This is a ninth gen console. Let that sink in

This is a ninth gen console. Let that sink in.

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why dat toast so stretchy?

>ninth gen console
>less powerful than a 7 gen console.

so 9th generation consoles are so powerful that they can have the same graphics as an 8th generation console, but on a handheld?

I will not tolerate any sinks in this household young lady.

>720p
>1 hour battery life
>only release exclusive is a last gen game

they should have just named it the wii u 2

He toast too big for he gotdang switch

>wii u is slightly stronger than 630/ps3
>switch is much stronger than a wii u
sure it's still shit in comparison to the rest of 8th gen but don't fucking lie

>both systems are stronger than gen 7 consoles
>all their games still look worse or on par with them
Rely made me tikn

No no no no no.

WiiU was 7.5 and switch is still less than ps4 and xbone.

Switch is 7.75 gen.

BUTTERED TOAST!

I swear Everytime the battery life is mentioned it gets lower

>Implying Nintendo's newer consoles can be classify under conventional gen classifications
They stopped making competitive consoles since the Wii.

>Five second battery life

Sad.

>wii u is slightly stronger than 630/ps3
[citation needed]

Consoles don't adhere to strict generations. Let that sink in.

>implying they dont

Console generations as people use them as just arbitrary cutoff points based on their release period. Why do people think there's some kind of concrete fact about them.
Fun fact: the launch of the Saturn/PS1, N64 and Dreamcast are each separated by two years.

Yes. The future is bright.

>muh wikipedia regurgitation.
The Wii was marketed towards a userbase that don't normally play videogames (namely grandparents and soccer mom) as opposed to core gamers. Unfortunately they were not able to recapture that market with the Wii U and now they're trying something different with the Switch.
businessmodelalchemist.com/blog/2007/01/nintendos-blue-ocean-strategy-wii.html

Considering the Xbone and PS4 are once again practically identical consoles and neutered PCs at their core and the Switch won't fundamentally drive away third party support like the Wii U did, I'm giving the Switch a fair chance to impress everyone

There's already third-party developers claiming they have no interest on developing for the Switch. Most of them are just going to show off a token support at launch and then they keep on making their stuff for PS4 and Xbone.

So was the Wii not a console thats primary function was to play games?

eh to me the switch's goal in production was to provide a "switch" in what their company should be making, a stepping stone to find a profitable direction.

they're putting all of their design concepts into one console, which can fulfill multiple different things, not with the idea to use all of them but with the idea of finding what people actually want to buy from them.

that is why they're experimenting with bringing back the open world 64/sunshine model with the new mario.

...

So is the NES Mini, but nobody is claiming it to be a ninth gen console.

>Battery dies as soon as it leaves the charger
How can Nintendrones defend this?

See.

>Breath of the Wild can be played for 3 hours
>2 hours?! What good's a handheld you can only play for 1 hour?!

>this is what most Japs and American play games on now

Just let that sink in...

I'm confused.

What the fuck are console generations supposed to represent?

Leaps forward in technology, innovation, design, form factor?

Because gameplay hasn't really been getting any better, so why would you need better graphics and higher resolution with more frames per second if every game is fucking terrible?

I was under the impression that console generations merely were used as a time measurement tool for the general releases of various consoles

8.5th considering Sony and Microsoft also seem keen on iterative hardware

It's truly come to a breaking point for me, with the 0.5-gen console idea taking off.
The capitalistic greed of the industry is becoming too blatant, they're not even hiding it or trying to make it better for us anymore.

I have a PS4, but it shall be my last console. It's been over a year, and this generation's library has been pathetic.

From now on, I'm going to invest in a good gaming PC and keep it updated for a couple years at least before saving for a new one.

A brief history of Nintendo's home console sales

>NES
>Competition against Sega

>Super NES
>Competition against Sega and NEC

>Nintendo 64
>Competition against Sega and Sony

>GameCube
>Competition against Sega, Sony and MS

>Wii
>FUCK YOU, SONY AND MS! WE CASUAL MARKET NOW!

>Wii U
>Competition against Sony and MS

The Wii U came out too late to be a proper Gen 7 console while not being powerful enough to compete in Gen 8. The Switch is just Nintendo trying to figure out why nobody are buying their home consoles anymore by making a portable Wii U with an HDMI OUT adapter.

The GameCube didn't really compete with the Dreamcast, user.

>not buying a Switch Toaster to enjoy alongside your PS3 Grill

It's like you faggots don't want a balanced diet of tasty grilled cheese and chicken toast sandwiches

>PS3 Grill

Is there a drip tray that I can drink out of?

it makes toast too? wow sony really is falling behind

let's hope consoles are like crusades and there's no more

It was part of the same generation, just saiyan.

>the basketball dribbles off
>rather than getting stuck at the corner between the rim and backboard

Bitch had one fucking job!

>720p bread
>1 slice
>no condiments

you should shop it better on your second thread

to be fair, the dreamcast was inbetween generations

Yes, but it wasn't in competition with Sega. It was only directly competing with the PS2 and Xbox.

No it wasn't. Dreamcast was the first and rushed to market before PS2. It fought fiercely with the PS2 and was dead by 2001.

i still cant believe its not in 1080p

1080p is like 10 years old now

>This is a ninth gen console.
No it's not
It's a mid-gen desperation attempt to stay relevant in a market that has long stopped caring about your products

I don't think the Pixel C sold that well. I remember when they were selling them at 25% right after launch.

>9th gen console
>can't even toast as fast as my 8th gen console

The screen ,or the games?

ok i agree with all that but i still think it was inbetween generations, it was only released 1 year after the n64

N64 was 1996, Dreamcast was late 98 in Japan and late 99 in America.

either

is nintendo going to make all their first party games in 1080p?

I think everything except BotW is 1080p.
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is confirmed to be 1080p.

fuck all these japanese and american release dates are confusing as fuck

Portability is a gimmick and there has never been a good video game on a handheld ever, and by extension, video games weren't good before smartphones and the eighth generation.

Angry Birds is a million times better than everything on the Game Boy, Game Boy Advance, DS, 3DS, PSP, Vita, and Switch combined because CAN ANY OF THOSE PLAY IN 1440P ON THE GO?

By that logic, it is impossible to make a handheld game good because handhelds don't have the gigaflops and megabits necessary to run the quantum AMD Tegra dualplexions required for powerful good games, and don't none of you nerds try to do your faggy science shit to try and correct millions of years of marketing research. If you don't agree with what we, the majority, think, you're obviously wrong you idiot. That's why we're the majority, because the majority means we're the smartest.

now we shoot for 4k! eh nintendo?

For good reason.
600 bucks gets you an absolutely top of the line mobile phone with usb c dock.
Literally no purpose in buying hardware that's as expensive and good as Apple with a google logo slapped on it.

Regardless, something had to launch first in the 6th gen, and Dreamcast was it.

It was a segmented generation, with Dreamcast in 98 in Japan, PS2 in 2000, and then Xbox and GameCube in 2001

Xbox and GameCube were both launched in late 2001, senpai. Only a month apart even.

>doesn't even turn on while not charging.

k

>Pulls out a gun and shoots you when you unplug it

>stopped being competitive since the wii
>the wii sold the most in that gen
wew

You mean the N3DS?

since, meaning after the wii

>let me just vomit hyperbolic versions of real criticism, that'll shut them up about my flawless console
user. Pal. What are you doing?

4K is like 10 years old, but that doesn't mean consumers are ready for the price even to this day.

We don't need a 1080p handheld, it isn't worth the cost. On top of paying a lot more for a 1080p screen, it drains battery really fast and generate a lot of heat, and we really don't need that. The small gap between 720p and 1080p is not worth reducing the battery by 30% or so and generating a lot of extra heat, on top of paying an extra $50 or so for the screen upgrade.

falsefagging

XBOX 360 is 240 GFLOPs
Wii u is 176 GFLOPs
Switch is 157 GLFOPs mobile and 386GFLOPS docked

>keyboard costs extra
>$150
>not even mechanical
fug

Yeah, so?

>power cord isnt even included in the packaging

The difference between the switch and ps4 is similar to the difference between a ps4 and a $700 PC (the same price once you've paid the good goy online fee)

All console generations prior to seventh gen were segmented.

>Third gen
1983: Famicom (aka the NES) and SG-1000 are both launched
1985: Sega Mark III (aka the Master System) is launched as the successor to SG-1000 (which could've been considered a new gen console if the SG-1000 wasn't a gen 2-tier JP-only obscurity)
Also a bunch other also-ran consoles, like Super Cassette Vision and Atari 7800 are launched as well

>Fourth gen
1987: PC Engine (aka TurboGrafx-16)
1988: Mega Drive (aka Genesis)
1990: Super Famicom (aka Super NES)

>Fifth gen
1993: Atari Jaguar and 3DO
1994: PlayStation and Saturn
1996: Nintendo 64

>Sixth gen
1998: Dreamcast
2000: PS2
2001: GameCube and Xbox

>Seventh gen
2005: Xbox 360 and Wii
2006: PS3

>Eighth gen
2012: Wii U
2013: PS4 and Xbox One

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

This.
Reminder that despite leaps in processor technology, battery tech has largely stagnated for the past decade or so.

The switch can do everything the PS4 can do.

But slowly, very slowly.
It's like a PS4 on weed.

Splatoon 2 is 720p

Okay, then answer me this. How does being portable, and therefore weaker than a non-portable device, make it bad? Has every handheld ever been bad because it wasn't as strong as the rest of its corresponding generation's hardware? Do the hardware limitations mean that good games can't be made on it? We already know that the hardware is between that of a Wii U and Xbox One (and yes, the Wii U was stronger than the PS3 and Xbox 360, even if it wasn't by a huge amount), so does that mean that only the PS4, Xbox One, and PC are capable of running good games? What does that say about every video game ever released before 2013?

The final version fucking not be.

Jesus Christ, stop

this is a 2017 sink
let THAT sink in

>he thinks the switch is as powerful as ps4 and xbone

Fifa is a port of the x360/ps3 version, and skyrim isn't skyrim special edition, just skyrim and also probably a port of the ps3/360 game. Switch is about as powerful as 7th gen which is still impressive for a portable, so stop memeing.

oops forgot the sink lol

They probably didn't did the desktop profile of the game yet, because if was actual performance issues, the game would choke like a bitch while on the mobile mode, not run at 60 fps deadlocked.

LOL ! XD

Of course we also need to remember this is discussion of the handheld screen only, as the console while docked IS 1080p capable.

With that in mind, asking for 1080p on the handheld version is especially moronic because on a 6.2 inch screen 720p to 1080p is a tiny fucking difference with 3 HUGE drawbacks (cost, power/battery, and heat).

shut the fuck up

>It's like a PS4 on weed.
No, this is PS4 on weed.
youtube.com/watch?v=QjFRF1I4Elw

looks like it has shit water pressure, would not buy

find me a 2 inch 3500 mah battery from 10 years ago

ROTFCOPTER!!1!

>Power
>ever mattering
>ever determining console generations

Console generations are determined by time, leaps in power were only coincidental.

Despite all the hybrid console claims, Nintendo is pretty much marketing the Switch as a home console you take with you rather than as a portable with HDMI OUT as an option. The fact of the matter is that it's literally replacing the Wii U by having ports of the same games, including a multiplat launch title.

They're keeping the 3DS around as their main portable, no doubt to serve as a fallback in the case the Switch fails.

Switch is in a weird position.
Without DX12 tier code running on it, it is indeed a bit basically a 1080p WiiU, as you can see with Mario kart 8.
With DX12 code, it can go even further beyond, but not as nearly as fast enough to run PS4/Xbone games, so you can't just go and copy paste games from those consoles on it.

The ideal usage of the device is to use 360/PS3 geometry level, bigger textures and DX12 tier effects, but mostly pixel based effects rather than geometry ones.
Pretty much just use UE4 but low polygon counts.

Why did you posted the nintendo switch trailer?

That's cuz the consoles you're thinking of run games at 20 Fps and most switch games are 60. Zelda excluded. But that looks about the same in terms of graphical complexity as the average ps3 game. Not aesthetics. Completely different. The complexity is similar.

Making the same strength battery slightly smaller without actually increasing capacity counts as "largely stagnated", user. Almost every other field of tech has made leaps and bounds. Reminder that 10 years ago computers were weaker in literally every spec that is used for gaming, by large amounts.