Dude fan service lmao

dude fan service lmao

You're thinking of persona

No, he's thinking of IV and Apocalipse.

Thank you Nintendo for ruining another SMT.

Am I the only one that hates the art style of these games and cannot get into them because of this?
Persona's just fine but these are horrendous.

Will we ever see him again?

Kaneko's art is great, but I had to adjust to them at first. I can't comment on Doi because I haven't played any 3DS SMT's yet, but the PS2 game have aged wonderfully as far as visuals go and it's largely thanks to the artstyle, as well as that, the demons are both good takes on their respective descriptions while also feeling like they really are beings from another world.

If Atlus knew what they were doing they would've stopped trying to appeal to their old fans a decade ago.
I'm grateful that I get anything approaching what I want out of SMT, since I'm part of a tiny niche that they frequently listen to and make games for despite being financially disincentivized from doing so.

Kaneko's art is pretty nice, but a bit weird and alien so I understand some people may be put off by them

>If Atlus knew what they were doing they would've stopped trying to appeal to their old fans a decade ago.
This is literally exactly what they did with SMT 4 and 4 Final.

Utter plebian.

After playing the 3DS games... I really fucking miss Kaneko.
Doi's art isn't too bad though it feels really generic and lifeless to me, but unfortunately for IV they decided to get a bunch of awful guest artists and the game was an absolute mess of designs as a result.
IV Final was an "improvement" but only because the previous game was so awful on that front so literally anything would be better.
The direction the series is going in disappoints me, and it feels like this is why Kaneko stepped back from it.

>start playing nocturne
>enjoying it
>beat matador and stop playing
This was months ago, should I start again?

IV wasn't that bad for fanservice. IV:A however...

I un-ironically like IV much more than IV:A. I just couldn't get over the characters, story, and how bad the world was fleshed out compared to IV.

IV:A should've just had Gaston

>I un-ironically like IV much more than IV:A. I just couldn't get over the characters, story, and how bad the world was fleshed out compared to IV.
I don't know why you're treating that like a weird opinion to have. The writing in IV:A is dogshit. I have a fuck tonne of problems with IV's story and cast, but jesus fucking christ they only made it worse in IV:A. I sure fucking hope the team behind that garbage stay the fuck away from any future titles.

You were enjoying it, so why not?

Wasn't there some recent news on Kaneko? Maybe I imagined it, but I swear he popped up somewhere.

Finished DDS 1 today. It was pretty short, my save file after the credits is only 23 hours.
The second to last boss fight was the hardest one I fought, I had to spend a few minutes grinding to get Almighty magic so I can use Magic repel, don't know how I would've done it without that.
In dungeons you can never ever tell what's the right way to go which makes you not explore everything unless you want to backtrack a whole lot while fighting random encounters every few steps.
I didn't want to use a guide and I never found a way to remove those colored walls, except for the blue ones because I found the key accidentally. Wish the game threw you a couple hints about how/where to find optional content.
The soundtrack is good
Heat is a cunt
Looking forward to playing DDS 2

>It's a SMTfags use Persona as a scapegoat episode

>ITT Nocturnebabbies complain about the direction of a series that's older than they are is going

I've seen many people tout IV:A as the best SMT game, while coming across like IV killed their first born. Funnily enough, the guys that did IV:A also did IV, but the older writers oversaw IV and regulated it more. IV:A let them loose.

(You)

I won't spoil it, but Heat, as much of a cunt as he is, has a very good reason for being a cunt. Also, DDS2 really jumps the shark at the end unfortunately, but aside form the end, I prefer it to DDS1.

Also, the Beelzebub fight in DDS1 is shit, huge disappointment after the fight in Nocturne. IT felt like they just copy pasted the Beelzebub fight from Nocturne, but then it didn't work as well because DDS has less customization in your party than Nocturne.

>tfw 1st thought after looking at the op pic is bible black

>BB invented occultism
a BB thread would be better desu

>I've seen many people tout IV:A as the best SMT game
Gameplaywise sure
no one really shits on IV though

...

there's literally nothing wrong with fanservice

Maybe if it didn't come at the cost of the story
But nope it's power of friendship trash + 13 year old edgelord route

Nomura > Kaneko

>Hm, game is on the SNES, Gameboy and android, which version should I localize?
>The one with a 4 letter character limit for every menu option!

>Hey guys, this Saturn game will be translated any second!
>3 years later
>It got a PSP port, we'll translate that instead
>6 years later
>Any second now
>9 years later
>It got a 3ds port, project cancelled

Worst community ever

nobody plays smt for the story

Not anymore they wouldn't.

>Tetsuya ''DUDE BELTS LMAO'' Nomura
>Better than anything

>playing SMT for the story

Is that why some demons look good but then you have shit like Medusa and Asmodeus

>t-the story was always shitty!!!
Fuck off IVfags

go make one then

We laugh and have a good time about the story, but if one of the driving factors behind you playing SMT games is story, I have nothing but smug sympathy.

What's wrong with the story in SMT?

There's really nothing interest about IV's story after you the Tokyo reveal. You go through a generic Law vs Chaos fest with awful guest demon designs. The Divine Powers were much more entertaining and made up for IVA's shortcomings.

Fine, I'll use a Devil Summoner reaction image. Not like you've played a game that was made before Nocturne

I do.They give a nice break from the stories of other JRPG's. Obviously it's not the only reason I play the games, but nice to have nonetheless.

>implying I was saying SMTIV was better

You wish.
Maybe one day you'll quit using 'but muh nocturnebabbies' as a scapegoat and realize you're pathetic.

When you stop using Persona and SMTIV as scapegoats and realize SMT's stories were always mediocre at best.

>Devil Summoner
>Good
It's stylish and the music is banging but No More Heroes 1 plays better than that trash.

>When you stop using Persona and SMTIV as scapegoats
That has to start happening before it can stop.

>That has to start happening before it can stop.
What i've seen a lot SMT fans using Persona as a shield when someone talks bad about any of the games

Oh sorry I thought you said "you", not "some other user completely unrelated to you". Guess I was mistaken.

>He's only played the Raidou Devil Summoners and uses a slut from a FOTM game as a reaction image
This thread really is full of newfags, I'm out.

Devil Summoner 1 is one of the best games in the series desu

It's better than both Raidou games

>hasn't played Nier 1 or Bayo and thinks Automata is flavor of the month
>newfags

The only waifus allowed in SMT are the demon waifus

oen moar gawd rejectidd xD

Sup Forums is usually terrible to discuss SMT son of man. Come to the /vg/ thread.

>FOTM game
you wish faglord

epin falseflag

>/smtg/ is a good place to discuss smt
Bait

this

Automata is barely anything like Bayo except for the fluid movement.

A story doesn't need a bunch of plot points to be engrossing. Nocturne's story works well because it captures the feeling of an incredibly bleak apocalypse with only a few humans left.

open shirt lilim >>>> swimsuit lilim

hey boyo you killed those friends of yours yet?

>Sup Forums is a good place to discuss videogames
bait

>one place is shit
>this makes the other also shit place no longer shit
Bait

That translated at all yet?

Nah

Are Dagdaposters literally 12 year old edgelords or are they ironic?

>Persona writers fill in for a single cash grab game
>It's over, SMT is finished

SMTfags, everyone.

Yes

>Persona writers fill in for a single cash grab game
This never happened. Fact check before you shitpost.

>Atlus makes a survey for what games do you want made
>every answer is Persona

is SMT finished?

>That has to start happening before it can stop.
There you go

>The only entertaining character is edgy for not being a standard anime piece of cardboard

Sounds like Sup Forums alright.

EOP
The survey was over 50 questions, and the one asking what future Persona games people would only had Persona games as options, who would've thought!
There were questions about SJ, IV:A, and SMTV all in there.

I never said Persona was bad.

>is SMT finished?
P5 turned out better than SMTIV/IVA and SMTV is announced. Also the 3DS project.

Of SMT?
Your taste is weird.
The hardest part of getting into the SMT games is the difficulty and first starting out because the game does not hold back.
I admit that IV was my first SMT but I went in knowing nothing of the series at all. I absolutely love IV. The monsters, different paths and story is really interesting. The music is top notch too. Not too far into IV:A just met Dadga and I like it already.

Haven't played Persona.

Any speculation on what it's going to be?

I've heard everything from a remake of SMT 1 to a brand new SMT 5. I have a feeling it might be another strange spinoff title to take the series in a new direction, however.

Maybe because a new SMT is in the works?

New writers that happen to be Persona fanboys, then.

inb4 musou game

Nothing to imply a spinoff to me with all the Anniversary of all the mainline games logo and marketing.

Either a HD remake of Nocturne (with the 3DS game being remakes of 1 and 2) to go all in on the anniversary stuff, or SMTV.

It's a highschool idol sim with notPersonas

Now this is some pathetic headcanon, are all SMTfags this retarded?

It's SMT: Let's reuse the shit out of P5 assets

Or maybe they're just shitty writers and you could stop propogating your SMT vs Persona warfare like an insecure redditor.

Why wouldn't they? The PS2 era did it.

In what universe does 1 person's shitpost become equal to a whole communities differing on topic contribution to the thread?
Are you this stupid or just that bored?

I can say for sure they're gonna reuse the shit out of P5 assets

Again, I never ever implied Persona was bad, and I even shat on SMTfags for hating it.

Why are you so paranoid?

There's literally nothing wrong with that.

I'm not complaining.

I expect 10 SMT games for this gen

The new writers definitely favour more generic anime tropes, than the old writers though.

I'm pretty sure there was an interview with atlus about #FE, with the head being "this is what we gotta do to make money" while looking Jaded as fuck, and a new guy going "I like to focus on tsubasa's breasts" amoung other things etc. Anyone have the interview?

But it's true.

The game had new writers and Persona is the face of Atlus, of course they'd get inspiration from it.

Jeez, the only thing off about 5's visuals are these black outcroppings that you can't turn off. They're in every cutscene too, so pointless.

I have this

When they flashed the star that had I, II, III, IV and their respective years, along with the "next" right at the top, they were aiming for SMTV. However I don't think Atlus is even sure if they're going full SMTV yet or not.

Can we just agree to forget #FE ever happened

I think it'll be an SMT1 remake. Even if SMTIV: F was half spin off and not really SMTV, I do think it's been too soon since its release for Atlus to make another mainline title, and a remake would make sense for the games anniversary.

>But it's true.

#FE 2