So, why did Japanese developers suddenly flock to steam in the past few years? All their games sell like shit...

So, why did Japanese developers suddenly flock to steam in the past few years? All their games sell like shit, or is it just a desperate attempt to cash in before their mother company forces them to make pachinko games and mobage?

Explicit, shameless pandering to overseas audiences, since Japs only use their gaming rigs by and large for MMOs and visual novels.

That's not a bad thing, by the way.

The western market is larger and PC is the only place that it is profitable. Their games cost almost nothing to make so even breaking even with Japanese sales is profitable.

They don't even sell these games on steam in Japan.

it's almost as if fighting games are less popular on pc, oh whoops here's a genre people actually play in a series that doesn't get a dozen tiny rereleases adding two characters every six months:
FF10/10-2 Owners: 333,534 ± 16,716
FF7 Owners: 1,084,807 ± 30,117
even Diagaea is selling Owners: 114,029 ± 9,777
whoa looks like people enjoy good jap games

Yeah, porting to PC must cost next to nothing if PC sales don't lose these people money.

20000 sales at 60bucks from a product that already paid itself on consoles

its literaly free profit

This. I've been buying Japanese games but fighting games I have zero interest in.

I am a huge fan of GG but i am not paying 45$ for literally 4 new characters and a story mode i don't care about.
I am waiting for the next revision.

Then why not just put those games on PSN or Xbox? It's proven time and time again that consoles have a more reliable consumer base since they have no option to pirate games.

PC ports are extremely cheap. PC sales also tend to trickle in over a long time, once the game is out on steam its not going anywhere.

With consoles once the next generation is over they would need to port it over for the new console.

PC has no generations so it does not have that problem.

50 dollars times 20000 is 1million dollars. Porting should cost much less, so its a benefit either way. Even if people bought it at 20 dollars on sale or something thats still 400k.

They already have console versions and you only have to deal with valve's jew cut instead of the voodoo that is console licensing fees.

I really wish people would stop parroting around Steam Spy like it's fact. One developer claimed the numbers were accurate, while countless more have come and said they're not. I don't even like weeb games, but seriously, fuck off with it. It relies on Public Steam Profiles, when Valve's own Dev Days stats show the majority of Steam profiles are Friends Only/Private.

Most of these games are already on PSN or available physically.

Vast majority of these games were released on PS3/PS4 or Vita first.

Developer gets like 5-10 $ for each game they sell.
On steam 30% goes to seam and everything else the Publisher which is usually the developer itself when it comes to Japanese games keeps everything.
And even if you have a publisher he takes 30% of what is let after that -30% from the initial price.
So a developer gets to keep almost half of what the game sells for if he has a publisher.
And 70% if the game is self published.

>It relies on Public Steam Profiles
Really? thats interesting to know especially considering my own profile is private.

>PC has no generations so it does not have that problem.
lel except for cancer like Microsoft arbitrarily introducing shitty new versions of Windows to shit on compatibility and add exclusive games

Do you people honestly, and I mean seriously believe that on the PC, of all platforms, with Steam sales, G2A, GMG and the rest, EVERY copy of Xrd was bought at full price?

>keep asking why japanese games are coming to steam
>....
>they keep coming to steam
>....
>ask again why they are coming to steam
maybe-
now just hear me out
maybe, they are actually making money.
and maybe, companies try to make money.
And maybe, just maybe, companies keep doing things that are profitable!

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B-but muh pirates!

there's no game for 7 that doesn't run on 8 and 10.

>Breaking even is profitable

Maybe they're having a contest to see who can release the most ports and it's just a corporate past-time now

I have windows 10.

I have not found one single game i cant run on it yet.

And iv played some old titles like Submarine titans or lands of Lore 3 or Act of War high reason on it recently.

>Doesn't sell
>This shit again
I fucking wish we had a thing for PS4 players
I bet it's just as dead on that system

>PC is where the money?
Y'all need to stop this shit

That's only for Xbox games. Even then, the only Windows I've experienced that shat on compatibility was Win8.

There's a lot of costs consoles have steam does not people don't see to take into account.

Cost of patches, manufacturing discs, licensing to sony/MS and whatever else there is.

Consoles are expensive to publish games on but sell well to make up for it, PC is cheap to publish games on but does not sell as well and is made up for by the cheaper cost to publish.

May is NOT for lewd!

stop what?

Considering it was a game budgeted for Japanese sales that has already turned a profit and only costs upwards of 100k to port, yes, having the same number of sales internationally as in nippon is very profitable.

>Release revelator on pc concurrently with announcing Rev2
>doesnt sell well
really makes you think

Steamspy use data extrapolation, it doesn't literally crawl every single public profile. Private/Public profiles doesn't matter as it doesn't impact purchase decisions.

Other than a few xbox games on the microsoft store. I can still play my old "last gen" windows 7 games. With a PS4 you can't play anything last gen unless you buy the remaster or a digital version like a good goy. Xbox One works with select games.

>It's another consolefags try to spread FUD about PC gaming and get raped episode

When will they ever learn?

There's the licencing to make the game on the console and also a minimum purchase order of copies of the game. PSP could be bought in lots of like 5-10k while Nintendo with the 3ds demanded 30k.

This is also why Nintendo will always be a console manufacturer.

I just still find it funny Trails in the Sky the 3rd will be PC exclusive in the west, Xseed said it the only viable platform it was either PC or nothing. Even they know the vita is a dead platform.

well knowing that the game is out for only 2 months and there was only 1 major sale . WHITCH the game did not have even 10% discount on it

yeah, its easy to think that good part of those sales were full price

PC gaming makes six times as much as console gaming.

Why wouldn't you want your game to be on PC?

20k is how much it sold at retail in japan though.

>Then why not just put those games on PSN or Xbox?
You know how much money the license cost to do that thing?
Dont joke about this stuff even indie games write off 50% of all earning right at the beginning just to cover they basis for selling.

Shut down the room because no one joined

because you dont have to produce a bunch of physical discs

console trash is a waste of money

Even better for the argument of why it's a good thing for Jap devs to port their games to PC.

>largely driven by free to play
Come on user

lol

It still baffles my mind that moblie makes the most digital money now.
Who the fuck spends actual money on shit like this?
I know it's big in Japan but those slanty eyed fucks will buy literally anything that makes their missarable life to/at work (no they don't go back home) a little more bearable.
But literally nobdoy I know has ever spend money on mobil games and I study at a all electronics university

Blame Valkyria Chronicles. It is solely because of this game's success on steam that we've been getting a shit ton of ports.

>PC gaming
Seems more like it was League of fucking Legends doing all of the work there sport

League of Legends makes about 1 billion a year, still 33-34 billion left over.

With those cheap af sale I don't see why.

Give PC users a strategy game, slap some anime on it and we are golden.

I mean I want to believe you, but i bet they make a fuck load more.

>release the game months after the PS4 version which you could get cheaper by that point
>force people to pay full price even if they had the last game for some DLC tier improvements
>wonder why it flops

Dumb anime poster

Isn't that only in the west?
You underestimate how much Chinks love this shit.
This, some bootleg CS:GO and Overwatch clone is literally all they play

Guilty

And that's why steamspy mostly underetimates instead of overestimating, which means niche japanese games selling 200k copies is excellent and could be much much more than that

Because they sell the same our better numbers than Japan just with steam.

Exactly steamspy numbers are an estimate at best they're not accurate at all. These developers are making money that's why they keep porting games it's that simple fuck off now.

Porting is easy and cheap so they make a few quick bucks. It's lunch money but every bit helps.

Have you noticed how exclusives are dead? Except for games directly funded by Sony or Nintendo everything is multi plat now.

Why are weebs this fucking delusional?

They have to be making more than that. SOURCE

Considering devs wanted to destroy steamspy I'm inclined to trust it.

Most people on PC are casuals or playing MOBA trash.

There is no master race. Gamers are shit regardless of platform allegiance.

Next time by a PS4, PCuck.