and that is what makes me still give the slightest bit of a fuck about them. Honestly, if it weren't for their iconic IPs, I wouldn't even care at all.

So, fanboy? No. Not in the least. Personally, I'm a PC Master Race kind of asshole. But that's just me.

Not the person you're referring to, but making a higher resolution screen doesn't mean that everything scales with it. I haven't seen enough graphically demanding games to see what the Switch could put out, but upping the resolution to 1080p could easily cut battery life in half from what it already is.

Yes, there were some Vita games that looked damn nice on that little handheld, but a lot of them suffered a lot too with massive framerate drops. I sold my Vita long ago, but I'm sure they eventually optimized the games to run better later on in it's life.

I think Nintendo was trying to save face with the 720, because if they pushed out a system that couldn't run a game for more than an hour at worst, it would have been more of a joke than people want it to be.

I just don't think that resolution is a huge deal when it comes to games. So long as the game is good and the performance is on point, I couldn't give less of a fuck about the size of the screen I'm playing it on. It's why I've gotten hundreds of hours out of the 3DS Monster Hunter games alone. I could get a better looking game by playing 3U on the Wii U, or by booting up MHO and playing that, but the performance isn't as good and the gameplay doesn't feel as solid because of it.

I stopped reading after intrigued. The fact of the matter is that Nintendo has been out of touch ever since the gamecube lost, despite having higher specs than it's competitors. I guess this confused Nintendo because in their eyes it should have won because it was the strongest, which prompted them to go this weak console but strong gimmick route. The reality of why the gamecube lost was because it didn't have as much games as it's competitors. Nobody wanted to develop for it's shitty mini-disk thing either. And almost everyone but the Nintendo fanboys accept that Nintendo has been out of touch for years. You can defend their decisions and whatever but it's obvious as hell that their choices come from the wrong place. We don't need some super strong PC-type console but at least make it compete with it's two competitors. Don't sacrifice hardware power just so you can split it up for a gimmick, it's bullshit. People keep shitting on them and replying with stuff like "why not just make a normal console?" because that's what it's real consumers actually want. They-Are-Out-Of-Touch

>I just don't think that resolution is a huge deal when it comes to games. So long as the game is good and the performance is on point

The point here is that their screen is barely stronger than another console that was made 6 years ago. The handheld having low resolution means it's extremely weak because it has to render everything much smaller and sacrifice a lot of things just to maintain performance, couple that with the battery life and it just shows how bad it is. It uses so much battery just to run at 720p and still can't last long on it. Just face it, this is no different than the wii or wii u. It's a shitty weak console that's trying to sell itself by having a 'new' feature that others don't have, while sacrificing what it could have had to compete with the other two.

>handheld having low resolution means it's extremely weak

No, it means it has a low resolution. That's like saying my laptop suddenly gets more powerful because I've got a monitor hooked up to it. Changing the screen size doesn't impact the rest of the technology inside the system, only the potential performance at such a resolution and the energy expended to run it in such a fashion.

And 2-6 hours is a perfectly adequate battery life for most people. If you're gaming at home, you'll have it hooked up to the dock, or if not, it doesn't take that much more effort to plug it in. If you're taking it elsewhere, you either take a charger with you on the chance that you'll play enough to warrant it or don't.

And in the end, it doesn't matter. Regardless of how much everyone on the internet bitches, it won't change a damn thing. If you want to play Nintendo's new games, you get a Switch. If not, then you don't. And either way, no one will give a single solitary shit.

And you can shit all over the Wii and Wii U, but that doesn't change the fact that the two consoles have some of my favorite games of all time, and that's really the only thing that concerns me; The games.

>No, it means it has a low resolution. That's like saying my laptop suddenly gets more powerful because I've got a monitor hooked up to it

I stopped reading there because you went full retard. Why are you comparing buying a new moniter for a laptop to resolution that a console's hardware was designed to play on? Consoles don't normally go past their intended native resolution because that is the sweet spot the console's developers deem is the best graphical+performance game devs would be able to design on. I shouldn't even have to explain this shit.

>And in the end, it doesn't matter. Regardless of how much everyone on the internet bitches, it won't change a damn thing

And this is why the wii u flopped and put nintendo in millions of dollars of debt. Keep ignoring your fanbase and things will flop