>Miyamoto: "[...] What we were talking about was giving more opportunity and more leadership opportunity to younger people in the company. So rather than me leading everything we were really expanding that role out to others that had come up within the company."
it does indeed. although skyward sword and tp were trash too so im not sure it would mean anything. i think the main thing holding these games back is nintendos pathetic hardware and controller gimmicks.
could you imagine how cool it would be to have a modern windwaker with anime graphics like guilty gear and have it be like a live comic book from the 80s zelda comics or something?
William Barnes
It feels like such a simple thing to do, but I completely lost hope that Nintendo will ever make a Zelda game without a gimmick like wolf, sailing, open world, time limit etc.
Sebastian Flores
defend this
William Young
Vanilla Morrowind looks better than this game, granted it's mostly due to its art style being amazing while BotW's is atrocious. Wii U can do better than this. How fucking sad.
Zachary Jackson
That would be incredibly lame. I'm glad nintendo doesn't have you as an idea man.
James Taylor
I usually say i graphics before gameplay, but this is ridiculous It looks like an early ps3 game, GTA4 in 2008 was more impressive looking than this Maybe switch as a handheld was a mistake
Matthew Evans
>It shows, Miyamoto. It shows. It really does. Instead of having to focus on a retarded gimmick, the new Zelda is satisfied with shaking up the formula and giving fans what they had been asking for. Thanks, Miyamoto.
Zachary Hall
What type of person does it take to talk about the same subject with the same points for days on end?
Can you fucking sperglords think of nothing else to talk about?
Luke Nguyen
I don't remember fans asking for a mash up of all other open world games on the market. I remember Zeldafags mocking games like Skyrim and Assassin's Creed .
Juan Garcia
But according to Sonyfan logic that's okay.
Isaiah Watson
>one has an endless sea of grass >the other has an endless sea of water
Technologically the same thing. Except well, separated by something like 13 years
Xavier Ortiz
But he's right. It's only numbers, nerd. >MUH NINTENDO SHOULD GO THE WAY OF SEGA
Grayson Cook
Fuck, 20 fps even when there are no enemies on screen? And on the Switch?
Carson Martin
>single random post by literal who on some random forum >compared to a Nintendo game that just plain has bad performance on a next gen console SONYFANS AMIRITE GUISE
Jose Gray
>Miyamoto: turn broom up to 200%. perfect
Oliver Evans
LOL Fucking numales . im nothing like them btw because i say cuck and pepe
Jeremiah Cox
Shaking up the formula by turning the franchise into Skyrim, even graphics-wise. Wew.
Xavier Clark
It dips to 20 fps anytime depth of field is triggered.
Eli Reyes
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Austin Butler
It doesn't matter since they couldn't inact his idea due to hardware constraints anyway.
Tyler King
So why is it that I only ever see the same ~5 or so cherrypicked screenshots of BotW on Sup Forums where there just happens to be shit ground textures or something? Why not compare good looking scenes from BotW with good looking sce4nes from WW?
Chase Martin
grass is much more taxing to render than Wind Waker water
Juan Cox
Yet WW looks better despite being much older. BotW is quite possibly the least ambitious Zelda title to date.
>wander around until you find a dungeon >get item in that dungeon that either helps you get through the dungeon or defeat the boss at the end >do some side-quests for le ebin world building >repeat 8 or so times until you reach the final boss
Justin Green
If they made one without a gimmick you guys would be complaining that it's boring and uninventive
Luke Rivera
kys hisss!! leafyishere FTW!!!
Mason Gutierrez
>Posting your shitty video in every single fucking thread I bet you're the OP too
Jeremiah Lewis
>Linking le wannabe Crowbcat
You first.
Wyatt Jackson
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Evan Price
Is anyone else annoyed by the fact people call it a beautiful game? Compare it to other games in the series, its no where near the same pedigree.
Ethan Phillips
Visually, you mean. Gameplay-wise, it's unarguably the most complex it's ever been.
Caleb Watson
I'm no expert on Zelda games, but wouldn't you rather say it's the most ambitious project and has the most riding on it, but seems to be horribly botched up in its implementation.
James Mitchell
use both hands, press them both down
Lucas Watson
>mario games are too similar >blame miyamoto for being a hack >zelda games are too different >blame the younger employees for being incompetent
PREASE PRAY MY GAMES YOU FIRFY PREBS
Landon Collins
the geometric complexity of BoTW is much higher than wind waker the only problems are some pretty average lod generation and the ground textures neither are because of the limitations of the hardware but because of the techniques they used
James Harris
Do you have any good looking scenes from BotW? I haven't seen any so far.
Adrian Jackson
>crowbcat whiteknights
How incredibly pathetic
Henry Long
>Man, Nintendo's hardware sure sucks >Man I bet they'd totally do this cool idea of mine if the hardware didn't suck >My idea is so cool, too. Too bad we'll never see it, the sole reason being that the hardware sucks
...
Xavier Reed
People who save images of cherry picked comments are the worst.
Benjamin Perez
>anime graphics No thanks, those are even cringier than AAA brown-n'-bloom shooter-graphics.
Not to defend BotW's lackluster graphics, just saying I'm glad it didn't take the FE/Xeno2 route.
Connor Anderson
the digital foundry clip that's taken from says that was one of 2 dips in 40 minutes of play, stop spouting bullshit.
Camden Bell
>Implying WW wan't trash. XD
Luke Barnes
Yes and the final game looks a million times better than anything from shitendo. Also
>deflecting to sony again as a defence for shitendo >implying I care about sony
Literally bleach your insides.
Easton Baker
How is it ambitious? It literally presents an open world that looks exactly like every generic open world out there. There's no thing you can latch on to say "yeah, it's open world like many other games, but it has THIS feature".
Sure, it has the most riding on it, considering Nintendo is going all-in on Zelda this time, but it's not ambitious at all.
Angel Gonzalez
>wasn't*
Camden Torres
do shilling jobs pay a lot? seems pretty easy, just post the same threads every 5 hours
or do they just hire pajeets and pay fuck all?
Cameron Collins
>I remember Zeldafags mocking games like Skyrim and Assassin's Creed .
>I project my insecurities by grouping fans of an unrelated intellectual property together so that I can assume their collective disdain for my beloved franchises
Aiden Morris
Those aren't mutually exclusive.
Joseph Young
For someone who doesn't care you sure are assravaged about me mentioning them. I wonder why?
Andrew Nguyen
>I don't remember fans asking for a mash up of all other open world games on the market. Zelda fans have been going "dude why don't they just make a big open world zelda???" for years now.
Alexander Murphy
You're right. No 3D Zelda game to date was ambitious enough. They all fall short somewhere.
Dylan Cook
Isn't that what this guy literally did for sony fans?
Xavier Barnes
since it's zelda I expect it to have a superior level of handcrafted feel.
Adam Green
>bu-but sony!
Every fucking time!
Oliver Moore
You know why it's called Breath of the Wild? Because the developers had to be wild to release a game in 2017 that has such a poor AI.
Aaron Morgan
The switch is weaker or as powerful as WiiU Which is as powerful as PS3 This is fucking 2006 power and it fucking sucks
The should have done a separate home console and handheld with the home console being more powerfull, but them being able to play the same games
Cooper Davis
25 cents will be deposited into your Sony PSN account if you do a good job.
Dominic Diaz
Anything's better than that same cherrypicked image of close up rock textures that we start every single fucking thread with. Could have started the thread with this, but I guess it doesn't make the right point.
Robert Cox
It's not any better when he does it
Jaxon Watson
it can be both. nintendo is a big company.
Cameron Anderson
Every triple a game has poor ai.
Not that I'm defending it, but the bigger you are, the less you care apparently. Lazy cunts
Connor Cox
I didn't say that. Ocarina of Time was minblowing at the time. Zelda I was revolutionary for its time too. Majora's Mask was one of the first titles to use the concept of Time Limit and having NPCs with developed behavior systems for a platform like the N64. Wind Waker did a ton for cel-shading tech at the time. Skyward Sword, despite being shit, proved you could have full-fledged action games with motion control.
BotW has literally nothing. It didn't innovate in any single area.
David Hernandez
miyamoto is a hack who's far past his prime. he's ruined paper mario and star fox with his dipshit ideas and any new IPs he tries to shit out are awful
Jaxon Lopez
>deflecting to a company that is off topic >HURRR UR THE MAD WUN!
ok buddy. Btw the worse looking cherry picked image of a ps4 game still looks better than anything on shitendo.
Jordan Sanders
I never understood all the Nintoddlers defending BotW's visuals. Yes we are all aware the graphics are shit, the graphics weren't EVER impressive on any Zelda game, it's all about the good art direction, which is always more important than polgon count or complex dynamic lighting systems and whatnot.
Thing is, BotW has SHIT art direction, THAT's what we mean when we say it doesn't look good. No it's not about the low poly count or the abhorrent textures (although the way they use textures poorly *is* part of the art direction), the game simply looks like shit, with a greyed out filter on every scene (or green filter in jungle areas, etc, "foggy" or "washed out" would be the better worlds) and it isn't as timelessly cartoony as Zelda WW which looks 10x better and more cohesive than BotW
BotW is so shit on so many levels. The copy/paste assets, especially trees. The VERY low LOD (trees/objects simply cease to exist after 100 metres) which completely clashes against the long vistas they allow players to see in the game. Feels like a very shitty engine for an open world game, together with a very shitty art direction that makes the shitty textures very evident, rather than the masterful way WW does it
Kayden Fisher
This is bait, I'll bite.
In-engine trailers are nothing more than fiction. Anyone who doesn't know that need to be lobotomized. They're just there to confirmed a game with a reveal trailer. They even say in the fucking screen that it's not representative of the game. If it was true, Zelda BOTW would be looking like this
and not the drained, shit looking visuals and design it has now.
Eli Cook
cute, you found a bug
Nathaniel Ortiz
>Majora's Mask was one of the first titles to use the concept of Time Limit and having NPCs with developed behavior systems for a platform like the N64 shenmue did it mizzurna falls did it
Charles Brown
Nintendo gets a pass. They're reviewed with a different scale.
Robert Edwards
That washed out colors style is so fucking retarded.
Henry Gonzalez
I'm convinced that they guys working on Zelda tried to delay it for as long as they could just so they could get away with not building the game around the Wii U's gamepad gimmick like the higher ups wanted.
Grayson Taylor
Holy shit why did his post get deleted? Did it count as shitposting? Was it the sony deflection that triggered the mod? I mean thats cool by me the guy was a tool, just surprised his post got deleted.
Christian Barnes
>HURRR UR THE MAD WUN! >shitendo
He's not wrong, you hilarious madman
Nicholas Perez
So WW just looks pretty, I don't see innovation beyond the visuals. SS was better than the WW as a whole.
Zachary Green
>"one of the"
Gavin Wilson
Why do people get so upset over Nintendo's graphics, if you don't like it then why make constant threads about it?
The worst part is that a lot of these threads start with images that are compressed and stretched out of proportion, see
Blake Cox
This
Switch will flop because of it.
Luke Stewart
>SS was better than the WW as a whole. a whole thread full of bait and somehow you have the dumbest opinion in it
Zachary Campbell
The pic still looks like shit. Drained filter
Cameron Parker
>visuals don't matter for this visual medium
This is how retarded you sound like. Visuals are extremely important to games.
Jaxon Lee
That's nice but I wanted to see a open Zelda like the first one again
Christian Gonzalez
It keeps happening.
Ayden Ortiz
>Dumbest opinion Truth hurts.
Thomas Mitchell
>the graphics weren't EVER impressive on any Zelda game They were pretty damn impressive on OoT and WW. WW generally more so due to the art style though.
Kevin Foster
Dark Souls 2 all over again
Angel Martin
you could find a clip like this of a trash mob in any game, especially ranged trash mobs, in ni-oh I could get the ranged weapon mobs in an infinite loop of changing weapons.
Julian Sullivan
It doesn't innovate with anything else, though. On a global scale.
It's literally "you want Zelda, but Skyrim? Well here it is."
I actually expect this to be the worst home console Zelda to date, there's just nothing good about it that I've seen so far. It's trying to appeal to the people who like Fallout, Elder Scrolls, GTA, Assassin's Creed, Watch Dogs and etc, but it just looks like it's way off the mark, in typical Nintendo fashion.
Andrew Young
Our owner is aknown japanese conman and you had any trust in his underlings?
Carson Cook
Yeah but they don't decide a game's quality alone. WW has nice visuals but they didn't really breathe life in the game as well as they could have. By today's standards they're nothing too special.
Jason Richardson
>Every open world game is skyrim When will this meme end Skyrim didn't even originate the open world design, it was just one of the first to blow up for normies
Hunter Collins
>Increased numbers of anti Zelda / Switch threads made daily
(They) are frightened.
Levi Parker
>let's silence every criticism! >you can only discuss games you like!
There are 'safe spaces' in the internet for you, kiddo. This isn't a safe space.
Jacob Campbell
Not really, WW has nice visuals but they're pretty overrated. The ocean was dead despite having a unique style to express it.
Leo Edwards
>anime graphics Kill yourself anytime, dumb weeb
Mason Martin
The review must have played only the first 20 or so hours. It was really great until they made you revisit areas and you had to see the same fucking assets again. That's when I immediately dropped it.
Caleb Hernandez
It's quite clear when people see things like Skyrim and Dark Souls they always ask Nintendo "Why isn't Zelda like this?"
Problem is Nintendo should have kept doing their own thing, they're trying to make this game Skyrim but it looks like shit.