Are the Imperium of Man supposed to be good guys?

Are the Imperium of Man supposed to be good guys?

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There are no good guys in 40k, there is only war.

Lol fuck no

Yes.

sounds like heretical speak to me

If the Emperor is soooooooooooooooooooooooooo strong than why is he dead??


Savior of man my ass

SCUM YOU DEFY THE GAWD EMPRAH?

They're the good guys from their own perspective. Everything they do is pretty much justified in securing the survival of the human race. You can't have peace and love with Xenos because they will take advantage of your trust. You can't allow religious freedom because demons will literally possess heretics. You can't tolerate dissent because it will be exploited by one of the forces hostile to humanity.

That's a blammin'.

lol user, get your shit straight. Tau are the good guys

>muh mind control

bullshit, they at least worry about their people.

>their people
>not the slaves

'good' as in what we normally consider nowadays?
no.
but 'good' as in 'trying the best for the well-being of it's people'?
yes. very much yes. it is the logical conclusion of humanity's future in the fucked up universe that is 40k. this is the best they can do to survive.

>tau
Space commies pls go.

Orks are the true good guys. They are the only race with a endgame that ends with all of them doing what they love.

Emp era mankind is the most "good" faction 40k will ever have.

But basically its not really terms of good vs evil rather

The guys who will kill you with extreme prejudice

vs

The guys who will kill you in the most brutal way possible, find your house, kill your family in the most brutal was possible, then use all of your caresses to fuel the most unimaginable horrors you can think of.


In general human factions, eldar, and tau are the "good guys". But they all do horrible shit on the daily.

the funny is that Tau are the real multicultural civilization that works. They assimilate, get the best traits of their civilization but they MUST abide to the Tau culture.

Gue'vasa are protected and trained. They have security and some of them are allowed to work along side the Fire Warriors.

What will he do?

>Gue'vasa
didn't they get wiped out recently?

>working for tau is great, really. just never mind the forced sterilization

Not today vagface.

Are you suggesting otherwise, heretic?

>tau
>communist
I like this meme

Better the Imperium of man then chaos tentacle rape or being enslaved by one the the many thousands of xenos races

This is the same civilization that killed a greater daemon of Slaanesh, thought it actually WAS Slaanesh and then send the Imperials a messages bragging about it

That settles it. Thread over.

fantasyfag here: Do the end goals of 40k chaos line up with fantasy chaos? I know there was the scizm a long time ago (where 40k took place in a fantasy wizards globe, except its now its own alternate universe.). Is 40k chaos just a more intelligent tyranid type deal where its just "if it moves, fuck it up", or is there more, like taking out gods of order?

wut? Tau doesn't have a strong mark in the Warp.

They cannot be corrupted by Chaos.


>population control by sterilization is bad
>making massive genocides over your OWN PEOPLE for the name of the Empah is ok

eeeeeeeeehhhhhhh

fuck this shit, this thread needs more Tau

>the funny is that Tau are the real multicultural civilization that works. They assimilate, get the best traits of their civilization but they MUST abide to the Tau culture.
Melting pot aint multiculturalism m8.

lel, they use the different abilities and skills of different races and make them work for one banner.

They have archived more in a few years than the xenophobic empire has done in millennia.

>If the Inquisition didn't suck, Empire could reverse engineer Tau shit and get Gundams.

I need these things.

I think the real question should be:

Mont'ka or Kauyon?

awful lotta gitz in dis 'ere thred

Would it even be possible to just fuck off and live in some remote part of the galaxy or will you always just run into one of the four faggot factions warzones?

if you managed to do that you'd have to deal with any one of innumerable horrors that probably live on that planet without any of the four faggot factions to protect you

He's just taking a nap bro.

Bulking up on that psyker protein

>friends try to get me into warhammer 40k
>never played warhammer before
>"pick your army user"
>go with tau because of mechs
>friends won't look me in the eyes anymore
Did i do something wrong?
Also i got a free broadside with my start collecting tau. Is it any good?

He died for your sins dumbass

if you can get to somewhere habitable, its likely on someones radar already. unless you set up a self sustaining shipboard home somehow and hide it in some asteroid field there is no escape. and likely not even then.

Who here /loyalsoldierofmankind/
>Play nothing but human faction in every single fucking game that gives me such a chance.

Xeno Trash needs to be purged

There are probably planets in the war 40k untouched by violence, living normal lives in utopian paradises.

Praise be the emperor.

Cut Gulliman's fucking life support.

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE

fucking weebs

>the funny is that Tau are the real multicultural civilization that works.
>Tau empire is so tiny and insignificant it's ignored by the rest of the universe
I guess it works for something.

>Actually wanting to be forgiven of your sins
>In anno domini 40,000

This guy gets it. They're really goddamn brutal, but with the 40k universe as it is, they absolutely have to be to survive.

Too bad they aren't really goddamn brutal and cunnin'.

I don't know, Khorne sounds like a lot of fun.

Everyone is the hero in their own story. Though part of the reason the Imperium is so batshit insane in the 41st millennium is because it's the best option available. Honestly they'd be more happy to have some form of peace so they can rebuild and rest, but Chaos is Chaos, ORKS IZ ORKY, Eldar are fucking everything up thinking there's even a slim chance to rebuild their empire There isn't, Tyranids are OM NOM NOM, Necrons are neutral and it depends on which tombworld they're dealing with, but some may be open to a truce or cease fire, same as the Tau.

Tau is the best 40k faction because it makes all the grimderps furious that it even exists. Purge their armies in the name of peace, love and cooperation user.

As far as I know, the 40k chaos just want to act on their ridiculous quirks until the end of time. Khorne for example wants endless bloodshed, especially if it means kicking over Tzeentch's sand castles, Tzeentch on the other hand just wants to build impossibly complicated ruse cruises that'll go tits up if anybody fucks with his house of cards, etc.

The Ciaphas Cain series does a good job of characterizing those planets. Granted, any planet Cain is near will soon get it's shit fucked because Cain is the single unluckiest motherfucker in the galaxy but in his downtime between tyrannid invasions, chaos insurrections and ork attacks, Cain loves nothing more then chilling out and enjoying what the planets of the imperium have to offer. The books are about half Cain shitting his pants as he runs like a coward from warzone to warzone, and half him commenting on the local tourist attractions, enjoying fine dining, banging local women and in general getting as comfy as he possibly can.

>Necrons are neutral and it depends on which tombworld they're dealing with, but some may be open to a truce or cease fire, same as the Tau.
However Necrons are more imperialist. Some tombworlds will negotiate but it's more along the lines of 'Get the flying fuck off our goddamn planet and we won't liquidate your genitals you fucking meatbags'. Tau may actually concede a world once in awhile.

Orks are the good guys.

Heresy... so much fucking heresy

Where would i be able to read up on 40k lore?

i dont think roboute needs life support anymore.

If you want to take it seriously, the lexicanum wiki, the books from the black library and the codices.

However 40k is one of those settings that's best when it's revelling in how ridiculously fucking absurd it is and GW keeps pushing this super serious bullshit to appeal to 13 year olds. If you want to learn about it in the tone that fans think of it with, check out the youtube series If The Emperor Had A Text-To-Speech, the 1d4chan wiki or just threads on Sup Forums.

i will be your guide, what do you wish to know

Only by virtue of their evils being necessary to the survival of their species and the galaxy in general.

Imo the people and Imperial Guard are good. The Inquisition and other higher ups are so corrupted they need a purge. Eapecially the people who treat the Imperial Guard as expendable.

Thanks m8.

Was hoping to learn 90-95% everything thats going on including race history, culture and such

>the song when the custodies show up

Emperors TTS is fucking gold. That shit cracks me up every time.

>Was hoping to learn 90-95% everything thats going on including race history, culture and such
i have decided to give up

Yes and no.
The Empire of Man has hardcore religious fanatism, with human sacrifices, endless wars and people being treated like disposable cattle - but the universe is so fucked up, that this is still the most benevolent option for most humans.
You have Tyranids straight up eating and assimilating everything, Ork WAAAGHs turning your planet into dust, Dark Eldar torturing you for decades to delay their own death, Eldar destroying a whole planet to save a single of their own, Tau brainwashing and castrating whole systems, Chaos force-feeding people until they are bloated, then skininng them. Do I need to go on?

Best Legion coming through make way

>Was hoping to learn 90-95% everything thats going on including race history, culture and such

I don't think you understand what a monumental task that would be just for the current fluff alone. If you include all the stuff going back to the 80's then you are proper fucked.

It's a tall order.
I'm hoping to learn a shit ton before I'm done building my first army.

>However 40k is one of those settings that's best when it's revelling in how ridiculously fucking absurd it is and GW keeps pushing this super serious bullshit to appeal to 13 year olds.
The exception to this is the Cain books. He spends the majority of one book fucking a thicc, bratty governor's daughter with huge tits, and then trying to get away from said daughter when he belatedly realizes she wants to use her influence to turn him into her personal fucktoy- which he'd be completely cool with if it didn't mean the imperium would shoot him in the face for deserting. There's also some wafting about genestealers but it's obvious where the real drama in the story lies.

Naturally they're not making them anymore. Had to make room for the space marine's xenophobic adventures in grimderp.

NO I DON'T WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?
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There are no "good guys" in 40K. When they were originally implemented the Tau were the closest to an idealistic, innocent race genuinely working to save the galaxy. Then people complained and the Tau were retconned to castrate their males and keep their subjects docile through subtle mind control.

All I need is $350 million and enough weapons and men to take each of their families hostage

It's really better to pick one army to learn about first, and then spread out from there. If it's a part of the imperium, focus on the chapter if it's space marines, or the specific part of the imperium it comes from like the guard or sisters of battle.

The problem with 40k is, being a war game, everything is divided into shitloads of other things which are divided further, to give players tons and tons of options. For example Chaos is divided into chaos marines, chaos demons and chaos cultists/legion (although that's not really supported anymore). Within the chaos marines there are 8 different legions, and the chaos demons are split into 4. Some of the legions worship some of the demons, or all of the demons, or none at all. The legions are further split into a shitton of chapters, like The Purge which is a more specialized version of the Death Guard.

Chaos is just one army, and not nearly as well supported as the imperium. If you want to start digging into the imperial shit, holy damn, there's divisions on top of divisions on top of more fucking divisions.

The Cain books can't be done for good can they? I thought it was just some extended break from the series for the writer. Those books were so good even my normie dad enjoyed the "hero of the imperium" omnibus when I loaned him it having never read a 40k book before. I'd love some more Cain exploits to read.

wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page

Has everything you need

The "40k wiki" is full of fanfic, focuses almost exclusively on space marines, and is very incomplete

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wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Warhammer_40,000

START READING, HERETIC

The Tau are the smallest, least imposing empire, right? Would it be an even fight if they battled the Covenant?

There was an experiment the Imperium did to see if there was life outside the galaxy and all they could hear was orks.

You'd probably get killed by Orks or slow Tyranids if you fucked off.

Why is fantasy so much better than 40k?

>fantasy
whats that

Tau always had overtones of something being off about their culture. Though it focused on how the Ethereals controlled their populace.

The chemical castration of non-Tau came later as a thing from Dawn of War. And GW ran with more sinister undertones with stuff like the Communion Helm for the Vespid.

The whole idea was that the Tau seem too noble and good, so something must be up. There wasn't any real reconning, just further developments on the existing idea.

Ork never stop growing, if memory serve ther eare GIGA orcs somewhere, Tyranid invasion sized.

Then people complained and the Tau were retconned to castrate their males and keep their subjects docile through subtle mind control.

What's wrong with those? 1) The sexual urges of the penis would interfere with a soldier's abilities, and 2) the mind control is fine because people in general are lazy and would rather be hedonistic than fight for the greater good. Just look at what happened with the Eldar and hedonism

Because it is dead so GW can't hurt it anymore.

Not that they aren't fucking the corpse.

There's no good people on 40k, it's just varying degrees of evil and gray

I thought orks only kept growing if they kept winning fights, since their peers perceive them to be bigga and stronga than the guys they beat

Yep, that/s why I like that Warhammer 50k story where Orks and Tyranids end up becoming one species because they've been fighting for so long.

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It was more the longer and Ork is around the bigger he gets. So naturally the biggest ones are the ones that survive the constant warfare. And subsequently usually become Warbosses.

Yeah but if you are a planet sized Orky then you win all your fights, DUH

>smaller, two-legged ATST lookin' walker
Wonder why they didn't put that in. To answer your question, definitely not. Smallest empire in 40K terms still means a completely ridiculous number of forces.

They are supposed to be the guys. They aren't good or evil. Some are.

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>They cannot be corrupted by Chaos
Who is Commander Farsight

The biggest Ork was The Beast, who was so big that humies thought he was a gargant until they realized it was an ork under all that armor. He led a ridiculously huge WAAAUGH and was incredibly smart too, even by human standards. The fucker managed to field ork diplomats, for fuck's sake.

Friendly reminder that chaos is a religion of peace

Daily reminder that Eternal Crusade is actually a very good game and you shouldn't listen to butthurt founders who got shafted 3 years ago.

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good luck, at least one of them is dead you GoT fanboy

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