Why is Metroid the most ignored series out of Nintendo's "big three"? (Mario/Zelda/Metroid)

Why is Metroid the most ignored series out of Nintendo's "big three"? (Mario/Zelda/Metroid)

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>Nintendo's "big three"? (Mario/Zelda/Metroid)

This is a joke right, Metroid is at least 2 or 3 tiers of popularity below Mario or Zelda.

>Nintendo's big 3
Pokemon, Mario, Zelda, DK, Kirby and FE are all more popular than Metroid.

I think thats just referring to classic nintendo franchises. what would you suggest for the third position alternatively. if their first game is on the nintendo 64 thats not quite the criteria

Metroid is part of Nintendo's "small three" (Metroid, F-Zero, Pikmin)

Cause Japan doesn't like Metrioid

>F-Zero
Star Fox is more popular though

Pokemon, Kirby, and FE are not Nintendo.

DK is debatable, but more often than not Nintendo themselves do not handle it, so I'd rule it out too.

I love Metroid, but I won't pretend that Metroid was EVER "big three".

Popularity:
Pokemon > Mario > Zelda > Kirby > Splatoon > Star Fox > Metroid > Everything else

>small three

>what would you suggest for the third position alternatively
donkey kong or kirby

It was. Do you not remember Nintendo's "Who Are You?" campaign? It featured Link, Mario, and Samus.

Because a Metroid game would require actual effort while with Zelda and Mario people will buy regardless.

What's with all these metroid bait threads

That was 15 years ago user

they publish the games though. nintendo is synonymous with all of those franchises
look I love metroid but let's not kid ourselves. it's not big three. I don't think it ever was
also nice arbitrary ruling on DK there, dingdong

Because popularity in Japan matters far moreto Ninty than popularity overseas.

>metroid in the big three
Kirby has that rank buddy

>Kirby
Not Nintendo.

>but I won't pretend that Metroid was EVER "big three".

>Kirbycucks this delusional

Even with all the games it has its barely sold above metroid and star fox

It wasn't. It was relevant, however, since Mario, Zelda, and Metroid all had brand new releases to advertise at the time.

>It wasn't
>It was. Do you not remember Nintendo's "Who Are You?" campaign? It featured Link, Mario, and Samus.

What the fuck are we doing, man? This is getting stupid.

Nintendo killed Metroid when they decided to reboot it as a generic FPS series

Funny how so many Nintendo series didn't survive the transition from 2D to 3D. Mario 64 and OoT were both the beginning of the end for those series, Metroid only lasted a little longer because the guy who created it found the N64 controller too confusing, and even then it died with Prime.

ok

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>OoT and SM64, two games widely considered among the greatest of all time, were the beginning of the end

Really hard to fathom how anyone can be so wrong in just one post.

>most ignored
Stop, the main series (2D) games always had gaps in development for particular reasons. It took 8 years for Metroid 4 because the Game Boy Color wasn't powerful enough, Metroid 5 wasn't made for the DS because Sakamoto's development team after Iwata restructure it was too small, and we haven't seen one made now because after Other M Sakamoto and Nintendo were rethinking what they should do to the main series since Other M failed, reading their recent interviews it seems they want to return to the traditional 2D style for the main series. For the Prime series it's because Retro doesn't want to work on them and Tanabe doesn't have a team that can. Sakamoto on the other hand team grew when EAD and SPD merged into one.

Because they don't know what to do with the series, even though the obvious answer is to just make another 2D game that's big and open like Super, not linear as fuck like Fusion was.
That, and act like Other M never happened.

>Super Mario, flawless masterpiece
>Yoshi's Island, flawless masterpiece
>ALttP, flawless masterpiece
>Mario 64, forgettable and bland
>OoT, forgettable and bland
>MM, forgettable and bland

Those are some hot opinions you have there.

>kirby
Splatoon has had a grand total of 1 games and its bigger than kirby

My comment has nothing to do with Mario and Zelda games.

Metroid's never been a massive seller.

It's Mario/Zelda/Fire Emblem now, cucktroid.

Requires nearly as much effort as zelda to make a good game, but is less popular. Maybe if the company had more creative talent something would show up

Metroid dropped off the "big 3" years ago. Fire Emblem holds its spot now. And if it weren't from BotW, Zelda wouldn't be there either, it'd be Cooking Mama or something.

>someone actually spent time writing that
autism

The best sold Game Cube game after Melee was Metroid Prime you nigger

Metroid was never in "the big 3".

This.

I would say, at this stage, pretty much everything that gets regular sequels is bigger than it.

If Kid Icarus Uprising got a sequel, it would outperform Metroid.

>The best sold Game Cube game after Melee was Metroid Prime you nigger

Ehmm, try again sweetheart

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Nintendo_GameCube_video_games

We just went over this.

>Wikipedia as a source
Ok honey

>Not countering with a source to back up his claim

You can do better than that darling

Nintendo's headlining series are Mario, Pokemon, Zelda and Super Smash Bros. Animal Crossing and Kirby are pretty high up there too, as was the Wii series for a while.

Metroid might have been created around the same time as Mario and Zelda but it's never garnered the same level of popularity. Even Fire Emblem is a bigger deal these days, of all things.

Because people say they want it, and then no one buys it.

And no, I'm not talking about Federation Force. Metroid titles historically undersell.

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>Even Fire Emblem is a bigger deal these days
that's mostly because the 3DS FE games are waifu-filled otaku-pandering garbage, to the point where they even released a fucking mobage for the series

meanwhile Metroid hasn't gotten a main series game in 7 (SEVEN) years, and the last one that was made was divisive at best

Metroid always takes a huge break every now in a decade

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Forgot picture

holy shit

All modern Nintendo really gives a fuck about is Mario, Fire Emblem and Pokemon

I mean look at Smash Bros:
>Mario series
Mario
Luigi
Yoshi
Peach
Bowser
Wario
Bowser Jr and all 7 Koopalings
Rosalina

>FE
Marth
Roy
Ike
Lucina
Robin
Corrin

>Pokemon
Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Mewtwo
Lucario
Greninja
Charizard

Every other series you would be LUCKY to even get 2 representatives


>Pokemon
Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Charizard
Lucario

zelda
kirby

with a whopping 3

What point are you trying to make exactly?

>Nothing in 1996
>Hunters in 2006
>Federation Force in 2016
Why does Metroid have such lame/straight up shit anniversaries?

>link
>toon link
>ganon
>sheik
:thinking:

I quite like Hunters. It's faster than any of the Prime games, and has better aiming than the first two.

Not saying Hunters is bad, but it's not really a celebration of the series either. Still probably the best decennial anniversary Metroid ever had, though.

Nintendo owns those IPs, so yes, they are Nintendo.

1. Mario
2. Pokemon
3. Zelda

Pokémon

>DK is debatable, but more often than not Nintendo themselves do not handle it
Retro is first party

Metroid is not part of the "Big 3"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_game_franchises

Nintendo franchises

1. Mario - 528.522 million
2. Pokemon - 280 million
3. Wii series (Wii Sports, Wii Fit etc) - 201.8 million
4. Zelda - 78.74 million
5. Donkey Kong - 56.04 million
6. Super Smash Bros. - 39 million
7. Kirby - 35.78 million
8. Animal Crossing - 25 million
9. Metroid - 17.44 million
10. Star Fox - 12 million

DK, Kirby, and Animal Crossing all have Metroid beat

Kek

Are you implying its not
>Pokemon/Mario/Fire Emblem

Just get back to feels.

I bought my 3DS because I was hoping I could revive the experience of DS' "Prime Hunters".

I am still waiting you know.

I love this image.

>Game Freak owns 34% of Pokemon
>Nintendo and Creatures Inc. both own 33%
>But Nintendo owns 100% of Creatures and 53% of Game Freak

Pokemon belongs to Nintendo

>caring about anything nu-nintendo ever made

They are all meme titles about stupid shit no one cares about.

Shit was great in the advance era, but nintendo has to fucking die.

>nu

Anyone who uses this prefix should fucking die

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Because the team that usually makes metroid usually have other games to make. That's it. It has nothing to do with sales because they rehash lower selling franchsises, and they know people love it and have been asking for it for ages and samus is not only one of the most recognized nintendo characters but probably one of the most recognizable video game characters ever

>a decade
Well, it seems like from 6 to 8 years, and maybe now we may get a bunch of new Metroid games in a row starting with FF, perhaps, this E3?

B-but only 85% of it!
Nintendoomed!

what? nintendo doesn't own creatures inc

>starting with FF
Off to a great start, then.

Nintendo's "big 3" was always Mario, Pokemon and Zelda

>Nintendo's "big three"? (Mario/Zelda/Metroid)

>this meme again

Mario, Pokemon and Zelda are their big three and always have been. I like Metroid as much as the next guy but let's not put it on that high of a pedestal.

It doesn't appeal to what Japs want. Metroid, and by extension Metroidvania style games, are a lot more niche there than it is here.

It's the reason Other M was made the way it was, to get more Jap players interested in the series since it had mainly Western fans. You can see how well that worked.

I trust if Retro is taking part of the new Metroid years, they are going to do something great.

This.

Metroid's one of their higher selling "B-franchises" but Japan doesn't give a fuck about it generally, so they don't make it as high as a priority as Mario, Zelda, Kirby, or now, Fire Emblem.

Creatures was formerly known as Ape, and they're the guys who made the Mother series.

Pokemon
Donkey Kong

yeah i know, but they're not owned by nintendo

>if Retro is taking part of the new Metroid years
the fuck does that even mean

I always felt the main reason Metroid took a break from 1994-2002 was simply because the world during the 5th generation of gaming really wasn't ready for a proper 3D Metroid game. I really can't imagine a great 3D Metroid on the N64. We just needed a few more years for technology to advance in order to make the concept viable.

Even Sakamoto and Miyamoto both talked about how they couldn't figure out how to make Metroid work on the N64 with its wack-ass controller.

we could have had a 2D metroid on the GBC or n64. not like the n64 didnt have 2D games

I hope that Retro's unnanouncaed game is a Metroid title. I'm sure they'd like to work on other series, but they're just about the only studio that I would trust Metroid with at this point.

Also Sakamoto considered the GBC too weak to make a Metroid game on since it was 8-bit and they just got finished with a 16-bit Metroid game.

That's because Sakamoto hates analog sticks.

See

Because they stopped making 2d ones which was most of the fan base
And the last Metroid Prime was on the Wii over 10 years ago
If it weren't for smash Samus would be a literally who

Metroid just had a game last year, Donkey Kong hasn't had one since 2014 (Tropical Freeze)

Donkey Kong is due for a new game

I can't imagine a proper successor to Super Metroid really working all that well on GBC. Again, the hardware just wasn't there. It would of been a step back to go back to Metroid 2 after how SM perfected the formula at that point.

I guess there could of been a 2D Metroid for N64, but that era was the rise of 3D games. Most of Nintendo's N64 input was 3D games, with stuff like Yoshi's Story being mere exceptions.

seems like a stupid excuse to me. they could have shat one out with little time and resources or made a 2D game for n64. miyamoto's obsession with 3D didn't apply to everyone in the company

it didnt have to be a proper successor to super metroid, im sure people would understand if the gbc was less powerful than the snes. they made zero mission after metroid prime

Not really, after making a 16-bit game on a 24 meg cartridge would you really downgrade the sequel back to a measly 8-bit?

why does it have to be a better looking sequel? metroid 2 was practically a downgrade from the original

>metroid 2 was practically a downgrade from the original
It was but it also had things the original didn't have, save stations, bigger world, longer game, more upgrades, and improved textures Metroid II was pretty impressive for a Game Boy game when it released.

>textures

Samus model did have improvements over her NES model. Same goes for the Metroids.