>Giant Bomb, one of the most popular gaming websites around >Jeff, Brad, Drew, Jason, Vinny, Alex, Dan, plus a handful of people in the background doing marketing and support stuff >5 or 6 Quick Looks a week, where they play each game for 30 minutes to 1 hour. >3 or 4 livestreams where they play games for two hours each >2 podcasts that run for 1 hour and a half to 3 hours >That's it
What the fuck do they do all day, Sup Forums? That seems like an awfully low amount of content for a week, considering they have two offices with people 'working' full time. I'm a journalist and I alone produce more content for my newspaper every week than all of them combined, no joke. And the content isn't "playing games". Just curious.
Anyone else wonder what these guys and the average "gamer youtuber" do all fucking day?
This isn't a 'gaming celebrity' thread, by the way, just a place to discuss a facet of the gaming industry.
Jeff makes phone calls to devs to get copies and deals with CBS corporate bullshit all day.
Not sure about the rest.
Chase Fisher
they play games no, really, it's their job to play video games all day
Jason Baker
>tfw play vidya for free
Gabriel Ross
If they were producing 6 or 7 reviews per week, I'd understand, since games usually take 9~10 hours to finish, but they only do like two a month at best and most of them are Dan's.
Henry Edwards
Well, they made up for it by doing 10 hour long streams when each new VR platform came out. That was actually pretty good coverage from them.
Angel Davis
Do you really think that "makes up" for the lack of content overall?
Anyone else here is a premium user of GB? Are you satisfied? Curious to see what premium users feel.
Isaac Robinson
I guess Monday is spent on meetings and coming up with content. Brad does nothing. I guess Tuesday is spent recording and podcasts, Brad checks Neofag and news sites for 5 minutes to pull news for the podcast. The rest of the week is a blur. Brad does nothing.
Eli Murphy
I was for two years, but haven't been for a while. I'll probably start pitching back in now that Dan is contained to the East.
Landon Moore
Yet they seem terribly uninformed about so many games.
It sounds more likely they deal with talking to people in the industry through emails and shit and going to preview stuff to get info on games yet most either gets canceled or they just fail to pick up what these people are telling them.
Nolan Lee
Enjoy your even less West content.
Robert Young
What about
>Game Tapes >This Is the Run >GBW Playdate >Jar Time >Jeff home gayman >drew metal gear >navaro mega man
But you are right the content is getting weak.
Robert Flores
they dont work mondays
Isaac Diaz
Ranking of Fighters, comfy Elite Dangerous stream, Demo Derbies, fun quick looks. All without Dan. It's much better now.
Jaxon Thompson
>comfy Elite Dangerous stream Drew should stop playing video games and get behind the camera. At least Rorie knows thing or two about video games.
Brayden Morales
1 Ranking and Derby every 3-4 months. Wonderful.
Lucas Barnes
Well going by your metrics, lets say they do 6 QL a week. Those are usually an hour+, so we'll go safe and assume they're an hour each. Thats 6 hours. Plus 2 podcasts that are at least 2 and a half, so thats 9, and your "3-4 livestreams" would make it ~15 hours minimum, per week that they put out. 15 hours of video content a week seems pretty good?
How are you quantifying you "producing more content ... every week than all of them combined?"
This also makes no mention of any time they spend in meetings, planning live streams or QLs, or doing miscellaneous stuff on the business side.
It seems like you're making their job out to be that they do nothing but play video games and how they don't even do that enough for you.
Adrian Scott
Where the hell is the RE7 quick look? Game is out and everything...
Andrew Cooper
>First hour of last UPF is spent looking at youtube and twitter clips while Brad tries to get 1000 xbox 360 achievement points.
Angel Bailey
And it ends up with Brad failing to boot the game and not getting the achievement. I was pissed to say the least considering its 2AM here when they do UPF
Andrew Wood
>durr how can a cat be alive and dead at the same time? scientists are so stupid xDDDD look at me being silly on purpose So wacky! Not even Vinny can make Dan tolerable.
Brandon Kelly
>Goes to East. >Instantly comes up with a new series that's easy to do and produces regular content. >Has come up with most of the new content since he arrived Honestly what's stopping the rest of the guys from coming up with stuff? Just play through some shorter games they want to play but missed out on or ANYTHING are they so disinterested in video games?
Samuel Gray
Thank fucking god Dan is not with Jeff anymore. >Dan:I was reading about quantum mechanics during breakfast >Dan:Its funny how people use made up words from Star Trek into real life science Needless to say I rolled my eyes
Josiah Harris
>Uuuh, I didn't try every button on the controller but this is obviously not working, I also couldn't find a map even though I didn't try every button on the controller. Go over to where the fun is? N-nah.
Robert Ramirez
>comes up with a new series that is 30-45 minutes of him having autism any time a bullet appears on screen and fucking up in Contra
yeah dude A+ content, this is what i want
Camden Lee
Um they have a massive amount of articles and reviews they put out a week, plus they stay cozy with a lot of different developers so keeping those relationships stable probably takes some time. Also CBS bullshit.
Well what's stopping the other guys from making better content then if Dan's stuff is so shitty?
Jonathan Wood
No one actually wants to work 40 hours a week.
Brandon Campbell
Thanks user. Finally some content besides UPF. Have some bitches
Logan Collins
>massive amount of articles and reviews
what? the last game that got reviewed before RE7 was CoD. they have their freelance thing but thats about it.
Julian Gomez
...
Jonathan Gomez
You know what I find funny?
You can always tell the ones that complain about "what do they do all day" and whatnot have no fucking clue how long editing stuff takes and how much of a pain it is to record stuff with multiple systems and equipment.
Lucas Wilson
I take your silence as an answer.
Jayden Hughes
Except the number of QLs has reduced over time to make room for the live streams. I would prefer them to cover more recent games like they used to than these streams of playing old games. Unless the old games were more interesting to actually watch someone else play.
Cooper Ward
Why do people still care about game reviewers? If a game has no demo, you judge it with a longplay and if it looks fun to you, you get it.
You don't need a failed journalist to tell you what to play, they don't even play what they recommend.
Parker Bailey
Dan takes all the time up with his shit and he probably gets his way all the time with his autistic complaining that he has somehow managed to do through his whole live.
Connor Myers
They're busy recharging from Trump's inauguration and marching and preparing for PAX and planning for E3 and how to recharge after E3 and what nu-male to hire next.
Owen Anderson
I wouldn't really say thats the case. The amount of QLs just fluctuate.
What do you think people use Quick Looks for? Its to see if they like the game without paying for it.
Also your whole failed journalist bit is really dumb.
Jaxson Russell
Jeff is the only person whos opinion I seriously consider. He is OG and there is nothing more to it.
Juan Barnes
They're still getting used to the new office. Once Ryan comes back they'll speed up on making content. Stop being so entitled, gosh.
John Johnson
>It's a "Rorie talks loudly about shit no-one cares about over the top of every cutscene and spoken dialogue" episode
I DON'T FUCKING CARE WHAT RESTAURANT YOU FRIEND WENT TO OR WHAT THE DIRECTOR OF SOME RANDOM MOVIE'S NAME IS.
Jason Martinez
I thought you were going to say that they do more than most after your greentext
Seems a fair amount to me desu
Camden Wilson
Can't you salty fucks stay in your quarantine chat?
Landon Wood
depending on their style a youtube 'gamer' can spend around 2 hours playing a game and 3 hours editing shit in order to produce a couple 10-20 min videos
Jacob Ramirez
Except for when he gets really pissy about games where he found one single mechanic not to his liking so then that means that game is garbage while some other really flawed game is the best game ever.
Bentley Allen
Except the Giant Bomb audience generally want their videos unedited. Vinny tried to edit the KSP videos he was doing and people went ape shit so the later episodes were unedited.
Brandon Smith
But to do want to look at pictures of cute animals for 20 minutes?
Joshua Flores
>>Giant Bomb, one of the most popular gaming websites around literally never heard about them other than seeing someone posting about them here, tried watching one of their streams but it was hidden behind some fucking paywall
Carter Rogers
Sure but the entire point of the quick look format was so they didn't have to spend hours editing video and could just put it up wholesale.
Wow weird how opinions work isn't it?
Dylan Taylor
watched drew's mg rising thing
jesus fuck how do you go the whole game without learning how to parry or use the dodge mechanic, or lock on, or anything
Kevin Anderson
At least you can detect when Jeff is wrong and disregard it on that game,he keeps it real most of the time.
Jayden Mitchell
>watched drew's mg rising thing If you did then you'd know Dan explicitly told him over and over again that he doesn't need to know how to parry or anything like that and the reason Drew played on Easy is because Dan played on Easy because he didn't want to learn the mechanics.
David Parker
>hidden behind some fucking paywall
use VLC
Jackson Turner
I'm saying that none of their videos have enough production value to require much planning behind. They don't have scripted shows like The Final Bosman or shit like it where they need to actually write content or research. They don't have to rehearse things either.
What's the planning behind Quick Looks other than a "hey, let's record a video of us playing games" and an e-mail with one paragraph to a developer before that to ask for codes (that's being generous, since most of the time they're sent codes before they ask)?
What's the planning behind UPFs other than "hey, I'll bring game X, what game will you bring"?
What's the planning behind the podcasts other than "hey, show up at this time so we can record, I just grabbed 5 or 6 news and 4 or 5 e-mails to read"?
All of this can be done in one or two hours in a monday, which is what I assume they do. What they do after that, since they don't review games often? I'm comparing that to the work I do alone at a newspaper because my work actually requires hours of research, phone calls, writing, reading, recording, interviewing, meetings, listening to said interviews over and over again etc to produce content. And it's very manageable. I really do feel like our readers / viewers are getting what they're paying for.
All I'm saying is that I think GB is shortchanging their premium users, that's why I asked if they feel satisfied with the content GB puts out. I feel like I could count on one hand the number of gaming websites that actually seem to be producing an appropriate amount of content for the number of employees they have. To me, it feels like they've discovered people care mostly about their personalities and will endure droughts of content because they like them, despite paying for a monthly sub.
Jose Garcia
Youtubers autistically cut their videos every few seconds to cut out any moment they took a breath.
Giant Bomb videos have practically no editing. Even a Twitch streamer might cut out bits of their stream for Youtube videos. Giant Bomb dump their stream archives as is.
Jeremiah Nelson
you know
i can understand most of them being bad at video games, or just bad at video games they have no interest in (so the majority of them)
but i'm surprised their staff doesn't have a single wunderkind who's just good at shit
Gavin Butler
>no jeff WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT
Landon Jenkins
>no fucking jeff
Adrian Gutierrez
So the interviews and phone calls and research and stuff that you do, you don't think any single part of that happens for them either? Its all just single paragraph emails asking for codes and doing whatever for a live stream?
I wonder why you're so willingly downplaying how much work they do and where all this comes from?
If you think they're shortchanging Premium users than okay, thats fine. But all these leaps of logic to say "Well they only do 1-2 things and then sit around all day seemingly doing nothing, their job must be easy!" is pretty crazy.
Liam Lopez
Look at the amount of content Dan was putting out during the Game Informer days.
Now look at the amount of content Dan is putting out at Giant Bomb. It's clear they don't really care about producing anything of value at GB.
I seriously don't know why anyone would pay them for a monthly subscription.
Robert Perry
Is Jeff a wizard?
Sebastian Perry
>the rapman >the realest motherfucker in video games >a wizard LMAO
Lucas Cooper
Please, tell me about the difficulties of editing a 1 hour long video that doesn't need anything to be cut other than a starting point and ending point. There's already a guy working the camera live during the shows and quick looks.
You know what's funny? People excusing their laziness and praising their "hard work" and "crazy amount of content" in December, when they actually sort of work. For a week. Before going on a second yearly vacation for 3 weeks.
If their work is "sooooo hard", "just like a real joooob", how do they manage to do it in December, near GotY time?
Nicholas Diaz
I miss her
Caleb Hall
This. I think they'd have a stroke if they actually had to work in the real world, with no weeks of 'recharging' and weeks of 'preparing' for stuff that really doesn't need that much preparation. I think they got burnt out during the Gamespot days and simply don't want to work anymore. Don't know why people pay them, honestly.
Brayden Murphy
>>durr how can a cat be alive and dead at the same time? scientists are so stupid xDDDD Do you realize that this is the actual meaning of the schroedinger's cat experiment? It's a criticism of the Copenhagen interpretation, it's meant to be absurd.
You are all retards, both you and Vinny/Alex. Especially Alex who tried to shut up Dan about Schroedinger's cat when Dan actually demonstrates that he understands the paradox better than him.
Carson Gutierrez
>Persona 4 Endurance run-era Giant Bomb will never come back
Colton Davis
How long did they take to prepare that NY office again? It felt like a year and a half without those guys producing meaningful content. Hell, they still don't, but at least it's more than the 'established' West crew.
Logan Morgan
>durr how can a cat be alive and dead at the same time? scientists are so stupid xDDDD But that was Schrodinger's entire point when he first published the paradox.
Samuel Morales
Just like Vinny's hair.
Sebastian Sullivan
This is a great thread where OP just wants to shout into a hugbox about how much he hates GB for some reason.
Great thread OP, I'd give you reddit gold if I could.
Noah Flores
Well, you can see the amount of research, phone calls, interviews and stuff a journalist does in the content they produce, if they're professionals. You may say you don't like their content or even that it could be better, but you can see that things weren't simply didn't appear out of thin air.
Do you see research, phone calls and other behind the scene stuff in GB's Quick Looks, UPFs, podcasts? 80% of the time they don't even know the fucking american retail price of the games they're showing, when they're new.
I'm genuinely curious, do you really think there's a lot going on behind the scenes at GB? They don't do previews (which are actually some of the stuff that would require tons of phone calls), they do one or two reviews a month, if that, they're constantly mailed codes for games.
Schrödinger's cat thing is retarded though >muh theoretical physics Fuck off desu, just because you don't know something doesn't mean it becomes a sum of all possibilities
Thomas Campbell
>Photon is a made up word because it is in Star Trek
Xavier Nguyen
The joke is that the joke is not funny, because that is literally the meaning behind the experiment. No matter how many times I say "if gravity is just theory then why apple fall though", that's not going to make it funny.
Jacob Hughes
no, she literally works at twitch
Nolan Barnes
Electrons form an electron cloud because you can't really know where they are at any given time.
Bentley Thompson
>It is the episode where the video producer explains grammar to the writers.
Alexander Richardson
What's the point when Mike Rossington doesn't work at Twitch anymore.
Levi Cook
That just means the sponsor is twitch.
Asher Moore
>okay, guys, let me say my piece here >this game is absolutely amazing >but I don't think it hangs
Andrew Mitchell
I don't even mind his dumb opinions that much. He's just so fucking boring.
Levi James
I PLAYED MEGA MAN THIS WAY AS A KID SO SHUT UP. SHUT UP I NEED TO CONCENTRATE AAAARGH
Camden Campbell
>we can't let this game be the most disappointing even though it's the most disappointing to send a message to the online trolls!!!!! >we need to send a message that we don't support white supremacists by choosing Palmer Luckey as the worst thing that happened this year!!!!!!
Andrew Perry
Cop Knife and the one about having a vanful of kids are great
Dominic Price
>just wanted to throw this out here
Gabriel Flores
Better than my game no one else give a shit about has to be on the list.
So many games in the past that everyone enjoyed to a degree aren't even really debated because they have to drop it get the guy who is going to have some autistic fit if their special game doesn't get on.
Elijah Lee
never seen this much incompetence
Jose Lopez
Yet when GOTY stuff comes around they've barely played anything, despite having access to all games on all platforms for free with an excuse to play them. Now, if it's an 80 hour rpg I get it but the fucking 5-20 hour games they ignore are ridiculous, especially when those include some of the biggest games of the year. Set aside some fucking time, goddamn.