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Blitzball. Every time I replay this game, I have to reassess if it's really my favorite game when I get to Luca.
The dialogue is pretty horrible and isn't helped by mediocre voice acting (except Seymour; his voice and lines are perfect).
Final boss fights aren't that great.

it would take less time to list the things that went right

off the top of my head
>blitzball is shit unless you grind to be good
>side quests for ultimate weapons suck
>yuna is good but everyone dickrides her
>can't romance rikku or lulu or are better than yuna
>yevon is boring
>sin is boring
>sphere grid sucks because it's linearity pretending not to be linear
Tidus is actually one of the best things about this game as much as people love to hate him. Same with Auron. Most of the characters in these game are either boring, underdeveloped, or just shit. Fuck Macheen.

>blitzball is shit unless you grind to be good
Blitzball isn't good no matter how much you play it.

i had fun somehow with it once i got wakka and brother. however, i would never say it's a properly built minigame. i only did blitzball for wakka's celestial weapon and attack reels. on the subject of attack reels, wakka is fucking broken if you get it early in the story.

Yuna and Rikku are literally the only redeeming qualities in the game.

But mostly Yuna

Literally all you ever need to do is pass the ball to Tidus, walk up to the goal and score. It's a snoozefest with zero strategy that never gets better

in my case nostalgia

Yuna is too much of a "pure waifu for Japanese otaku" in my opinion. She's better in X-2 where she's less of a doormat but not by much. Aerith from FFVII I guess could be in the same archetype but she had way more of a personality and gave the player more reasons to care about her because she was just a better written character in general. People who say her romance with Tidus is one of the best in FF history are pushing it IMO. From a gameplay standpoint, she's overpowered because she makes Lulu obsolete eventually.

I agree, but heterochromia is my weakness

I'm dong another play through of this game starting today, played on PS2 never beat blitzball, played on PS4 a year ago never bear blitzball.
This time around I actually care, how do I get gud before Luca?

Everything except Rikku and Auron.

Get Jecht Shot before Luca, and then make sure you score ASAP before Tidus' health is drained too far to use Jecht Shot.

I think you need 160 minimum to use it.

It's the grindy bullshit that acts as a gatekeeper to progression/good content.

>blizball
>monster catching
>farming crafting meterials (also preventing Rikku from using them ever) for weapons, aeons, and aeon stats
>lightning dodges
>chocobo racing
>butterfly catching
>Al Bhed shit and cactuar side shit that I barely remember
>farming spheres to actually unlock good abilities on the sphere grid
>farming gil to buy clear spheres to get rid of all the useless +1 stat nodes on the sphere grid
>if you're playing the international version you NEED to grind levels and have break damage/HP limit on everyone for dark aeons
>anything else I forgot that involves getting the celestial weapons, good gear/items in general, and not having a shit party with only 3 used characters

You could fight all die in Kilika forest if you want to grind. When you get to Luca, give the Magic Spheres to Lulu because Yuna doesn't need them. Don't buy any of O'aka's expensive items but do donate something to him because late game you'll need a lot of money to buy OP equipment. Passing the ball around to get more XP in Blitzball and I guess Zev Ronso is a good player to recruit. Jumal is good too. If you win the Luca match, give the Strength Sphere to anyone you want but I recommend Tidus because he's piss weak at Strength until late game.

I think the sphere grid is the most interesting thing of this game.
The character design is kind of crap, though.
Blitzball looked good in the intro cutscene, but when you're actually playing a game of blitzball, it's just stupid to behold. Also, everything Tidus does in the water is unrealistic anyways. Yea' yea', I know, "it's final FANTASY".
The storyline was eh.

>Incredibly linear
>Unless you're doing a challenge run you'd have to be braindead to not steamroll the entire main game besides maybe flux/yunalesca
>End game is just shitty max stat bosses that you in turn do the same for and use Tidus Rikku Wakka because of godlike overdrives that do massive combos of 99999 or you RNG with Yojimbo until it works.

Its awful in both the main and end game but ive played it like 5 times for music/good scenes. I feel bad for having wasted that time but im sure ill eventually do it again.

>grinding
Kek great meme friend. You only have to grind for all the side shit. You can follow the main story start to finish with even pretty casually and win.

someone forgot to do this youtube.com/watch?v=LZReBJ8HhR8

>You only have to grind for all the side shit.
good gear
celestial weapons
fun bosses
fun areas
a functional party

>You can follow the main story start to finish with even pretty casually and win.
Only as long as you NEVER call the game linear as a criticism, friend. :^)

>farming crafting meterials (also preventing Rikku from using them ever) for weapons, aeons, and aeon stats
This was bullshit. For the most part, you'll only be able to customize low tier upgrades like +3% Strength or Defense because anything remotely appealing is locked behind retarded item costs. The Wards suck because they only work half of the time and you'll honestly better off just stocking up on whatever item heals that status and later Remedies. Too much of a fetch quest just to get good non-store bought gear in general.
>all the celestial weapon quests
Most of them are bullshit if not all of them. Only Yuna's is easy and maybe Auron's. Fuck lightning dodging and fuck that butterfly shit.

Its way too easy except for some superbosses.

>good gear
>celestial weapons
No. Only for Geosgaeno if you don't want to mix with Rikku.
>fun bosses
>fun areas
>a functional party
You can beat the game without leveling up. Even beat penance.

Only Shinryu cannot be beat without power leveling in FFX.

Nemesis was such underwhelming bullshit. I had the NA version which doesn't have Dark Aeons/Penance and those bosses are way harder than Nemesis but they take like forever to kill. At least in FFVII you only had two super bosses like that.

>You can beat the game without leveling up. Even beat penance.
Yeah you have to use some retarded method just to not get 1 shot to do it. All challenge runs are like that.

daily reminder that you can absolutely break the game in a normal playthrough if you grind in that one time section in bevelle. of course kimahri will be shit but kimahri was always shit.

My biggest complaint about FFX is that there weren't more completely optional areas like the Omega Ruins or whatever the fuck, at least in the NTSC version. I liked having to take time to get my shit together so I didn't get steamrolled, but that was the only place like that in the whole game to my knowledge.

i wish you could've got to dream zanarkand or at least some small piece of land near baaj that showed you dream zanarkand from the distance. really, the airship portion of the game sucked. no open world just sucks.

The HD remake.

Tidus' babyface is horrifying.

>break the game if you grind
I don't think that qualifies as breaking the game, user.

The story and lead character is still shit

Agreed. The airship figured out a way to make the "open world" part of the game linear, which is just embarrassing.

On an unrelated note, are there any games with a similar combat system? I've never been able to find one except that obscure Lord of the Rings game, I think the Third Age. It was fun, but not as good as FFX.

>hating based Yuna
Literally the worst taste. I bet you think disgusting tit monsters like Lulu and Tifa are attractive too, right? Get the fuck out.

I think he's referring to/memeing about Tidus, user.

The fact that Square felt the need to resurrect the decade old story in the worst way possible. And then setting up sequel bait where Yuna who apperanlty learned absolutely nothing from the entire first game is planning to repeat the same exact plot to X while cucking Tidus in the process.

Yuna looks better but Tidus is "wtf were they thinking" tier.

Except that the main character is Yuna and not Tidus.

MOM SAID IT'S MY TURN TO GET A REMAKE

>Yuna looks better
Now that I am triggered none shall escape these facts.

No.

My nigga

Lulu looks okay imo.

...

>lead character
>this is my story
>play as him
>story is told from his perspective
>please listen to my story
>yuna's player controlled walk animation exists but is never used outside of the bevelle dungeon
>blitball gets a minigame but performing a sending doesn't
>this may be my last chance
>Yuna gets her own game afterward anyway
>WHY DIDN'T YOU LISTEN

You have a special kind of autism.

>Lulu looks okay imo.
No.

>play the english version as a kid
>yuna was boring garbage who was too shy to do anything worth my attention
>play the international version later with the Japanese VA
>yuna actually has emotions and speaks with confidence
>mfw Breath of the Wild's Zelda is the same bullshit all over again

>muh submissive doormat
>muh teedus
>muh shitty english voice acting
Your waifu is shit deal with it.

FFX is basically one of those toys for toddlers where you fit the block in the hole, except a simplified version for stupid kids. You just look at the enemies and you know which one you're supposed to kill with which character instantly. It doesn't even cost a turn to switch out to a different character either, so there's no such thing as adapting, or creating a new strategy because you didn't have the right character in your party.

FFX fans will just try to claim that every RPG is like this, but that's not true. In a good RPG, it's not entirely clear what your strategy will be when entering the battle, and you have to figure it out on the fly. The only decent thing about FFX's gameplay is there are handful of good bosses once you're 70% of the way into the game.

On top of this, you have to deal with some of the shittiest "puzzles" I've ever seen in a game, the cloister of trials. Who can defend that shitty conveyor belt "puzzle", or the tetris trial and error "puzzle"? Puzzle in quotation marks, because I don't know if they can really be considered puzzles. It's more of just a boring way to waste the player's time before allowing them to continue the game.

Overall, it's the most overrated FF game. People consider it one of the best in the series, when it is in fact one of the worst. I'd honestly rather play FF1 or 2.

Look how the PS2 could make faces look real and cute. But when it went HD it went to shit. Shameful. Better play the Vita version of the HD version to save you from seeing that.

I said okay not great. The FFX remaster is mostly shit.

Tidus is the POV, you play as him the most.
>this is my story

Tidus is the lead character

Don't trigger me ever again reeeee

FFX is the PS2's FFVII except that VII is way less flawed than X.

>Says game is literally for babies
>Gets stuck on a puzzle which needs basic intelligence
>Calls out fans of the series
Thanks retard.

What does it feel like having shit taste?

You do have to think about who you want in your party though because some monsters are fast and some characters are slow, this effects future turns. If the boss attacks 3 times in a row the character you swap in might die because they're weak etc etc.

not gonna lie i liked seymour. he's annoying as shit but he's way better than sin who's literally my dad's whale.

What if we had the PS2 models with the remaster's environments and non-jerky animations?

>Sin sucks

It's a giant fucking space whale that's also your dad. What do you want?

He has the worst character design in the entirety of mainline Final Fantasy.

He is only rivaled (but no bested) by the FFTA/FFTA2 protagonists and Nooj.

Something better than Sin. Looks like they wanted to make Bismarck an Aeon but they fucked up the design too much for it to be a regular Aeon so they just made it the main "villain" instead.

Do you mean visually because that is subjective. He looks fucking weird because he's supposed to be some kind of alien man of another race.

Almost everyone in Spira looked like shit so I'm less upset about his retarded character design.

It aged like milk. Some good ideas about rotating characters in and out of your front line so you can deal with specific scenarios, but it all falls flat late-game when you can just get everything on the sphere grid.

Yuna is the type of woman that just sits alone in her house while her husband is fucking another girl. She's lame man.

Did her bust get smaller, too?

Blitzball actually becomes fucking awful if you grind to late stages. Early-Mid is fun. Once everything learns tackle slip, the game goes right to shit.

I don't know.

I never was able to get 200 lightning dodges. I don't know how anyone is autistic enough to do it. And I was autistic enough to do all the monster catching and blitzball shit. To this day I have a save file with a maxed out blitzball squad, sphere grid, and everything else except that.

you must be thinking of lulu because she actually ends up fucking her dead boyfriends brother like the asshole she is. wakka doesn't deserve lulu and they only get together because x-2's writing was so shit they didn't know what to do with any character not named yuna/rikku/paine.

Looks like it a little. Not that she had much to lose, in X anyway.

Fuckin' chinks. What are the chances they might do a proper remake to replace this garbage? I'm thankful I still have the PS2 version to play, even if it's not international version.

I only did it once but I will never do it again. People on GameFAQs told me that lightning dodging is easy and that I'm just a casual for thinking it's retarded. What is funny is that Lulu's celestial is not even worth getting because she's shit for the late game. Same with Kimhari and Auron.

Yes visually. He's supposed to be half man half forest jew, and they somehow fucked it up amazingly. Regular guado make more sense than him.
>the hair is a gimme
>outfit serves no practical purpose
>chest and belly entirely open
>a fucking bolo tie
>mirrored chest tattoos of dragons or unicorns
>hairless chest, weird hairy belly
>blue hair when the guados usually have green or brown hair
>face veins the same color as his hair
>zero facial hair despite guado men being fucking hairy as shit
>uses a tiny magic wand with the same oversized top ornament as yunas staves

Thankfully, the two most bullshit minigames for celestial weapons belong to the two least used characters in the game, so it's not that much of a problem.

>What are the chances they might do a proper remake
>squareenix ever doing a proper remake of anything
Yes, that also means FFVII's remake will suck

They wanted to make Kuja 2.0 but fucked up somehow.

I like his voice and facial structure but yeah the rest is dumb. He's so bad even Dissidia doesn't give a fuck about him. Jecht was a better bad.

I will never forgive Dissidia for having the second game be all about that bitch Lightning.

nothing its the best ff you stupid fuck of a pleb

Do you think she cucked Yuna behind her back? Pretty sure she wanted Teedus' dick too.

>best ff
>not 6
neo Sup Forums is beyond cancer.

6 has the worst villain in the series

Name one villain better than Kefka.

You tell me.

>implying Rikku didn't want Wakka's dick but Wakka didn't want none of that Al Bhed slut's shit

Wakka is too busy jerking himself off because of his pseudo incest fantasy with Tidus to fuck with Rikku.

Any villain with a motive

Kefka had a motive. He was a psychotic murderer that thought life was pointless so there wasn't anything wrong with murdering people in his eyes. He's also hopped up on magitek and just progressively more insane with more power he possesses.

Nah. She made it pretty clear she just wanted Yuna to be happy. Tidus was more interested in her than she was in him.

It was pretty obvious that she had a thing for Gippal, aka Al- Bhed Chad.

I wish FFX was more open ended with it's romantic plot. Yuna every single game gets boring after a while. Why have affection values if I can't do anything with it? Just fap fodder really.

Do you ever sleep?

That scene though. Gippal wanted to yuna Yuna. Rikku just ehehehe'd it.

Sephiroph

this game is pretty much a cuckold simulator if you try to date anyone not named yuna.

I like FFX, but it's truly the game in the series that reminds me where Everything Started To Go Wrong -
>no proper airship
>no world map
>extremely linear
>voice acting
>super bosses basically involved sacrificing Aeons to them
>Dark Yojimbo was bullshit and there was no way to figure that shit out in 2002
>SE ruined the bittersweet ending with a shitty sequel
Followed by three MMOs I don't care about.

FFXV is the best best FF since IX, I'm just gonna say it. All flaws included.

FF can't do romance properly at all, it seems. The bromance plot in XV was way better than anything going on between Noct and Luna. It's a shame really.

>>sphere grid sucks because it's linearity pretending not to be linear


Thank you ive been saying this for years

They just made it in circles to give you the illusion of variety

The 'sphere' grid is shit and if you believe it isnt youre shit