Why do people blame the ps3, wii...

why do people blame the ps3, wii, 360 for making video games more popular when the ps1 and ps2 are the two highest selling console of all time?

i wouldnt be into gaming without PS1 and GBA

Because them they would need to admit they are "casuals" who got into vidya because of GTA and Medal of Honour (and never really moved from this sort of games), and this cannot be since they aren't housewifes or old people.
Therefore the Wii is the casual machine

the wii is actually the only good one out of that list. the problem with the ps3/wii/360 gen was how it forced the idea of consoles being a home multimedia device instead of a videogame machine, and we're still suffering from that movement. the question now is will videogames ever recover, which is seemingly impossible as videogames "recovering" means returning to obscurity which obviously isn't feasible for a business

>why do people blame the ps3, wii, 360 for making video games more popular when the ps1 and ps2 are the two highest selling console of all time?
Next thing you will see, is fags blaming the PS4 and Switch making video games popular and that Xbox360 (their first console) was the true niche gamer machine.
While in fact it was the NES, which brought casuals into video games.

The idea of the home multimedia device surfaced from the success of the PS1 and PS2, which had the secondary functions of being a CD player and DVD player respectively
Also this DVD player functionality is why the PS2 sold so well, not an actual increase in the popularity of vidya
The PS1's sales figures come from a more honest place, the upgrade to disc-based vidya and the jump to 3D graphics made it shine.
However, actually points out why the 7th generation is seen as bringing in more people to the world of gaming. The Wii's motion gimmick attracted clueless consumers that saw it as the beginning of VR, while the other consoles capitalized on the previously established demand for multimedia devices. This was also the generation where we saw stuff like Skyrim and Minecraft surface, as well as the beginning stages of mobile gaming.

tl;dr: 7th gen brought in boatloads of casuals

>Also le DVD player meme is why the PS2 sold so well
Look, an underage parroting le DVD player.
It sold so well, because it fucking played all PSX games and everyone had those.
Because PlayStation was THE casual video game machine!
>tl;dr: 7th gen brought in boatloads of casuals
It didn't.

I would argue that casual is a useless label.
It applies to, what, 99% of human population?
Both had lots of "casual gamers", but different kinds of those.

>I would argue that casual is a useless label.
I'm a casual gamer.
But I was playing on PC until recently and never owned any console.
I got a PS4 recently, so this is the console which brought in all the casuals.

A sample of one only proves the one taking the sample is a retard.

I just predicted what you will read on Sup Forums in five years from people born in 2010:
>PS4 got all the casuals because of muh Netflix.

You'll hear about how awesome tablet games were as they wax nostalgic about their childhood the year before.

Exactly.

Most people are casual gamers I think, they just put of a facade that their core is a lot more durable than it actually is.

How many of you fucks ACTUALLY 1000/1000, Platinum, 100%, etc. every game you play?

I sure as fuck don't I have things to do and also its boring as hell.

Give me some cool singleplayer shit, a competitive multiplayer with depth (and not a fucking Calladoody exp treadmill fucks sake), and I'm happy.

>How many of you fucks ACTUALLY 1000/1000, Platinum, 100%, etc. every game you play?
I don't. I spend a maximum of 15-30 hours in a single game and then a move on.

>you're a casual if you dont have autism

Achievements are a dumb gimmick that should've never been introduced.

Mostly and a need to feel like their hobby/obsession is a niche pursuit despite being part of a multi-billion dollar, world-wide entertainment industry.

this is bait right?
Turning videogames into multi-media machines was the best.
My ps4 can play video games, movies and music, I can use it whenever I need it. It's the most useful thing ever, and nintendo got it wrong by not incorperating that aspect. I think that's why the gamecube failed so bad against the ps2

Casual is more a matter of aesthetics. Casuals don't have a library of experience to compare a game to or a taste for nuance that comes from exhausting the average experience. They are unable to appreciate things beyond their bubble. A codfag isn't going to like a tacstrat.

Contrast that with a core gamer who knows what he likes and why and seeks novelty and challenge on top of it. I can tell you that a game I don't personally like is good. To use a food analogy, casuals drink macropiss beer and think it's all good and all the same but don't like real beer because it isn't what they already know and have no metrics to compare other than "I just don't like it".

Holy shit you actually agree with me?

I can't stand it.

It used to be (HAHA >REDDIT LE WRONG GENERAYSHUN XDDD) you just had like a game. Maybe some unlockables for beating it on hard or whatever, and that was it. And it really was optional, nobody really cared one way or another. At least in my circle.

But now everytime you start a game your "completion %" is proudly displayed for everybody to see. So if you ONLY play the game through on a couple difficulties everybody is forced to point fingers that you can't have an opinion because you didn't play 50 multiplayer matches or collect 100 flags or what the fuck ever.

Again though like I said in the popular gaming community this makes me a top casual, so I've really just embraced the title yeah man whatever my core is frail I only play through about 50 games a year and I don't collect all the trinkets take my gamer card I'm too busty having FUN ("the call of the scrub"™) over here.

I agree user. If you've played through the game once and you liked it, you should not have to go back through on the hardest difficulty or 100% it in order to have a valid opinion on it.