FUCK EVO

>No Melee on Sunday
>But we get Tr4sh and Gayzblue
I'm so fucking pissed. I think it's time to boycott this shit.

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>Melee
>4 viable characters with the same matchup on the same stage every damn time

>Smash 4
>More than half of the cast is viable, creating a tournament that's actually fun to watch

I don't see the problem.

>surprised that one of the sponsors (Nintendo) wants their latest game highlighted at EVO

>Melee
>Dynamic, interesting system with characters that are unique and complex to play, creating a game that is constantly evolving and never gets old

>Tr4sh
>Casualized dog shit watered down to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

The roster isn't as diverse as you think especially at a major as big as Evo. It only seems diverse because when one of the top players isn't at a tournament the game's simplicity and jank factor allows for lower tier characters to win. In melee its a lot more difficult.

Also smash 4 is just boring as fuck to watch anyways save for certain characters. Shiek is not only not fun to play against but boring to watch too.

Then run it on Saturday. Melee always gets the most views and the most players, I don't know who the fuck thought this was a good idea. Leffen was right.

>seeing different 3d models means the game is more diverse to watch regardless of gameplay depth
>when in reality a lot of fox mains have different playstyles and the players are more interesting than the character storyline wise

so is the best fighting game the one with the most varied backgrounds?

Don't bother. Tr4shfags are convinced that what makes a game good is who the characters are and muh content. One character in Melee probably has more diversity and depth than the entire Tr4sh roster put together.

>smash
>fighting game

Literally pick one

No one cares about your 16 year old game

Bring back 3rd Strike or KoF 98

Melee is objectively better and more complex than both of those games.

Kek

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Melee is probably the most complex and technical fighting game ever made. No other game demands as much execution to be at the top level, and the unique character and stage interactions that result from it don't exist in any other game. I'm not saying that 3rd Strike or KoF aren't complex and technical, they just aren't as much as Melee.

>Melee is objectively better than Third Strike and KoF98

>Melee is probably the most complex and technical fighting game ever made.

Those games don't have
>The presence of unique stages that drastically alter the playing field and the matchup
>Unique movement options limited only by your execution
>A free flow combo system where anything works as long as you have the skill and the spacing to pull it off
>The ledge and offstage interactions creating a whole new set of mindgames
>New mechanics being discovered and explored decades after their release

No doubt, those games are easily the best entries in their respective franchise, but they don't compare to Melee. Nothing does.

>>Dynamic, interesting system with characters that are unique and complex to play, creating a game that is constantly evolving and never gets old

melee doesnt even have kara canceling nor charge partitioning. melee doesnt have parries either.

and these are basic third strike techniques which are more "difficult" than your gay melee wavedash tech.

This is a lot of faggotry in one post. I really wish Meleeshitters would just fuck off

>Melee
>combat literally descended from the gods and given form so that pleb humans can compete in something worthwhile while they live out their worthless lives

>smash 4
>a false idol that can only ever give a fake sense of self-worth that will never ever live up to being able to learn all the movement options in a game like melee

Why do you think Melee fans don't mind seeing the same players and characters over and over? Because those players constantly push those characters, ergo, the game, to their limits. 3rd Strike is the best Street Fighter game for sure, but that game has been combed to its core and back and there just isn't anything left, hence why you don't see it at EVO. Melee, on the contrary, is still alive and is only growing by the day, because its gameplay is rich and ever evolving.

>Melee doesn't have parries
>What is powershield

>melee doesn't have parries
nice try retard. we have powershielding AND yoshi parries

red parry is a 2 frame window

powershield is a 4 frame window

looks like melee is a babby party game

For those that don't understand, consider how a lot of pro players say that playing a fighting game is analogous to playing an instrument. In this scenario, playing Melee is like conducting an orchestra. You're playing more than one instrument, because there's simply far more going on than in any other fighting game, and it demands more of your attention and expertise than any other.

pure autism

melee is for people who cant play other fighting games

does melee even have a single 360 input

since you are not one of the 10 people who are good at melee smash 4 is better.

its just fucking true and anyone spouting melee is better isnt even in the top 100 players and therefor can hardly compete and is only saying its the best cause they suck the sack of their autistic melee gods for the last nearly two decades.

smash 4 is fresh, huge roster lots of viable characters, tons to discover still, get over melee already.

Does Street Fighter have anything on par with Fox's execution inputs?

i don't know what you hoped to achieve by posting this

Smash 4 is literally baseball, fun to play but boring as fuck to watch. Smash in general actually.

Are you so simple minded that you can't appreciate skilled play unless you're as skilled as those players? I suppose you don't watch the Super Bowl because you can't compete with the NFL?

My apologies. I suppose it is a mistake to assume that people who unironically think Melee is a bad fighting game would have the intelligence to understand why it isn't. Not everyone is cut out for it, that's why Smash U exists.

Considering smash players can't even quarter circle?

FUCK THAT

SKULLGIRLS WEHN

>all these triggered melee hell faggots
You guys are worse than sonnygers.

nfl players dont look like this. nfl teams change over time.

so no, im not going to watch the same 10 autists do what they did in their basement in 2001 again.

time to see something new.

clacking your controller to waveshine is not an "execution input," its just autism

melee players could not hit confirm supers in 3s like the pros :^)

Are you talking about when Smash U players got frustrated by Ryu's inputs? Those are, again, Smash U players. They don't have execution, that's why they play U. Melee players don't have this problem, because simple Street Fighter style inputs are, frankly, beneath them.

All Smash games shouldn't be played at EVO. Blazblue could be removed too but there's probably space for it if Smash is removed.

Melee is outdated. How many tournaments do you see of vanilla Street Fighter 4 nowadays?

None, which is precisely the number of tournaments Melee should have.

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LOOK AT THIS TECHNIQUE xD

top fucking kek

concepts like kara cancelling dont exist in melee because its probably possible but too hard for the playerbase.

Those were shitposts, nobody complained about that, quite the opposite actually.

Uhuh, sure thing bud. That's why Leffen got exposed and blown the fuck out every time he tried to go pro in SF.

Never

We're losing to MAHVEL and a bunch of meme spewers. Not enough people care about Skullgirls anymore, we will have to wait for LZ to make Skullgirls 2 :^)

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You see this shit? The way you're acting?

That's why nobody wants Melee. Because Melee shitters are almost all like this. Cunts.

It's not that Melee is outdated, it's that it survived.
3rd Strike did not survive.
KoF did not survive.
The other classics withered and died.
But Melee? It evolved. It adapted. It continued to become something bigger and better than its peers. That, my friend, is why you see Melee but not Street Fighter 4.

If Leffen truly cared, he could go pro in SF. However, it would require him to divert his attention from Melee, which simply isn't worth it. He gets more success, more fame and fortune, more money and more notoriety as a Melee player. Wouldn't YOU rather be a scientist or neurosurgeon than a McDonalds cashier?

>Those are, again, Smash U players. They don't have execution, that's why they play U. Melee players don't have this problem, because simple Street Fighter style inputs are, frankly, beneath them.
If it's not a problem, then Melee players should have no problem playing Smash 4 or Street Fighter, right?

>it's a 'my game is more technical than yoooooouuuurssss' thread

every time

Melee no longer needs EVO to sustain itself.

It already does well with all these majors/super majors

Ita funny because Fuudo goes from VF to SF and wins evo. Jimmy j tran starts playing SF5 and has sponsors sucking his dick but he says he doesnt care about competing and a smash player cant do shit in the most simple fighting game? Top kek

>If Leffen truly cared, he could go pro in SF.

here is him losing in POOLS of a capcom game

ahahahaha
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It's natural to recognize yourself as a superior specimen, that's why human beings have rights and animals do not.

They wouldn't, they simply choose not to because they strive for better.

Indeed. But those in charge of EVO know we will always bring them support in numbers that other fighters simply cannot. They need us, not the other way around. And it is an opportunity to show why we are the best.

>3rd Strike did not survive.
>KoF did not survive.
3rd Strike and KoF were replaced with newer iterations in the franchises. SF and KoF players moved to the new games.

Melee players did not, they stamped their feet like spoiled children who don't get their way. Apropos.

FGC created itself and then Melee tacked itself on. FGC, and EVO, do not need Smash autists.

Go make your own fucking tourneys if you're so important, at least then the cancer will stop infecting EVO.

> if Leffen truly cared
Sounds like a bitchboi excuse for getting exposed as FREE. The gay furry nigger used the same tired excuse after it turned out he was free in games with competition too.

>It's natural to recognize yourself as a superior specimen

For some reason I have the urge to just beat you around the school yard. Those old bully instincts are just kicking in for some reason.

user, you're not... a dork, are you?

>But those in charge of EVO know we will always bring them support in numbers that other fighters simply cannot.
Street Fighter trounces Melee again and again in viewers. Just stop, you're an embarrassment.

How fucking dare you guys have a conversation about execution in "fighting games".

Especially ashamed of you street fighter players. You guys really think you capcum guzzlers are above smash fags?

The fact that you bring up third strike as the thing to prove to smashfags how execution heavy fighting games are shows you have never touched guilty gear.

Venom is literally as complex and execution heavy as a fighting game character can get.
fuck off all of you

It's pretty difficult to play a game at a competitive level and be successful, let alone two games. He probably plays sf once in a blue moon. Mango is awful at Mega Man games, that doesn't mean he is a bad player.

Then tell me, pray tell, why do those games no longer see tournaments? Because those communities bowed down to the corporations telling them they had to move on? Why enslave yourself to a game you dislike? Just look at the near unanimous discontent for SFV.

We do have our own "fucking" tourneys, and they draw numbers that your precious Street Fighter could only dream of.

Resorting to violence because you lack intellect? Sounds like an SF player to me. Do your Capcom overlords know you're engaging in such...thuggery? :)

Literally who?

How do you explain all the cross game players in the FGC then?

Then Smash shouldn't be in EVO, and there'd be nothing more to it.

Except, a large group of autists keep forcing themselves upon EVO! Why won't they just piss off?

>Resorting to violence because you lack intellect? Sounds like an SF player to me. Do your Capcom overlords know you're engaging in such...thuggery? :)

Abusing Meleefags and making them cry is legal. It's encouraged. It's why there's no Melee on sunday.

embarassing. what are you doing in this thread exactly?

>why do those games no longer see tournaments?
Because new fighting games came out and the players decided to evolve. The newer games stimulate actual growth, both as a player and as a community. Melee fans are troglodytes clinging to a game everyone else left behind a decade ago.

Remember how much the meleefags were crying about not getting on ESPN last year? Good times.

Not him, but that's because they are all very similar. Think of Melee as TF2 and most fighting games as Overwatch.

They are the same, but also very different.

>smash/Melee
>good game
Pick one row.and only one.

Remember how much the Meleefags were gloating about how they caused a new viewer record during the Melee finals at EVO 2015, only to shut the fuck up once the viewer numbers for Ultra SF4 finals beat that number to shit?

Great times.

Don't be angry with us, friend. Mr. Wizard wants our money, no, he NEEDS our money. He knows we will eclipse all other games with our entries and viewers. If we wanted Evo to be a Smash ONLY event, we could make it so. Evo is your biggest tournament, but to Smash, it's just another bump in the road.

False. You chose to obey what your corporate masters told you, and you resent yourself for it. We, on the other hand, held strong to our beliefs and continud to suppor twhat we loved. We are the artists, the politicians, the doctors. You lot are working a cubicle office job, because that "the man" told you to do. Just please keep the venue clean for us, won't you? The smell of those FGC jocks does get ever so pungent...

Tr4sh and Peelee aren't, and will never be a fighting game. Play a real fighting game instead, user.

Oh please, do define what makes a "real" fighting game. 8 frames of input delay? An e-Sports sponsorship? The absence of Nintendo characters? The FGC's blessing?

>You chose to obey what your corporate masters told you, and you resent yourself for it.
You're projecting really hard there, buddy. I don't resent myself at all. FGC discussion revolves around the games, characters, and strategies. Melee discussion revolves solely around the top players. How incredibly mundane.

>We are the artists
So, the unemployed with no marketable skills and poor hygiene, got it.

>Just please keep the venue clean for us, won't you? The smell of those FGC jocks does get ever so pungent...
Oh the sweet, sweet irony. Last I recall, the FGC didn't need notices asking attendees to perform basic hygiene actions such as taking a shower or brushing teeth.

a game with high low mixups

>a fighting game must resemble my favorite game because I said so
people like this have the attitude of a toddler. ironic

Isn't EVO still best of 3? Why the fuck does anyone take that seriously anyways? If it's not best of 5 it shouldn't count for shit. Best of 3 is an absolute joke format.

Au contrare, friend. We are the ones who influence their world and create, you are the ones obeying what others tell you. Otherwise, you wouldn't be playing Street Fighter 5, you'd be playing 3rd Strike, would you not? Your main game is the one Capcom told you it had ot be, ours is the one we chose ourselves.

If your game limits itself to high and low mixups, don't tell me that Melee is less complex.

Indeed. Any tournament running that format should be ashamed of themselves. EVO is an absolute joke, nobody should take it seriously.

>Otherwise, you wouldn't be playing Street Fighter 5, you'd be playing 3rd Strike, would you not?
On the contrary. 3rd Strike, while fun, has been played to death. Street Fighter 4 and 5 were new games with new mechanics to explore and practice. Likewise, Melee has been played to death. Brawl and Smash 4 were new games with new mechanics to explore and practice.

You show no interest in growth, only withering.

>Doesn't get second billing at the biggest FGC event, after having it years in a row
WAAAAAHHH THEY WANT TO KILL SMASH

>Only smash games get main stage at their events
silence

Do you realize why your argument defeats itself? 3rd Strike has been played to death because there is no new ground to tread. Melee, conversely, is growing and expanding every time people play it. If people got sick of playing 3rd Strike, it's because its hit its peak. Melee has no peak, players have been discovering new things every day for the past 18 years. SF players move on to new games because they grow bored with them fast. Melee players need not do this, for Melee is not as shallow as SF.

Some richfag please vote ARMS in at the last minute to piss off the FGC nerds

Have fun watching that

Don't you see this thread, friend? They're already pissed off. Just the idea that Melee exists is enough to upset them. The FGC are so angry at us, yet they need us. We have infiltrated their community and cemented ourselves as the kings, and that angers them.

Mango
Armada
Hungrybox
PPMD
Mew2King
THE FIVE GODS OF MELEE AND NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM PLAY FIGHTING GAMES OTHER THAN THE PARTY GAME KNOWN AS SMASH.

You'd think if smash was a fighting game the top players would at least cross over and play another fighting game but no they don't.

If you look at the top 5 players of any fighting game, you'd see that at least 80% of them play another fighting game.

hahahahahahahahahahaha

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There is no reason for you to lie so blatantly, user. It will not help your case.

Meleefags stick to their own pen claiming that they find new things in Melee every day, completely ignoring the irony of that statement. If they would have put that "dedication" into Brawl or Smash 4, they would be saying the same thing about those games. But they never did, they would rather complain because Brawl and Smash 4 are not exactly like Melee in every single way.

Meleefaggotry is Stockholm Syndrome, nothing more.

What's the problem?

Melee only has a few viable characters, it's been the same shit for a while now.

Let it die

This.

I never considered evo to be a real tournament for smash since it's a BO3. Nobody else should either

ITT: FGC memery and bullshit
all ya'll are cancerous gayshits who only like bad games.
>Muh SF
>Muh Melee
>Muh "Skillz"

Why are they obligated to play another game?
Read the thread. I already debunked this.

>I already debunked this
No you didn't.

You didn't debunk shit you dumb nigger. Melee was hype the first couple years but ever since it's been a parade of the same old faggots playing the same old shit and it's BORING. It's like the event comes to a stop so you can watch a rerun and it's shit.

You don't even get any upsets or anything. It's always "Oh there's still 4 matches left but X lost so now Y is going to win grand finals."

Where in the world does this mentality come from? BO3 is practically paradise compared to the cutthroat BO1 single elim format Japanese tournaments have and still use. But then Smash players dont care to educate themselves about the FGC, despite demanding to be called part of it.

Fox VS Sheik/Falco sure doesn't get old.

Meleefag BTFO

Very well, I shall repeat myself for your benefit.
Melee fans are eager to see those same players because they are the most skilled, and there is no one who comes even close. They continue to push the game in new directions despite playing the same characters. In fact, a single character in Melee can be played in infinite different ways. There are no "archetypes" like in Street Fighter.
Or to make this simpler, Melee continues to evolve, which is why seeing the same players and characters never gets old.

Cause at the best of times they have had two games running, so they have gotten use to taking as much time as they want and putting as much focus on it. Now doing so would be at the expense of other games, and their answer to this is but muh smash

Smash is like the only child that suddenly has to share with everyone else and throws a shit fit at the tiniest thing

>new ways
>oh look it's fox, time for shine
>oh look it's samus, time for charge shots
>oh look it's jigglypuff, time for sleep
>oh look it's ice climbers, time for glitch grabs

woooooooowwww the innovatiooon

>Melee fans are eager to see those same players because of stockholm syndrome
FTFY

Your five gods stop playing the game tomorrow, what happens to the Melee community? It just implodes?