GTA V

>oh shit we're nearing the climax of our story and don't have a single viable character who could plausibly be the antagonist
>what about this random, pompous billionaire jerk with only a tangential connection to the main characters who we can prop up to be evil through plot contrivances?
>sounds good senpai, and while we're at it let's reintroduce a few minor inconsequential "villains" from way back in the beginning of the story who literally know one will remember

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I think I've heared that story pitch before.

game woulda been better if it ended with a shootout at the cemetery between michael and trevor

if you don't remember them you have a shit memory

Haines should have been the main villain. Just replace him with Westin for the part where they're all out killing the guys who want them dead, then instead of just Trevor finishing the job have all three them go on a rampage after Haines. Makes more sense that way too; of the four guys who get taken out at the end, Haines is the only one who actually has a problem with all three protagonists.

Who the fuck would remember Stretch? Nigger was a plot point for like one mission and his betrayal was off-screen.

those 3 are the bad guys

damn...

>Devin Weston
Billionaire douchebag that has antagonized all 3 characters throughout the entire 2nd half of the game

>Steve Haines

Bullies Michael and Trevor constantly, all around corrupt asshole cop

>Stretch

sort of inconsequential, he tries to get franklin killed once and lamar killed twice, so he still works as a villain since until the final mission there's no revenge

>Triads
The only villain I don't really like, you meet them earlier on as trevor to get drug deals going, they blow him off. That's fine, but not enough material to be a main villain. Kidnapping and almost killing michael comes way too late in the story, it doesn't have that much of an impact because it's the only time where they personally attack one of the main characters


If you forgot either of these characters though you're an idiot OP

>villains who did nothing wrong

He cleaned up the city and tried to rid it of gangs entirely, am I meant to hate him?

He has a point though, stretch was unmemorable and it just made me think him and the whole gangsta franklin was cut content because in about 7 missions you go from shieeet poor as a muhfugga slingin dope to HERE IN MY GARAGE JUST BOUGHT THIS NEW PEGASSI INFERNUS HERE, FUN TO DRIVE UP IN THE VINEWOOD HILLS

What are you talking about? Devin Weston and Steve Haines were villainous as fuck, especially Steve.

this

Stretch and the Triads were who OP was referring to when he said inconsequential so you just proved his point.

Killing Trevor was really the only ending that made sense storywise.

It basically tied up the main, and what should've been the only plot, of the three being forced to work for the shady government. Micheal and Trevor are forced to deal with each other once and for all and Franklin realizes how cruel and fucked up Micheal and the crime business is once and for all, finally parting ways as well as understanding the importance of loyalty and friendship from Micheal's own mistakes.

Weston is a villain because he screwed the protagonists out of their payment for the job he hired them to do. I think they missed an opportunity to imply that Molly was the one who tipped off the cops, so that Weston had a good reason to screw the trio out of their pay.

GTA V's single player was the most disappointing thing I think I've ever experienced. It was such irredeemable dogshit.

>Kill CEO, become CEO

That;s not how anything works
SR 3 would have been better as a story about the Saints making Ultor bow to their will by killing/intimidating those who had an actual shot at becoming the head of Ultor

>Weston is a villain because he screwed the protagonists out of their payment for the job he hired them to do.
You're right but that's still a shitty, unconvincing motive.

I agree that the Trevor ending is the best ending. Really does tie up the story and Trevor needed to die anyway

Michael
>surviving is winning Franklin, everything else is bullshit. Fairy tales spun by people afraid to look life in the eye
>whatever it takes kid...survive!

Frankin
....damn straight!
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Which is why I killed Michael.

That fucker kept getting other people involved in his bullshit. Franklin made a lot of money because of him, but eventually you've got to cut the liability.

>Killing either michael or trevor

end yourselves my friends

Still doesn't make the final confrontation anymore lackluster and dumb.

If all their problems could've been solved by just straight up killing them away, you can't help but ask the very simple and basic question of "Why didn't they just do this from the start?".

Really, is there any good reason at all as to why the gang didn't decide to kill Deven right after he tried to kill Micheal's family? Or kill the head triad member when they tied up and tortured Micheal? Or kill Stretch right after his betrayal?

He was trying to distance himself from the crew after they attracted attention from the local authorities near the truck stop. It would be suspicious if Molly were to pay them on site, a few miles near the chase happened.

The gameplay was good but the story was by far the worst in the series.

A might actually be one of the few anons here that actually like Trevor as a character, but it doesn't stop the fact that his death was the only one that was actually a decent ending with each character getting a satisfying arc.

Honestly, the other endings are so badly thought out I wouldn't be surprised if originally Trevor's death was meant to be the games official ending but realized that'd piss people off and last minute they decided to throw in a happy ending to please everyone.

Micheal couldn't kill Haines early in the story because he would've gotten Dave, and himself in lots of trouble. In the case of Weston, Michael was too caught up in his greed and dream of becoming a movie producer, it isn't until Weston sent a private army to his house and harm his family that Michael saw the billionaire as a threat.

Trevor didn't see the triads as a nuisance. He probably would've murdered them when he got the chance.

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Westin had a whole private militia backing him. The decision to kill him was literally a last resort.

I picked ending C the first time but I think the Trevor death was the most satisfying ending

basically this >A might actually be one of the few anons here that actually like Trevor as a character, but it doesn't stop the fact that his death was the only one that was actually a decent ending with each character getting a satisfying arc.

>a whole private militia
What's another one after the dozen you'd killed so far

V has forgettable characters, unlike IV.

Really, the issue is less that Stretch is an inconsequential antagonist and more that Franklin is completely irrelevant to the story. You could rip him out of the game entirely and the only parts that would be affected would be Micheal escaping from the meat factory and the final mission. He gets a couple fun gangster missions early on but then spends the rest of the game following Micheal around. Franklin is the definition of a third wheel, the game was never about him and he was probably late addition.

>Micheal couldn't kill Haines early in the story because he would've gotten Dave, and himself in lots of trouble.
This is another thing that irritated me. The Haines situation only escalated as the story went on, I've always thought it was weird how Micheal decides not to kill him early in the game, but then did it anyway even after matters had gotten much worse.

>Micheal this Micheal that
Jesus Christ stop misspelling that. How retarded are you?

I agree

>Micheal couldn't kill Haines early in the story because he would've gotten Dave, and himself in lots of trouble
This one makes sense as is made clear in the story, which is why I didn't bring it up.

Deven and the triads excuse you gave takes a whole lot of stretching to justify. And the fact you didn't even try to justify Stretch says alot about the game itself.
> it isn't until Weston sent a private army to his house and harm his family that Michael saw the billionaire as a threat
I pointed this out, they didn't decide to go kill Weston immediately. The just spent what seems to imply weeks right after the fact. And they're was no preparation, no strategy, no nothing when they finally decide to kill him. The gang just goes "Yo, lets go kill Devin" all of a sudden, so the threat of means nothing when the actual killing had no plan whatsoever and done so in a whim.

Here's an idea: Why not make the final mission a planned and thought out hit, just like the heists? Maybe his mansion is huge and well secured so they couldn't just walk in and take him like the actual game? Have Micheal and Trevor bond over trying to carefully plan out to assassinate this guy and show some of Trevor's more heartfeltside since it's shown that he does care about Micheal's kids despite what Micheal thinks.

Literally anything beyond just "Hey, we should probably kill these guys now".

It's implied that Stretch set Lamar up to be killed by the Ballas, because Lama started beef with them when he and Franklin tried to kidnap D for ransom. Plus, Franklin didn't want to save Lamar late in the game, at least until Tansiha showed up and guilt sling him into rescuing Lamar. Everyone in the hood knew Stretch was up to no good except for Lamar himself.

I think fans of GTA expected a gritty but humorous game about crime and instead they got something more like a primetime TV drama script. There was too much bullshit about government agents and social media and not enough about drugs, prostitution, robberies, and stealing cars.

Gangs in V weren't a threat. Trevor easily mowed down the Lost and the Aztecas in Blaine County before they had time to retaliate.

>Everyone in the hood knew Stretch was up to no good except for Lamar himself
You not all confirmed my point that they could've just killed him at any time, but gave further evidence to it by pointing out that from the very beginning everyone knew he was up to something, yet still done nothing.

At least it wasn't some random space monster that had no relevance to the story.

>ff9 blown the fuck out

Would have been better if it was never made, gta v is one of the worst gtas.

I still don't know why we got a CJ-light now that Latino gangs outnumber the black ones like 5-1 in L.A.

And in keeping with spoofing pop culture (especially series), a Mexican gang member character could have opened up the avenue of parodying aspects of Breaking Bad.

And since Michael was just Tony Soprano, they should have made him a proper guinea.

Stretch was just a petty gang banger. He didn't need to be killed, just pretty much avoided at all costs. As long as Lamar avoids all contact with him, he's not much of a threat to him or Franklin. The main problem isn't Stretch himself, but that street gangs in V aren't threatening like they were in San Andreas.

Trevor wiped out most of the latino gangs in V, reducing their influence in Blaine County.