Why did it die?

Why did it die?

No one bought the games


Too high of a budget for the returns

Theyre waiting to btfo matterfall

not good

retro studios aren't making games for the franchise anymore

It didn't sell. Never did. Super was the only remotely successful one and it still sold far below the other flagship franchises.

>Metroid and Fire Emblem are two of my favorite Nintendo series
>I thought both of them would die
>Fire Emblem Awakening happens, the series is more popular than ever
>But Metroid is left forgotten and to only get the occasional spin-off

I hope Metroid gets its own Awakening someday, so the series can come back.

But Fire Emblem is worse off then Metroid. It's only generic anime trash now

But what would it be? Another Prime? Super? Other M but done well?

The Gaiden remake is looking good at least. The most unique in the franchise and hopefully they'll keep the waifu stuff out since it's based on an older game.

shut up, idiot.

Conquest's gameplay and the Gaiden remake are giving me hope for the series.

They already made her a bimbo waifu in other m. That didn't work either.

they should just make budget 2D metroid titles for the eshop

They need to try cute pirates and tsundere Ridley instead.

it peaked with the original Prime and also Super. There were a lot of good ones on handheld, like Zero Mission and Fusion. A new handheld one would be great

Then go the amazon waifu route.

QUESTION
how does she turn into a ball?

chozo technology

Women are flexible.

is nintendo afraid of pissing off the sjws?

They're adding a bunch of new female characters in, and I'd wager it's not to avoid being called sexist.

Just stop focusing on the zero suit and you dodge that problem entirely.

Shut the fuck up.

>Metroid sells 13 million in a lifetime
"Dead and obscure franchise"
>Fire Emblem sells maybe 7-8 million with the help of smash and dating simulation
"Literally as popular as Zelda here's a million spinoffs and smash characters"

What's with the bias

what occurs, structurally? she turns into a ball of electricity?

Japan sales

Metroid isn't as marketable and probably even less so in Japan.

R&D1 was dissolved

zero suit samus is my waifu, we need more of her

Budget. BUDGET, BUDGET, BUDGET.

You're the one with the bias if you think a Fire Emblem came costs as much as a Metroid game to develop.

Really, Fire Embull costs less than metroid? I've never played it but the dating sim alone feels like it should cost a lot of manpower.

Growth.

Metroid's best-selling games? Prime and the original. Fire Emblem's best-selling games? Awakening and Fates. Add on the successful card game (contrast that shit with the Final Fantasy TCG) and why wouldn't they want to hype it up as much as they could?

Most of their sales come from the US. All Awakening had to do was sell 225,000(less than what Metroid has been doing) and we'd still be getting them

Yet they could spend money developing Fedora Force for 7 years? I don't like FE but the newer ones look like they have a decent budget. Metroid deserves at least a new cheap 2D game.

Write write write vs draw thousands of 3d models

Or some kind of spiritual magitech mumbo jumbo. Her very body would have to warp with her suit for it to be possible.

>we want the otaku audience
is why

Would a detailed sprite game be more or less expensive these days?

I miss her.

Only if she's as tall as her power suit this time.

Federation Force wasn't in development full time those 7 years. And I meant Metroid Prime and Other M were expensive games, Other M especially.

You are comparing the budget of a handheld strategy game that mixes sprites and lo-res models to a AAA Wii game.

which games? retard logic if you mean other m

If one guy could make a Metroid game by himself I'm sure Nintendo could make a game with a maximum of Awakening's budget.

Since her suit is able to materialize at will, I think she has the ability to manipulate energy/matter to some degree including her own. So when she turns into a morph ball she converting herself into more compact form of matter.

No you dumbass, Nintendo treated Metroid like an A tier franchise during the GameCube/Wii era and were met with continually declining sales.

Pretty cheap, even indie devs do them

>2D game
Players don't want that. They want submissive, incompetent Samus. Chibi marines and space pirates.

A game that took him ten years and still wasn't even completed. A game that also wasn't original, but a remake.

Pic related is why it died.

Because Nintendo only shits out what Japanese people living in Japan will purchase. The wants of the American market for a relatively niche series are irrelevant.

Fire Emblem is even more niche, but japs eat that shit up. They don't buy metroid.

Anything good never lasts.

You'll learn more about life as you get older

Rumor has it that Nintendo hired Vanillaware to develop a 2D metroid for the Swtich

They should've hired him to do a Sonic Mania for Metroid desu.

10 years in his free time without a budget all by himself, with a team of many people working on it full time it'd be much faster.

I hope some of these are trolls.

this is fake right?

fpbp

Nintendo is a very creator driven company, if there was someone passionate at Nintendo that wanted to it might occur but most people who worked on Metroid have moved on

Why can't you just crawl, dumb bitch?

Nope, but to be fair Pauly did go on to complete the game and said he enjoyed it.

Metroid Prime was easily better than anything in the last two console generations, Ninty are stupid as fuck.

she can in zero mission

How were Other M and Federation Force?

They make those shitty Donkey Kong sidescrollers, crappy Kirby games and that shitty Yoshi's Woolly World. Those sell terribly.

If Nintendo marketed Metroid like Halo it would do wonders.

Couldn't tell you from my own perspective. I was talking games in general. From the looks of it, other M was garbage though and Federation Force is an insult.
But hey, I haven't played them.

What are they making now?

Am I the only person in the world who liked other m?

/thread
metroid can't be the hand holding experience Nintendo wants without losing the essence of metroid.

They stopped making games.

The Metroid Prime games were the last main Metroid games and all three sold well.

Then they let Team Ninja make Other M, which was shit and barely a Metroid game and they acted like it was just that people didn't like Metroid any more.
Then they made Federation Force which is a shitty unrelated game with a Metroid skin slapped on.

Essentially, we haven't had a real Metroid since the commercially successful Metroid Prime 3 in 10 years ago because Team Ninja fucked up hard.
We haven't had 2D Metroid game since 2004, which also sold well.

Essentially, there's no reason it should have died except for retarded Japanese businesses attempts to save face.

But muh Jap market

t.Nintendo

>Metroid is one of, if not my favorite vidya franchise
>gets shit on perpetually because every normie on this planet beats their dicks raw over Zelda instead
>tfw we'll never have another 2002 or 2004
>tfw no year where we get both a 2D and 3D installment of the franchise
>only pain

Look, I like Zelda just as much as the next guy, but come the fuck on. It even seems like Castlevania is more popular.

Metroid is so goddamn atmospheric, the music is god tier, bosses are fucking great, exploration is fucking great. fml

I want to cuddle Samus' butt cheeks.

Is there a better female character than Samus?

>crappy Kirby games
You take that back

You're correct. Federation Force sold 60,000 copies worldwide.

Yes, Metroid Prime was fantastic, if not outright perfect, but they aren't interested in Retro making those kinds of games anymore. They want Other M and Federation Force. And when the fans petition them, begging them not to kill the series by releasing a game nobody will buy, they insist that they're right and the fans are wrong.

They're nothing more than casual bait sold on the premise of being "comfy".

>b-but muh true arena which is an extremely small part of the game at the very end of it that can't be accessed early

Fuck off Dobson.

Define "better". More interesting or capable? Yeah, basically any female character from anything. More boner inducing? Depends on if you have a bimbo fetish or latex fetish or not.

His non-mobile games are ass, as in Wii and Wii U titles.

The same team that made the Prime games are largely not with Retro anymore and besides the director of the Prime trilogy, Mark Pacini, recently did ReCore which was pretty not good.

Keep Retro with Donkey Kong or a new IP.

No, I have a friend who insists the game was excellent and far superior to the "slow, clunky" Prime games, and my brother-in-law says that the only reason anybody disliked Other M was because Samus talked in it.

It had the makings of a good Metroid game but terrible execution and the story being the shit cherry on top. It's disappointing because I would like some of what they tried done well but they'll never try it again for fear of backlash. Just like Sonic 06 killed any hope for another Adventure game.

Donkey Kong Returns outsold the entire Metroid Prime trilogy.

It wasn't so much that she talked, it's that the words that came out of her mouth were asinine drivel.

>Just like Sonic 06 killed any hope for another Adventure game.
You might be surprised to know that Sega tried to contact Ryan Drummond before the reveal of Sonic Generations. They were apparently interested in having three Sonics, with Dreamcast Sonic having Adventure-style gameplay.

>Metroid Prime series gets great critical acclaim
>Sakamoto gets incredibly buttblisered about it because Fusion gets completely overshadowed
>When the time comes for the next Metroid game Retro was busy with Donkey Kong, so he was given full creative control over a new project
>Purposfully sets out to make the Anti-Prime, instead of a fun game
>Forces the team to build the game around a single Wii Remote against all protests about how bad of an idea this is
>By the time Nintendo realized what happened, it was too late
>Franchise ruined for at least a decade

t.sakamoto

They need to make you feel like the biggest badass in a world rich with story and history. Have the protagonist be a vessel like Master Chief pre 343. The solitude in some sections of Bungie Halo games is excellent.

In fact, have Bungie make the next Metroid. Don't mistake me saying that as "make it a shooter". Think about Prime made by Bungie.

they should just bring it back to 2d and focus on 3ds releases. there are more 3ds in circulation and it would be cheaper to develop on. i loved the prime games, but this is what i want to see them doing first.

>killed Ridley several times without as much as a whimper
>PTSD episode upon seeing Ridley

>that video where ProJared tells Reggie to his face that Other M was just a waste of time

The fact that there has never been a proper Metroid game on the 3DS is fucking staggering.

So brave!

>Won't use weapons because guy I have a crush on says not to.

I think they should at least give it one more chance since enough time has passed for the market to change. They might get another thing like Fire Emblem Awakening, with the series being next to canceled but then becoming one of their top IP's.

Did you skip GOTY last year or something?

I want 2d metroid, fuck off primefags

If you say so, I just found it sort of cathartic.

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honestly, nintendo really dropped the ball when they shitcanned am2r instead of just paying the guy and officially releasing it. it would have sold well, been great PR and taken practically no work on their end after all was said and done.

>Dedicated creator is dead
>Second dedicated creator gone awol
>Spinoff series handled by that prick tanabe
Sells like shit Japan (Aka the only place where sales actually matter)