Is it worth it to learn Japanese for all the untranslated video games that will never get brought over to the West? Would like to hear some experiences from actual Japanese learners on Sup Forums.
Pic related, it's a game that will never be in English.
Why do anime girls keep saying "kimochi"?
The pursuit of knowledge is always a wonderful thing. If you're motivation so you can play more games then I don't see why it would not be worth it
yes
it depends
will you alsow atch japanese animes
speaking maybe, but not reading or writing. japanese is cancer in that regard.
Unless by "games" you mean nukige, then no.
I stopped enjoying video games by the time I finished learning to read Japanese and the most all of the ones I play get translated a year later anyhow.
Because it's tasty as fuck.
Just for vidya, no. Do it so you learn something. I took a few years of Japanese in college, picked up the language pretty easily since the grammar's basically the same as Korean, but my motivation to continue my studies burned out after I started dedicating time to fitness and a future career.
Learning another language is a good life skill; don't waste it just to play vidya.
Yes, and is even better if you start translating them so others can enjoy them too.
i took japanese for 8 years through HS and college
it wasnt worth it
I can play through and understand japanese games but i have lost the patience for how redundant a lot of dialogue is
i love SRW but after playing and reading through the whole alpha and Z trilogies i just dont give a shit anymore
Listen to this guy
Good games get translated eventually.
You'll be able to play niche as fuck games if that's your thing.
The only problem is having no one to talk with them about.
Personally I found a game that I love but will never have anyone to talk about it with.
It's chinese electric indiana jones m.youtube.com
I'd say it's worth it
Will learning Japanese help me find out why she's so smug?
Not just to play video games, no.
I learned it while I was in the military because I was stationed in Japan for two years. It's great if you're actually using it to interact with locals and other people who speak it. But when I came back to the states I had no use for it at all. It doesn't even look that great on a resume since there are other languages more widely spoken in the US that employers would rather you know.
Don't devote yourself to learning a new language just to play video games. Your time can be much better spent on something else.
It was a fun hobby while it lasted. Now I'm back to wanting to kill myself
No, but it is worth it because you're expanding your mind as well as your world. By learning Japanese I met my current wife. You have nothing to lose by pursuing knowledge
it's not worth it, as translation tools become more available whatever effort you do will be easily replaced by single app in a matter of years.
Nip is too much trouble for what you'll get. even after a year you'll have a very limited understanding of the language, I would only encourage training if I was you're going to do scanlation or something like that, you know helping the spread the good to the people of the world, not just to fap some loli VN where the story is stupid as fuck (it is).
Plus all the people I know that actually learned japaneese are weirdos. When I was in the anime club at the uni, some much older guy approached us (we were like 16-20 he was like 36+ and already had a ton of grey hair) he had done some fansubs himself for sailormoon movies and what not. We hanged out a few times, and then he started asking one of the artsy guys in our group to draw him musuclar women wearing skimpy anime outfits. He got weirded out and did some shitty drawings for him just to get him off his back, the older guy got offended and just stared at us from affar since then. I'm pretty sure he was a virgin living with his mom and non of his co workers liked him.
Don't be that guy, spend your time learning something more productive and preferably profitable, programming, 3d sculpting, digital drawing, heck learn japaneese cuisinee and sell fucking sushi or whatever, but don't waste 2 years learning some retarded ass language to watch cartoons and vg's. If you're going to do it for porn games like monobeno.... come on what can't you understand?
>motto motto, onichain ochinchin daisuki~~~ yamette kudasai, oshiri dame, yamero baka! rori manko atsukashiiii~~~ anhhh anata watashi wa mohaya kodomode wanai, ikuuu ikuu ikuuuuuuuuuuuuuu~~
Japanese video games are bad so no. Learn a useful language instead.
This, the fucking expats in Japan were weird. I regretted ever going there, they're the most autistic weirdos you'll ever meet.
T. Couldn't learn japanese
Long post ahead
I started to learn japanese because I wanted to play Sakura Wars initially, the translation was going slow as fuck and I said fuck it, I'm learning moons.
After searching and trying different methods (apps, cards etc..) I stumbled this guy
youtube.com
His method really worked for me and in a month I was proficient with hiragana and katakana (extremely basic stuff but important), so I'd say start with that.
Then I wondered where to go next? that's when I found this guy making free (at the time) really good explanations of how a japanese sentence is made, differences between the tone, etc .. and out of all of the beginner teachers I found online, he was the best for me (he has a premium shit now but at least goes into more in details, you can try it for a month or so I think)
yutaaoki.com
Now, after a while of learning some jap I not only discovered that there is much more than vidya to be enjoyed in the japanese medium, I would add, mini web series like this one (yes it's shit but I'm a weeb anyways), doing live watches of new jp shows, watching raw episodes of gaki, jav plots make more sense now, and overall get more involved in the stuff I like the most, which is weeb stuff.
youtube.com
So TL,DR I would say it's worth it if you are a weeb and want more jp shit in your life, otherwise no.
>atlus
Good taste
There's a reason that VN will never ever be translated.
If you want to read it that badly, then yes, learn Japanese, because that's going to be the only way you're gonna be able to read that. I wouldn't bother waiting for an English translation, it's not gonna happen.
Is she naked?
trying to learn japanese for lolige is tempting. anyone here successfully do it?
Gets boring fast.
Started with lolis, now I'm into boys pretending to be lolis.
Don't do japanese, kids.
>boys pretending to be lolis
hey now, you can't leave me hanging like this... share some love
better start those jp lessons then
>boys pretending to be lolis.
Patrician taste, my friend
Not just for vidya. Not saying that learning something new isn't useful, but if it's just to play few games then you could probably use few years of studying something more useful.
It's fairly easy language except the reading and writing part. Learn 3k moonrunes to just read newspaper. Damn.
if you have fun actually learning it and don't care just about the final result, go for it...not like it's going to be more of a waste of time than spending thousands of hours playing video games.
from experience, about 2 - 3 years of study is more than enough to understand most games in Japanese.
Monobeno in particular is pretty easy.
Characters in dialogue DO repeat information a lot, its kind a nuance of the language to show that you're paying attention to who's speaking. I can understand why it might get grating after awhile. There was a lot of it in Fates when I played though.
Speaking it is easy enough. But I hit a brick wall when it came time to learn kanji. There's so many characters and unless you're making a career of it I can't say the return on time invested would be worth it.
not having to give a shit about terrible localization choices is a nice plus
where is that picture of the little girls saying you can't learn japanese?
>36
>ton of grey hair
are you fucking retarded
WHY DON'T MY PORN GAMES RUN WELL ON LINUX?
If video games really mean that much for you, go for it.
I would love to play multiple untranslated games or even import games before they are released here, but I'm way too lazy to bother and I've tried multiple times.
>it's the uploader ripped every single face variation of a pic and uploaded them all to exhentai episode
and it happens every time
it's not worth the effort waste your life idling on vidya boards and playing meme infested translated jrpg instead.
I thought that, then I learned Japanese and now I mostly understand and appreciate the localization choices.
OP, it's not worth becoming fluent just for playing offline noncompetitive commercial games, there are too many of those to ever run out of amazing ones you can play in English. If you're not already interested in the language for other reasons, I'd hold off unless I wanted to get deeply into the indie scene (where the games don't require much Japanese but you basically have to go buy them in person, most stuff doesn't even get ripped!) or into the online scene for something (rhythm games and fighters that aren't SF are big, I personally went from year 2 of college classes to fluent enough to be hired as a translator off the back of poopsocking a Japanese MMO for a few years.)
Oh, or arcades, if you happen to be rich enough to waste your life. Which ties into rhythm and fighters, although when I'm in Japan and on days off I spend most of my time on MOBAs since you can sit there smoking all day rather than becoming a sweaty mess or having to swap out for a new challenger.
are Japanese girls cute and worship baka gaijins? or they're cruel and ugly with crooked teeth?
Recommended? Not really.
I keep at my studies because I've already done so much work over the years and have little else to do while I'm at work.
Being able to increase comprehension and read content is nice but I always feel like I never know enough to have any confidence in my knowledge. I always feel illiterate.
There is something to be said for not relying on staggered releases and being subject to bad translations or censorship, but that only goes so far.
Not helping matters is knowing that the Japanese basically think all non-Japanese people are retarded and/or should kill themselves.
Regardless, you won't be able to do it half assed. Prepare to devote several years to study or don't bother.
You people need to stop posting Monobeno on this board. It just leaves me craving
>I wouldn't bother waiting for an English translation, it's not gonna happen.
That's what they said about Dies Irae
And any game by Clock Up, especially Maggot Baits. Nobody ever thought that would even have a West release
And don't forget Kouen Itazura Simulator ver. MAKO
But look where we are now man. Look where we are.
Behold
If you have a game(s) that you really wanna play and it's not translated then yes. Otherwise, I doubt you would use japanese that often. I learned both english and japanese for that reason and it was worth it, but then again, it was because I wanted to play specific games.
yeah but then there's shit like subahibi that's "coming soon ™" since 2012 or whatever.
They actually say "kimochi ii", which means "feels good".
No.
Go grab Chiitrans or ATLUS. Those work fine as long as the program running the game isn't trash.
>ayy lmao user, I spent 10 years learning japanese b-but it's not worth it!!!
Literally worse that faggots that play games for 90 hours and then say it's shit
God damn it, they look good, but pixelated dicks aren't really a turn on.
Stupid japan, get a perv president already to change your retarded laws.
Subahibi was just a mistake
>Machine translations
Gross
Can someone draw this dumb smug cunt being brutally raped for me please?
For science!
I went through learning Japanese at a VERY half-assed pace. Took me about 10 years in total. I only really studied during the summer when I had a break from school, and during the year sometimes in small bursts like 1 week of catching up with what I forgot, 1 week of actual studying, burning out, 6 months break. I'm not shitting you. If I was serious about doing it I could have done it at 1.5-2 years.
Anyway, I would say it's worth it. It gave me a lot of good memories and saved me from endless heartache of not being able to play/read what I want. I play some vidya in Japanese but I mainly use it for reading VNs. I finished Utawarerumono 2-3 a month ago, along with Baldr Sky a year ago I would say it was worth it for those games alone. Can't wait to discuss them with my EOP friends once they get translated.
Well-worded, user.
Learning another language is ALWAYS a good time investment, as long as it's not just for vidya.
People become more trusting when you speak to them in their native tongue, ladies dig the accent, and it'll look great on your resume. If you genuinely enjoy the language, learn it. If it's just for a few vidya, don't bother.
It's worth it for eroge, probably not for general video games. Eroge is too niche and large of a pool of games for even a sizable portion of the worthwhile titles to receive translations.
The localization rate of other video games is way higher, so the benefit of knowing Japanese would mostly just be playing games sooner.
Once you grow out of video games and realize how much of your life was wasted, thinking "at least I learned a new language in the process" might help alleviate the your crippling depression. That's what I heard.
>how much of your life was wasted
Yeah I could have done so much more productive things like watching TV or drinking in bars like normal people do.
I'm learning Japanese, I study everyday. I only started to learn because of anime and visual novels but I quickly began to meet Japanese people through language exchange websites and apps online and ended up continuing more for the purpose of communicating with friends and for the joy of actually getting a little better everyday than for the games or anime. Learning any foreign language is a very enjoyable way to spend your time and will leave you feeling more fulfilled than video games. I highly recommend it.
Games and anime are a good motivation to get your foot in the door but if that's truly all that has you going a couple hundred hours into studying the language, your motivation will die out. Like most people it is likely you will be motivated by the joy of learning something that has a definite reward in the future, and the motivation to communicate with new Japanese friends you will make. Good luck!
>When your dick forces you to learn a new language
Depends on how much you'll use it. For the sake of just vidya, it's probably not a great idea.
For porn alone though, it's worth it. Then you add on all the actual entertainment, like manga, TV, VNs, novels, etc, and it becomes a really worthwhile investment.
name 2 things your dick doesn't force you to do
>Tfw going to Tokyo next month and only know a few words from my anime
At least I'll know when to say YAMARO
1.Play video games
2.Draw
Wow that was ultra hard
>spend as much time studying Japanese as you spend eating cheetos and jerking off
>get to understand every anime, every japanese movie, every manga, every LN, every website, every video game, etc
Of course it's worth it fucktard.
Funny, those are the two things my dick forces me to do the most.
That doesn't mean what you think it does
>every anime
literally like 95% of all anime is already translated by some neckbeard weirdos who waste their life translating shit for free, and if it isn't it's probably shit.
>japaneese movies
Similar to the above, if it ain't translated is mostly shit.
>every manga
There's sooooo many mangas, like what you want to read fucking shonen jump on the bus or something? why would you ever want to read every single manga, first of all it's literally impossible, and you already have most of the relevant ones available.
>every LN
Wow I really need to know why Fukuhito san inserted his dick inside Watanoha sama, and what those words between the moand really mean.... and the super sad story about their dog going missing and some other really poor budget made up drama just to justify a plot in some porn game.
>every website
well that's pretty broad, if you are some turbo weeb who actually needs to know what some nips are talking about and machine translation isn't enough... well it could be worth it, but honestly nips are super dumb and super casual, and super awkward and super xenophobic any minor mistakes speaking their language is frowned upon and you'll get ignored and ostracized
>every video game
unless you mean like some niche as fuck RPG that was never translated (Moon adventure remix) you don't need to learn nip just to use menus, fucking videogames are easy as fuck, you press a button an you punch, you press another button and you jump. There's so many videogames to play... how can you run out of games to the point that you need to learn a language just to play more of them.
And most important of all, the time you'll spend studying japaneese, it's less time you'll spend watching anime, playing vidya, reading mango, lurking forums, etc. You'll realize later how valuable that time was, and regret doing it when you stop practicing and all those lessons fade into thin air.
Only learn it if it makes you money, or gets you consensual sex.
EOP detected
It doesn't matter if they are translated. Experiencing the original version is twice as fun. Most good jokes can't even be translated, and the rest of the game is butchered by SJW localization team.
>LN
>Porn game
You were so close
Do you really want to know the truth, user?
>don't learn japanese do this other thing instead
>end up not doing either and continue forever as a loser Sup Forumstard
who else is doing that
if "video games" includes VNs, then sure
it takes less than a year to get good enough to read manga/vns with the occasional kanji lookup
Why the fuck are these anime girls so Fucking smug about everything!?
sorry had a brain fart, I have one of those, it's those manga books without drawings right? my dad bought me one about shanoa.... still why the fuck do you need to read those fantasy books, they don't even have porn.... like that's super high tier weebdom, if I wanted to learn more about goku, or toradora or whatever I could just use my imagination.
If I was a cute anime girl I'd be pretty smug too user
Do you really have no idea how much anime and manga doesn't get translated/scanlated at all, and if it does, it's decades after it was first released? Even today, when supposedly everything gets translated, there are still manga that go months without a single chapter update. "If it's good it gets translated" isn't true, because there's plenty of garbage that gets translated. It is literally entirely dependent on either what the localizers think will sell or what scanlators want to work on.
It's less if it's good and more if it's popular.
In less than a year your translation quality will still be worse than machine translators. Unless you go the AJATT way and spend 16 hours on Japanese only.
Reasonably it takes around 2 years before you can actually start enjoying what you read.
No shit, the point is there are tons of great series that either weren't translated, were translated poorly, or were only partially translated and if you have enough interest in shit like anime and manga you might as well spend some time every day studying the language so in a few years you'll be able to have access to pretty much anything regardless of it's translation staus.
Who wants to became a loli?
I was agreeing with you user
i learned japanese for vidya manga and anime, and i couldnt imagine my life without knowing the language
What would you do if you were?
Do you really need to sacrifice like 1/10 of your life to read those obscure mangos? like would it really make your life much more enjoyable to understand those? I mean if the already translated manga, anime and videogames isn't enough for you, I think you probably have enough time to learn 3 more different languages then and not just japaneese. I love all the japaneese merch, but honestly how much can you read without it becoming repetitive, it's all pretty drawings telling the same stories over and over and over again.
Again I'm not saying that's wrong doing it, but having no better motive than self entertainment sounds like a huge waste, when there's so many sources of similar level to procrastinate. I mean if you're like that user who became an mmo translator, or used the language to marry some nip loli, or the language helps you to interact with japaneese natives that are too stupid to learn english... then sure, but I strongly doubt the you'll get your time investment back just by reading obscure mangos UNLESS YOU ABSOLUTELY GET ERECTIONS READING NON PORN MANGOS.
>chinese electric indiana jones
whats up with japs and making chinese electric versions of western characters
Is it harder than English? For non-native speaker, of course. I'm sure there's someone who knows 3 languages.
I hate weaboos so god damn much.
Pic related ofc.
And shitpost on Sup Forums posting photos.
Is this cowboy bebop?
>is it harder than english
>language with its own alphabet
gee i dunno
I imported rhythm heaven, mh4, mhx, smash, taiko drum rpg, and a ton of other games since I have a JP 3ds. It's been fun in expanding my intermediate level japanese understanding and playing titles way earlier than western release (or some that never come over).