You know something... If the Switch is a success, I think the odds of Sony releasing their own portable console might be quite high.
Imagine this:
2019 >Switch has seen moderate success, but still has many flaws with battery life and lack of power >Sony announces new portable console >running an i5 with x86 architecture making it match the power of the PS4 vanilla >no gimmicks, just a simple console >no proprietary hardware >1080p screen >it uses an integrated account system across both it and the PS4 >thus it can play any PS4 games you already own on your library, and you PS+ subscription works for both consoles. >it can also connect with the PS4 to stream from it. >teases PS5, and connectivity between it and the new portable console >sold at $299 due to progress decreasing the price of technology
How would you react? Would you buy? How would Nintendo react in the face of fierce new competition.
Having access to the entire PS4 library right from the getgo is nothing to snuff at. And it boasting x86 architecture, and beefy power will make it easy to develop for. Anything made for the PS4, instantly carries over to this.
I know this is purely conjecture, but I can definitely see Sony taking one last crack at the handheld market if the Switch is successful. And seeing as how Nintendo failed to deliver a powerful portable device, instead opting for gimmicky and overpriced joycon controllers, I can see Sony pushing the more "raw power" angle they always have if they were to give it a go. Plus, with how they've set up the new PSN account system, I can definitely see them trying to go for cross platform thing similar to Steam, seeing as how you can already carry your PS4 library and account across multiple PS4's and they'll likely push the similar easy to dev for x86 architecture for the PS5 three years down the line.
Thoughts?
Austin Robinson
>No gimmicks >Portable
Wow.
David Butler
Yeah, sounds pretty amazing, doesn't it? i5 would make it quite powerful too.
Thomas Sanchez
mite be cool
competition is always a good thing
Easton Wilson
Nah, Sony is out. They are NEVER EVER gonna make a new portable.
Nicholas Gray
Why?
Easton White
Because they don't know how to handle portable platforms and because of mobile gaming.
Christian Evans
>no gimmicks >portable ps4
I'd buy it.
But they'll always ruin it, putting touch screen, accelerator, hd rumble, it would be too expensive because of all this shit and to buy it I'd have to get it used after 10 years.
Fuck I hate Sony man.
Thomas Hall
What do you mean they don't know how to handle portable platforms?
And if mobile gaming is an issue for Sony, then it's an issue for Nintendo as well.
I said in the OP that we're assuming the Switch is a success. Mobile gaming is the biggest obstacle the Switch has, and why it's likely to flop.
Alexander Watson
>portable x86 when will they make a device like that which doesn't lead to the owner's spontaneous immolation?
Jackson Thomas
x86 is a garbage architecture anyway, CISC is 90s technology the sooner we can abandon it the better
William Cruz
I'd buy it. But it'd never happen
Henry Hughes
But I'd only buy it if it were like:
>PLAY ALL PS4 GAMES >YOU DON'T NEED A PS4 TO STREAM SHIT >NO GIMMICKS >don't need the biggest resolution because portable >Has all the buttons that a ps4 controller has, also can be played with a ps4 controller via bluetooth >5 hours of battery at least >buy shit on PSN, download it to your portable console, can play it fine >NO PROPRIETARY MEMORY CARD
I'd buy it for 299 dollaridoos.
And then buy Bloodborne lol.
Cameron Hughes
>No gimmicks So, no sticks, no rear touchpad, no rumble, no touchscreen, no gyroscope, no motion control... Just buttons only? Some games would be impossible to be ported and go for switch.
To tell the truth, anythig but buttons is already too gimmicy.
Nicholas Jackson
whats the point if you cant connect to tv, the streaming from ps4 to vita is bad
Jayden Evans
Just look at Vita; great hardware, shit software support and no killer app. Memory card prices didn't help either.
Sony themselves said that with mobile gaming, the climate isn't good for a new handheld system.
Tyler Baker
>Ps4 portable
Enjoy your half hour battery life. Christ you fags complain the switch has a short battery life then you go and dream about shit like this.
Cooper King
why no sticks? sticks aren't gimmicks.
Adrian Young
There's no reason to make new hardware the Vita is already more powerful than the Switch undocked
Angel Thomas
I think they would wait a bit longer to release a V2 or just focus on mobile altogether
Liam Fisher
>Having access to the entire PS4 library right from the getgo is nothing to snuff at.
Bloodborne?
Ethan Adams
>this is what sonyggers actually believe
Landon Hughes
And yeah, I don't have a PS4, and won't buy one.
But this combo of PC + Portable is always what I go for on every generation.
I have a PC + N3DS + Vita right now, if Sony made something like this I'd buy it day one.
Hudson Gutierrez
Yes it is. We should have stay to first Dualshok style, with no rumble. Even half pressing buttons is something awfully gimmicy.
Tyler Wood
You might as well buy a fucking ps4
Ian Perry
Switch has low battery life because it's running Maxwell. Newer chips do better with energy consumption than older ones. The more you scale down, the better the power consumption becomes.
Switch would have had much better battery life had Nintendo gone with Pascal.
Ethan Sanders
You are a fucking retard.
Samuel Morales
So is pressing buttons in general.
Blake Williams
Spotted the Nintendrone.
Benjamin Brooks
indeed the battery life makes it impossible in this time frame unless there is a huge unexpected leap in efficiency or battery tech. wii u is around 40 watts while switch in portable mode is probably below 10 watts. ps4 slim is at around 80 watts and you suggest it decreases over 8 times in half the time frame the former decreased aboud 4 times...
Jose Morgan
>this fanfiction
Come on. Nintendo is already dying, you dont need to come up with bonus scenarios.
John Long
>sticks are gimmicks
Your troll would have worked if not for this
Christian Fisher
Not at all. I would need some of those gimmics for better aiming. FPS on controller is just awful and mouse for portable game is kind of... I will need to find a desk.
Levi Cruz
>Switch would have had much better battery life had Nintendo gone with Pascal. it would've been more expensive though
Oliver Reyes
>killer app
You don't play video games
Evan Smith
So... its not gonna happen then?
Bentley Bell
This whole post is sonygger autism.
Pack it in Tyrone, vita is dead.
Jackson Johnson
pascal isnt even released yet
James Roberts
Not if it dropped the gimmicky joycons and came with a regular controller. Those things are 90$ and NOT being sold at a loss. It's been confirmed that the Switch won't be sold at a loss. So you're paying 90$ extra for HDR and motion controls rather than better battery life and more power.
Camden Ross
>x86 ever being replaced
I will be very surprised if that happens.
Benjamin Gomez
>x86 with decent GPU
It would be awesome but impossible to do in that form factor.
Wyatt Allen
we dont know exactly how nintendo account works on switch it could be the same.
Camden Robinson
>running an i5 with x86 architecture making it match the power of the PS4 vanilla I'm sorry but are you just plain retarded? No handheld manufacturer these days uses anything but SoCs, intel's simply dont have the graphical power they'd need, they would never go that route.
Aaron Edwards
>no gimmicks, just a simple console >no proprietary hardware I am going to need you to be more specific. This won't happen either way. It will at the very least be like the Vita if not more than that. They might be able to cram in HD rumble and such aswell.
i5 thing makes no sense since PS4 doesn't use intel CPU's. Trying to get an intel CPU in a handheld seems quite stupid and bothersome. Trying to match PS4 specs with a handheld on the other hand now that seems fucking exciting. Imagine being able to play bloodborne on the go natively on the handheld device. Damn that would be sick.
Aaron Diaz
>no gimmicks, just a simple console Well... Playing overwatch would be pain in the ass. This problem would be solved by syncing PS move or dualshock 4 or mouse on it but it would turn vita2 less portable. Rear pad would help a lot for aiming stuff, better than the sticks.
Zachary Anderson
Same here. But I might buy a PS4, and it'd be perfect.
Owen Wright
Touch screen, accelerometer/gyro and HD rumble doesn't cost that much to put into any one device. Do you think your iphone is expensive because of any of that? That shit costs at best $19.99 per unit AT MOST. The only thing that costs something is the R&D that is needed for it. You can buy all 3 of those things for like $30 at consumer prices and use it with a raspberry pi or something.
Owen Ward
you need to let go user the vita had potential, but it failed
Nathaniel Nguyen
But the switch is running Pascal
Eli Smith
>it could be the same
How would that even work? Switch would be the first to integrate it, and it wouldn't be compatible with your previous Nintendo accounts, which has already been confirmed.
If you bought something on Wii, 3DS, WiiU, you're gonna have to rebuy it for Switch. Plus, WiiU/Wii architecture is incompatible with Switch.
Part of the reason I said x86 is cause that's what PS4 is, thus, making porting seamless.
Grayson Mitchell
[citation needed]
Hunter Hill
its running a customized tegra and therefore its neither pascal nor maxwell
Henry Wright
I'd like a vita 2 that was just a straight up serious console >l2 and r2 >l3 and r3 >better analog sticks >no touch pad gimmicks >no camera etc
Adam Parker
It just needs to match the PS3, be a bit more powerful honestly
I'd also be ok with a 720p screen if it's a handheld wit ha 5 inch screen.
Have the standard controller buttons, 4 face 4 shoulder buttons, then a touchscreen (like it or not it's better for searching for stuff) and basic gyro would probably be there aswell.
I think hoping for an affordable portable PS4 by 2019 is optimistic.
Isaiah Gomez
>Hurr he said app I have a Vita, It's just a term. Pokemon is a killer app, Monster Hunter is a killer app, however great it is, Gravity Rush wasn't a killer app.
Carter Walker
That name was a mistake though.
Cameron Lopez
I thought even Intel has given up on low-power x86 technology. It just not going to happen mate.
Ian Bailey
>I think hoping for an affordable portable PS4 by 2019 is optimistic
These are the people that shitpost our threads.
Mason Lewis
p screen >>PS4 level Oh boy I sure do love handhelds that both last an hour and a half between charges while also having a good choice to explode in my hand from the build up of heat
You're retarded as fuck OP
Adam Russell
You can bet your ass sony will copy whatever's popular. Also I hope this happens and that it costs like 500$ just to hear the same sonyggers who are shitting on the switch price tag claim that it's worth it. Also history will repeat itself and the more expensive more powerful handheld will fail like they always have.
Joseph Hill
Pokemon is the only thing that can be considered a killer app. Monster hunter is 3rd party and Capcom can always switch allegiances.
Evan Carter
Kek. Do some research, bucko.
Lucas Rodriguez
i researched a lot but did not find much about how the account works besides that it can use the existing one. especially they did not say anything about if you have to rebuy. also from wii to wii u it was rebuying but at a much lower price.
Evan Cook
>PSP >failed
I guess the 3DS did too, and so will the Switch considering both sold less than it.
Nathan Turner
Top fucking kek,PS4 portable 1 hour of battery life
Kevin Walker
Sony isn't retarded like Nintendo though. I guess newfags forget how everyone was initially excited for the Vita when it was announced with a $250 price tag because the 3DS was the same price yet had inferior cumbersome hardware.
Evan Gray
>And seeing as how Nintendo failed to deliver a powerful portable device
>my competitor is dominating the handheld market, and I'm dominating the console market >better make a handheld so I can have a brand new device to compete with the dedicated fanbase of the competitor's handheld!
Nathaniel Morales
None of Nintendo's portables have ever been powerful
Nathan Lee
Well compared to the DS it sure as hell failed. Nintendo always has the weaker handheld, yet they always come out on top.
Josiah Wright
Even in 2019, a portable with a i5 and 1080p screens will struggle with battery life. At $300 it would probably be literally half the battery life of the Switch.
Gavin Phillips
He's right tho.
Landon Morales
Yet it still outperformed. How pathetic the vita is.
Bentley Long
And the 3ds sold 60 million units while the vita struggled to do 10.
Cameron Miller
Except for the Switch. And I'm laughing if he thinks Sony will make the exact same mistake twice.
Isaac Hernandez
>compared to Yeah, that's not how it works buck-o
Compared to every Sony console Nintendo has failed for 2 decades straight then, if that's the case.
Oliver Perry
That didn't stop Sony from releasing the PSP when the game boy had the market cornered with 50+ million units sold.
There can be a market for portables but to compete with Nintendo, Sony has to be willing to fully support it by enticing the biggest 3rd parties to port some games over to their portable. But at this point in time, the only way portables will truly survive is if they are integrated into the existing mobile market like Android.
Nicholas Phillips
Nope the Wii outsold the ps3.
Landon Wilson
>muh 3ds sold gangbusters
After a heavy $80 price cut months after launch, you retarded mongs.
Jeremiah Thomas
And?
Jaxon Cooper
Switch is the most powerful portable tho
Xavier Wood
obviously the wii u software will not work automatically on switch just like ps3 software wont work on ps4. nonetheless both use the same account
Leo Nelson
FUCK YOU NO TOUCH SCREEN WHY FUCKING TOUCH SCREEN FUCKING AUTIST.
NO REAR SCREEN.
JUST CONTROLLER BUTTONS, ALL OF THEM, TO BE ABLE TO PLAY GAMES LIKE BLOODBORNE THAT USES THEM ALL.
FUCK.
720P
ALL THE BUTTONS
NO CAMERA, NO RUMBLE, NO GIMMICKS
I'D BUY IT IN A HEARTBEAT.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I USED THE CAMERA ON MY VITA/3DS? ZERO. HOW MANY TIMES I PLAYED A GAME THAT USED TOUCH SCREEN? ZERO.
FUUUUUUUUCK YOOOOOOOU.
I JUST WANT A PORTABLE PS4 FFS.
Ayden Clark
Regardless, it's still the better console compared to the vita. Don't be so salty that yours is collecting dust while millions upon millions still play their 3ds.
David Cox
And had the worst attachment rate. Yeah, good job.
My point is taht the success/failure of a console isn't subjective. You'd be a fool to suggest that the PS3 failed because the Wii sold better, when in truth, both were very successful consoles, AND the PSP outsold every Nintendo home console ever.
Julian Rodriguez
But still sold more :^(
Zachary Gonzalez
This is the gayest thing I've ever seen. You're such a pathetic fanboy that you're daydreaming of situations where Sony pulls a surprise turnaround in a market where they fuck up time and time again.
Sony fans, though.
Aaron Walker
>wii u 2.0 >success nice bait
Adam Foster
Yet no one bought Wii games outside of Mario and bundled shit like Mario Kart and Wii sports.
The whole point of a console isn't just to profit from selling them but to also sell games to the consumers. Can you really say that Nintendo won after their fanbase abandoned it and let the Wii u die out a miserable death?
Jason Murphy
>AND the PSP outsold every Nintendo home console ever. Wow a handheld outselling home consoles, such an achievement. It always gets a laugh out of me when retards say that the Vita sold more than the Wii U like it's an achievement.
Adrian Sanchez
>sold at $299 due to progress decreasing the price of technology Keep dreaming user.
Christopher Morris
>Sony isn't retarded
They're plenty retarded. This is the same company that dropped a 600 dollar console and used DISKS in a portable device. I don't think nintendo has ever been as retarded as Sony truly has with some shit. In fact, most of the things people praise them for are their correction of how retarded they were in the past.
Colton Johnson
Your bait is nicer, junior. :3
Dominic Nelson
>AND the PSP outsold every Nintendo home console ever. ...No it didn't.
Aaron Stewart
>i5 in a handheld Yeah not gonna happen. >no gimmicks >no proprietary hardware Sony can't make anything without doing these two things. >sold at $299 Not possible for the hardware needed or for the R&D if it were possible to get the powerful specs into that form factor. The battery life would also be garbage because x86 is not that great when it comes to energy efficiency. This is why ARM is in handhelds/tablets/phones and not x86. ARM chips also run a lot cooler.
TL;DR: OP knows absolutely nothing about tech, how business works, or what a jew sony and intel are. Basically this thread is all hopes, dreams, rainbows, butterflies, pussy farts. It's bullshit.
Henry Thomas
You're the one calling the PSP a failure.
Robert Wright
The Wii U has nothing to do with the success of the Wii, you're grasping.
Tyler Diaz
do you realize the switch is more powerful in docked mode and not too far away in portable mode?
Levi Martin
It was a failure from a software sales point of view.
Chase Bell
>$600 for a semi-powerful console with integrated blu ray that would have been hundreds of dollars as a stand alone blu ray players