Why do people need better graphics? I'm ok with the average from 2005-2007

>b-but I have to justify my 1000 dollar video card xD

not an argument

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not all games can kick ass much ass as OutRun 2

If developers can start making games as good as gen 6 again, but the catch is that the graphics go back to gen 6 as well, I'd be completely fine with it.

I played infamous 1 earlier today on a whim, and wow, it is a jaggy slideshow. I'm not sure what FPS it runs at but it sure as fuck ain't 30.

The more autistic you are, the less graphics matter, whether we're talking about art design or technical stuff. This is because graphics only matter as far as they make you feel something, while aspies (as well as semi- and quarter-aspies) are in escape-feelings mode close to 100% of the time and simply cannot handle the immediate sight of life.

To top it all off, game mechanics are just a way of playing with the game's appearance/graphics, so they are pretty much woven into the "gameplay" no matter what.

>i don't have a 1000 dollar video card
lol enjoy not running o2006c2c (as us pros call it) at 12k
also outrun wasn't the 'average' it was the 'BEST'

True, I wish developers would just stop now and focus more on content.

A 1050 Ti is the bare minimum for "I really don't care about graphics." If you're using something less powerful than that for new releases you're just poor.

>I'm an underage faggot graphic whore

Nice cheap psychology there but only retard people care about realism in video games.

>b-but I want to feel emotions and shit xD

Just about the only reason I even upgrade my hardware anymore is make emulators run better.

I don't give a shit if I need to run a modern pc game in 800x600 and min graphics to get 20fps but I do give a shit about dolphin running at 100% speed.

This
Go play Outrun 2 right fucking now

I'd be fine with games going back to ps3/360 graphics if that meant dee's could optimize other aspects. Like why am I getting sub 30 Fps and texture pop ins on modern fucking consoles.

Outrun 2006 even looked amazing in a fucking PS2 with composite cable.

All this Outrun love listening Splash Wave in background.
I fucking love you Sup Forums

Lets be honest, there's been almost no improvement since the PS2 days. The only way that graphics have really been improved is in fancy lighting, like in RE6. That game is absolutely beautiful.

>.t assblasted consolecuck

Serous they could release outrun 3 tomorrow with the same ps2 graphics and I'd be happy as hell. Wish Nintendo would pay for the Ferrari license in exchange for exclusivity.

>Like why am I getting sub 30 Fps and texture pop ins on modern fucking consoles.

Because companies make games using great equipment just to produce trailers to show at E3.

Then they downscale and don't hire people to optimize, thus they just release "as it is" and people buy their garbage.

FPBP

"HD never happened," claims local man.

Good for you, enjoy being left behind while everyone is fucking your girlfriend. Only underaged faggots don't care about graphics

WHEN
I SAW YOU
WHEN YOU WERE CRUISING IN YOUR CAR
WHEN
I WAS DOWN
I WAS LOST AND INSECURE

Bait?

Better hardware let's you make more alive game world's, if you haven't realised this you're a cynical retard. Developers are cheap around a lot of stuff today but games sure as fuck have benefitted by going beyond XBOX. Dead Rising would of been basically impossible to make pre-360 era.

to be honest only underage faggots care about graphics

>starts conversation about graphics
>cites racing game where everything whizzes by as an example

> Tfw you lose
> You Should Be Angry
> This song starts
> youtube.com/watch?v=_a3iO_Ixmnc
> It's all fine

yfw?

>Graphics are important
>Two best games of all time are Morrowind and Deus Ex
Explain this.

>Better hardware let's you make more alive game world's

Just like The LGBT of Us, Beyond Two Souls, Uncharted of Us 4 and Fallout 18 GB Patch Edition right?

>Serous they could release outrun 3 tomorrow with the same ps2 graphics and I'd be happy as hell

You didn't buy Daytona USA XBLA because all you fucking faggots do is talk.

>rereleasing a decade old game is bad unless it's a game I like, I swear I'll pay $60 for it!

Shenmue is another good example. Panzer Dragoon Orta.
Early Xbox 360 games had already amazing graphics we don't need to keep pushing this meme so Nvidia and AMD can sell their meme cards to the goyim.

I'd be plenty satisfied with GameCube/Xbox-tier graphics, though I won't deny some 360/PS3 games like Dragon's Dogma and Dark Souls look better. Any more than that, and I don't really see the point though.
Instead of spending more and more time and money on graphics, I'd prefer if graphics stagnated but games became ever more filled with content and detail. Think Majora's Mask, but on the scale of Skyrim.

>Think Majora's Mask, but on the scale of Skyrim.
There's more going on in Clock Town than any of Skyrim's cities.

Why do open worlds have to be so fucking big and empty? I'd take a single town as long as there's something to fucking do in it, some life to it.

Oh boy, sign me the fuck up.

STORMED

ok you just have poor eyesight and/or you haven't purchased a new TV in 20 years.

What is shading?

because it's easier and cheaper to make worlds that are big and have nothing to do. not saying that all open world games are like that, but most nowadays are just doing the same thing on the same looking place all over again

You mean those two 3D first-person perspective games with smooth framerates?

What game is that?

At best, games tickle your imagination and feel promising, they compel you to explore them, and this is achieved through graphics, stats, text boxes, pretty much everything, really. It's pretry obvious why a game that is merely good-enough looking/sounding can still be so exciting and full of shit to explore, like the games you mentioned. Games just need to do a handful of (or even one) things super well and bam, masterpiece.

PS3 graphics are fine with me. Something like Yakuza 5 or Uncharted 2 is perfect. Just work on gameplay and controls instead as far as I care.

Sacrifice graphics and hire some goddamn writers and artists again.

Games have become shallow and disposable.

Game is 4/10
>but has good graphics
REVIEWED 9.5/10 BY IGN

it's a scheme.

>bought a 50 inch LED screen
>Lives in a 30square apartment
>b-but I can appreciate the wonders of 4K and shit!

Because then people would complain about companies being hacks that can't make a good game or they would blame them for being cheap.

Retro look is in but not anything from early polygon days to 2007. Too bad because I like early polygon retro look but I am in the minority.

Best OST ever?
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Just play Zelda Ocarina, it's literally 20fps

Sonic R on Saturn?

yet it's better than Memeborne and Overwatch

This is unironically good.

Who is dee's?

Dees nutz

nah, sonic R has some good tracks but every theme in Outrun2 is godlike

Fuck Yeah time for some OutRun 2. Good thing I already have it installed Well OutRun 2006 C2C but it's the same thing. Is there a game better than OutRun 2.

You are ALWAYS going to get 30fps shit if you don't spend 600-700 in graphic cards every 3 years.

That said 90% of PS4 games should be running at 60fps the problem is that Sony has zero quality control and companies release games in alpha stage.

>Too bad because I like early polygon retro look but I am in the minority.

I wish I had a good example to post a picture of, but I wanted to say that there's still so much untapped stylistic potential with low poly models. Low poly models done well are still so expressive, like they're a gesture or an outline with a lot of oomph, and they are a portal to the strange and cool art styles that takes advantage of them, etc.

There's also always an interesting reason or two out there to lower the poly count, especially if it means we get more enemies onscreen or something similarly cool.

low poly is actually making a comeback
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This is a meme spouted by people who don't understand programming. The only thing that makes games greedy from a hardware perspective is graphics, since it takes a lot of power to scale and display stuff. Engine-level computation, like AI or physics calculations, run super fast. That's why you can run complex medical simulations or physics engines on raspberry pis.

The vidya industry mirrors the movie industry, where Transmorphers 8 is continually the top-selling movie over dialogue-heavy movies with complex stories. People now value empty pomp over content.

Last year was the anniversary of Outrun

>No Outrun 2006 HD
>No Outrun 2 released on Xbox Live
>No OutRun Online Arcade 2

JUST

You are right OP,modern grahpics tend ot have too many effects and are confusing to look at.

What is the best OutRun song and why is it Splash Wave?
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>You are ALWAYS going to get 30fps shit if you don't spend 600-700 in graphic cards every 3 years.
this delusion
just set graphics to low (read: console)

Try playing their other games like Daytona USA 2 or SCUD Race. Outrun 2 is a good game but it is also a parroted meme on this board and spoken of like some obscure gem.

You're a shitposter but I 100% agree with you

Because most games are fucking shit and have to rely on graphics alone to get people interested on it.

Daytona 2?

How do you get your hands on that?

Can this just be an OutRun2 thread?

Favorite Car-related game ever. OutRun3 fucking when, what is Sumo doing right now?

>Daytona USA 2: Battle on the Edge
Sega model two emulation
It's pretty good except for configuring the analog stick

Improved draw distanves and shit make games like Gravity Rush possible and I appreciate that.

IT'S MAGICAL YOU FOUND ME

SUMMER BREEZE SOMETHING A CHANGE OF PACE

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Supermodel is an emulator for Sega Model 3. Don't download it from the official site, it's still the old build. Go find rvn 516.

Do I need a good computer for it?

It takes time to make content

Just because they made the map 100x as big doesn't mean they have 100x the amount of hours to create content

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No.

TURNING AND SPEEDING AND SPEEDING AND TURNING OOOOHHH

What are you implying? That Sumo made Outrun 2? Do you really think a bunch of honkeys made that game?

THIS IS PARADISE
AND IT'S VERY NICE

But this looks fucking awful

And I love all the old Model 2/Model 3 games

It's Magical Sound Shower

Or Life Was a Bore

Do you really think a bunch of hipsters who made shit like Gone Home, Fez and Undertale are going to create early good Saturn 3D games?

AM2 made the game, sumo only ported it. And it shows the difference. Sonic Kart 1 and 2 were amazing games, but they missed the elegance, the class and the greatness of Outrun 2

post skilled Outrun2 gameplay
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I'm implying they'd be a good pick for it because SASRT was great and they still exist

>Transformed

LITERALLY CANCER

Oh this again.

It's 60fps vs. prettty graphics. Most people want pretty graphics.

I only play (j)rpgs and adventure games so I'm fine with 30fps.

Yeah I like Transformed too but I don't think an Outrun 3 without AM2 and Yu Suzuki is acceptable at all.

Nah

Just kidding. it's an amazing game but the 360/ps3 port is horrible. They fucked up even the Wii U version

I like my collisions to match the dimensions of the models.

...

Well written, intriguing and complex narratives fail commercially against games like Uncharted. That's just the way it is.

>QTE-Black-Power-vs-WhiteMale.webm

I'm a Magical Sound Shower guy
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I needed a Wii U firmware update before the Skies of Arcadia track was playable

>You'll never have sex with a japanese QT while listening to this

WHY LIVE???????!

Sumo made the PC port.

I bought a Wii U just to play in 60fps online but then it was 30fps almost identical 360 port.

To be fair he's got a point.

Graphics are the only thing holding back games right now. It takes millions and years just to optimize a game graphically, and it's why Unreal, Unity and other engine exists, because those things make the life of a studio "easier"

And yet the focus is still on graphics.

Example: Metal Gear Solid 4 engine was top tier

So Kojewma delayed Metal Gear Solid 5 for 3+ years and wasted 150 million dollars making a new engine so he could make a game

Result: GZ+TPP < Metal Gear Solid 4 and costed 3x more.

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