"The thing is that Zelda is most likely going to be the killer-app for launch; and frankly...

"The thing is that Zelda is most likely going to be the killer-app for launch; and frankly, if I were to be interested in it, I would want it to be running at 60 (FPS). I'm not going to play an action game at 30 frames per-second, that's just not going to happen; why would I? There's tons of games I could plan on PC and even other consoles that run much better than that and as a result are more enjoyable. So if they're looking to attract people like me, who are more knowledgeable more, "core gamers" then you want your game to be running better than that."

"If those games run at 60 (FPS) on Switch and not 30 (FPS) then as far as I'm concerned it's a better machine than the PS4 or Xbox One. There's no point in having that extra power if you're not using it in the right places."

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Its still funny to me that TB cares this much about 60 frames per second. There is no way he doesn't have legitimate autism.

It's common sense.
I don't play sub 60 fps games either, it makes the gameplay automatically bad.

>it makes the gameplay automatically bad
How?

>falling for the 60 fps meme

us hardcore gamers huhuh us hardcore 60fps gamers huh?

complaining about video games is a strange thing to do for a man who's life is very soon going to run at a steady zero frames per second when the tumors finally consume the rest of his autism-riddled brain.

I'd go out and enjoy life with the rest of my time. spend my life savings on hookers and coke, maybe kill a man?

It feels clunky and unresponsive.
Framerate isn't graphics, it's gameplay.

While I do like having 60fps in games, I'm not going to make it the final decision in my purchase since it's on a console.

It averaged more like 17, I have no idea how this was at any point considered playable. Yet I played through this game and MM which ran even worse like a dozen times each.

Memes, all memes. Even PC classics like Doom and Quake were 30 fps back in the 90s.

1998 was a different time, when that framerate was acceptable. There's no excuse to be using hardware so shitty that 60 fps isn't possible now.

>going to be dead in a few months
>spends his precious time bitching about videogame framerate
How fucking sad can you get, jesus.

duke 3d was ridiculously low, like sub 20

>back in the 90s
What does this prove?

Consoles are still lagging behind, they'd rather go for the 4K meme when they can't even display 30+ fps in 720p/1080p.
Did we forget that we're playing games and not watching movies? Next thing you know, they'll replace all in game cutscenes with 4K 60 fps FMV so it actually looks good.

>What does this prove?
That until le ebin youtubers started bitching about 60fps it wasn't an issue to even hardcore gamers.

are we judging modern games with standards from decades ago? frame rate is the most important aspect to having a game feel good to play and control. im not autistic enough to shit on a game if its framerate is limited due to console exclusivititg, but im willing to shit on consoles for having weak hardware and console exclusivity

TB is going to buy it anyway.

>people like me, who are more knowledgeable more, "core gamers"
Jesus christ, why won't he die already?

>all the triggered sonyponies itt
kek he's not wrong

That line was borderline cringe and I dont usually use the word cringe to describe something.

I'll take 30 fps if it means BotW turns out to be an open world game done well and not just a shitty meme game.

Are you kidding? 60fps was the norm way before youtube was even a thing.

Technically, you could have both.

>steady zero frames per second

>these butt blasted console drones

stay poor you worthless neets. you obviously have never played a game at 60 fps and have no idea what is considered standard in fucking 2017. try looking away from your obsolete shitbox for one second

Of course he says this. His entire livelihood is based on convincing poor cucks that they need 60fps in every game even when you don't. He has to perpetuate that meme or his family will starve.

>/>363968938
Dude you tried too hard with that bait, next time make it less obvious.

Not for at all for 3D games and sort of for 2D games, NES, Genesis and SNES mostly played at 60fps but all had slowdown from time to time and some games ran at a lower frame rate just because.

True, but I wouldn't expect it on a Wii U or a fucking tablet.
That and no 3D Zelda game has ran better than 30 fps unless you count ALBW.

literally us gamers no matter how much dumb frogposting there is

>no 3D Zelda game has ran better than 30 fps unless you count ALBW.
This is a problem.

Sorry faggots, people that play candy crush on their phones aren't real gamers. I'm sorry buzzfeed got your head turned around enough you've actually picked this rock to die on bt core gamers is a useful label in an age where "lol I play Pokemon Go I'm such a nerd! xd" is a thing.

Doom was 30 FPS because we didn't have wide-spread cards or as we called them "3D accelerators". The moment I put that Vodoo 2 in and booted up Quake is the moment I remember getting silky-smooth 60 FPS. Same goes for the later Descent titles, Quake II, Unreal I, etc.

Point is, 60fps became a standard as soon as we had our hands on dedicated graphics processing units. I know that's hard to understand for people who thought at the time that Goldeneye was a revolution.

>caring about fps
>in a zelda game
this is advanced autism

This game is twenty years old, just so you know.

Why wouldn't he? Zelda is an action game, not a fucking grand strategy or a JRPG. FPS is important.

Why? Pretty sure all those games are beloved.

Do you really think I've never played Doom or Quake past 30fps? Or any game made for PC back when PC still had exclusives?

>Voodoo 2
>60fps in Quake
youtube.com/watch?v=r7nYcdixgoM

>it's okay to be 30fps because it was 30fps in the 1990s

is this really the best defense people can come up with?

there is no excuse for it to be 30fps. every game runs and plays better at 60fps.

I remember that fucking box

zelda is known for being sub-20 frames per second. It doesn't negatively affect the experience at all. It's not a fighting game

>Voodoo

I miss this edgy ass company

He's right.

You faggots are either too young or never ever experienced all your games in more than 80 FPS to spout nonsense like "30 FPS is fine". It's not.

>You could be gaming away at a blazing 60fps @ 1024x768 in 1998 with a Pentium 2 + Voodoo2 SLI setup
>20 years later consoles still cant do this

>zelda is known for being sub-20 frames per second. It doesn't negatively affect the experience at all.
This is the goofiest shit I've read all day

>not caring about fps
>in an action game
this is advanced autism

>why would I want to DOUBLE the responsiveness in an action game where me and my camera are constantly in motion? especially when literally any PC made in 2017 could achieve it without any problems?

>Useful label
>Still makes you sound like a maximum faglord when you use it

Every game runs and plays better at 120 fps, there's not excuse for them running at 60.

> There are other games
Ah all the 3D Zeldalike games on PC running 60 fps.

N-NO GUYS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, THE GAME DIPS TO 10FPS ON PURPOSE TO GIVE YOUR HITS MORE IMPACT

IT'S LIKE YOU'RE HITTING SO HARD THAT THE GAME CAN'T EVEN HANDLE IT

Yeah, they're beloved in spite of the fps issue, not because of it.
60 fps always feels better than sub 30 fps, regardless of series, genre, or IP.

I don't mind tablets or handled not reaching 60 fps but when I jump in my couch with a controller in hands, I would expect to get a reasonable framerate (reasonable being 60fps and above) as it is heavily tied to my game experience.

>it's okay because it was okay before
isn't an excuse, now is the time to change and decent framerate should be the first goal of any new generation console.

Framerate has diminishing returns. The industry has agreed on 60fps as being the perfect compromise between smooth gameplay and high fidelity graphcis. But you knew that.

>zelda is known for being sub-20 frames per second. It doesn't negatively affect the experience at all. It's not a fighting game
Any game whatsoever the requires quick reflexes is hurt by low framerate just from a simple gameplay perspective. This isn't getting into the fact that 30FPS looks like shit.

60fps is objectively better, but a game running at 30 is never going to dissuade me from playing it.

I don't really care much about the framerate but most of Nintendo 1st party games ran at 60 don't they?

That's right. 60 fps wasn't even invented during 5th gen.

Not Zelda. For whatever reason.

>killer-app
ITS A FUCKING GAME, FUCK THAT FUCKING MEME WORD

> people who think that consoles cant do 1080p 60 fps by some technical limits instead of devs always choosing graphical fidelity over 60 fps

I don't give a fuck. Let the rainbow haired freaks on the blogs you read titter about it, even they know who I mean whether they want to admit or not.

Underage detected.

60 FPS is definitely better than 30 FPS and feels better, but it doesn't make 30 FPS unplayable.

I'm not sure what the big deal is. Sounds more like autism if you think a game looks fun and are about to buy it, but stop as soon as you see it runs at 30 first person shooters.

Is TotalCuck dead yet? I haven't kept up on him since he blocked me on Twitter after I told him to stop crying like a bitch (said it nicely even but got blocked anyway). He's a soft little cunt.

There were only ffive games on the N64 that ran at a solid 60fps.

No, the industry has accepted 30 FPS as the standard as you can see on consoles.

>Underage detected.
>implying
>been playing most of my life
>suddenly games/programs are apps
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT

Wasn't he the guy who WATCHED Bloodborne instead of playing because of low framerate and then deemed himself prepared enough to talk about it?

TB tends to cling to certain terms and phrases.
It's a, dare I say, a true head scratcher.

Killer-app means it's the game that will sell consoles.

it's not autism when you expect a $300 device to achieve 720p/60 in the year 2017

People really need to fuck off with this 60 fps meme.

If your game looks like shit 60 fps doesn't make it any more playable. People that think not having 60 fps somehow makes a game unplayable are just talking out of their asses. It's like retards saying they can't eat gluton, yes you can play the game at 30 fps you fucking idiot.

Phrase has been used to describe video games and the like for literal decades
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killer_application

They are using mid-range tech from 2011.

30 FPS is the bare minimum for playability and consoles still fail to reach it.

I could drink my own piss as well without it killing me but I don't want to do that either. I can play games at maximum saturation, with inverted colors, with all manner of shit that would hamstring my enjoyment enough not to actually want to play without literally making the game unplayable.

play Doom 2016 on a 144hz monitor and tell me that 30fps is playable

you will literally never want to go back

do you realise pro players set their games at the lowest settings in order to achieve the highest framerate possible?

stop spewing your neetcuck bullshit

Unresponsiveness, that's all.
You might not notice it in a game you've always been playing at 30 fps, Dark Souls 1 controls for example felt very heavy for that reason but any game that goes from 60 to 30 will feel much less responsive.
Try playing DaS at 60 fps, it's a completely different beast.

Probably due to it's huge scale and it being produced for 2 and a half skews (WiiU, Switch, and Switch Docked).

It's lame and I would prefer 60, but a steady 30 isn't a deal breaker for me.

He should be spending more time with his wife and his wifes son instead of playing video games

>Killer App

No, that isn't autism.

What my post was about, however, is. It has nothing to do with the console it is on.

Yep. And that's ridiculous.

No I mean Zelda has NEVER been 30fps. Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Skyward Sword were all 30 locked. It's shit. It's not really acceptable in modern day but Nintendo fans accept it

>zero frames per second

got me good

Graphics aren't gameplay but framerate is.

Right now, the docked Switch runs BotW at 900p 30fps. Eurogamer was told at a Switch event that Nintendo hopes to have the game running at 1080p 60fps (docked) by launch. Not entirely trustworthy unless heard straight from the horse's mouth but sounds likely to me.

Because as we move into consoles that are more of a mini PC with it's own operating system (OS), games are becoming applications (Apps) within this OS through digital download or loading the files onto the harddrive.

I'm in favor of 60, but you realize that by demanding 60, you're essentially forcing developers to create lower fidelity areas, and smaller enclosed spaces

they're not going to actually create a different, better version for PC, we knew that when New Vegas was released with a chopped up main city

>cucks himself in videogames
doesn't he have cancer? When does it become lethal?

>consolefags cannot form a legitimate argument against his points
>"y-yeah but cancer"

come on

Most people played Doom at like 10 FPS

Computers that could actually run Doom decently was expensive as fuck

Actually what you're doing is forcing developers to not develop for shitty incompetent hardware

>He literally makes a living playing videogames by not playing videogames
Wow. He really is /our/ guy.

They'd sooner not produce anything for PC before they cut off their console market.

>yeah but cancer
More like yeah butt cancer

You're forcing developers to actually be good at their fucking jobs and have, y'know, talent.