A good moba doesn't exis-

>a good moba doesn't exis-

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fix your goddamn stutter you retard

Thats not Dota...

The best game of a shit genre isn't saying much

Not even top 3.

No.1 in chinese marketing.

Overwatch is the only good moba that exist. And thats shit to.

dota is a lot better than league (lmao at playing games with paytowin f2p mechanics in CURRENTYEAR)

both are, however, trash games for garbage people

?overwatch
?moba
fuck off retard

>walking through molasses and zero skill ten year point and click stuns
>good
lol

t. 2k shitstain lolbab

Funny way of spelling Heros of the Storm

>tfw i got banned today

dont rub it in op

>no argument

That isn't dota despite the horrendous update it is still the best

>while League's an intense, competitive game

t. shitstain lolbab who has no positioning skills and complains when he gets punished

still not an argument

I'm still shocked at how big LolL become.

I remember playing Alpha/Beta by using the code from Gamespot. up to first season none of my friend know about the game and now it's biggest game in the world

Casual power is an amazing thing

That's a weird way of spelling Heroes of Newearth.

>reminder if you dislike this game its most likely because you get shit on and aren't good at it

>No way to purchase all the heros
It's trash, Overwatch and Smite have the best payment models

>fuck those snares
>fuck riot
>fuck niggers
what did you expect? i got a 25 game chat restriction and am reforming since i only get 2 warnings left, all you have to do is rage irl m8 not to your shitty team

overwatch is not a moba

also dota has the best payment model, and is the only purely nonpaytowin moba
(all heroes are free, the only things you can buy are paytolose cosmetics that make your sacred arrows 10x easier to see and dodge because of the fancy particle effect)

You'd think they would be working on another game with the obscene amounts of money they've been making since the eclipsed Blizzard's income entirely.

Their bubble is going to burst eventually, so many super high talent developers are jumping to Riot and they have nothing to show for it.

define "good" game

I got banned back in October and I just quit forever no looking back. Any game that can ban its users with NO warning isn't worth my time.

Thats not Overwatch OP you faggot.

you get 4 warnings you fucking retard, if you can't get the hint you deserve to be banned

i thought they were making a league of legends fighting game at some point

Well ya, but no one but valve could do the dota model, maybe blizzard but they're jews that hate their fan base AND STILL HAVEN'T GIVEN US ANY HINT TOWARDS WARCRAFT 4!!!

I heard that as well, at this point its starting to sound like a Valve tier side project that will never see the light of day.

leg is dying. they hype worlds up but during regular season audience count is down. pretty most normies have bailed and its mostly kids and people that just discovered it like a year ago. No one gives a shit about that retarded college leg thing either.

U dumb? Literally never got a warning and got permabanned shill

- if you play it you will have fun
- you will not get buttmad and spend 3 hours yelling on the internet about how your team is always shit and they make you lose every game and it has nothing to do with the fact that you miss 75% of your lasthits

dota actually is profitable, but yeah Valve had the advantage of not actually having to care whether it made a profit when they were designing its monetization system

now that dota's shown that it is possible to make a f2p moba with non-shit pay mechanics, other devs SHOULD follow in their footsteps

>supporting Ghostcrawler's balancing styles in any way, shape, or form
The game's been getting progressively worse since he was signed on

sounds like a you problem, its common knowledge, i've gotten 2 warnings and got my shit together

It was blind pick too, permabanned with no warning. I figured it was a scam to get me to put money in a new account so I quit that shit game

Why play LeL when you can play 300 Heroes instead? If you're going to just constantly rip tropes as characters, you may as well just rip the characters themselves in TRUE China fashion

league's buy-heros system inherently makes it shitty to balance
if heroes actually served unique roles, the game would be horrendously pay-to-win since having more heroes would let you make better team comps

so instead they are all generic, and while some have minigames for juggling axes or whatever that only changes how one player experiences the character. for the other 9 guys in the game, ADCs may as well all be the same hero, AP waveclear mids may as well all be the same hero, etc

How about
>MUH INSTANT TURN

because you're too much of a shitstain to deal with a unit rotating and your game absolves it entirely to accommodate simple-minded players like you and desperately tries to make up the balance deficit by artificially nerfing every single ranged hero and buffing every single melee hero in the game

Red was once nerfed because riot felt it punished players who over extended. Talk about appealing to the lowest common denominator

>still no argument about why any of this makes it a better game

>multiplayer online battle arena
That's exactly what Overwatch is

You the type of nigga to remove the AWP from CSGO

pssh, too easy

>90k lcs viewers at most
>cant even break 100k
dead game

>0.006%
that number hasnt changed in years lmao.

you must be a liberal lying like that, they always break more than 100k you lying fuck, not to mention they've done 250k+ on previous seasons. Pathetic you have to lie to try to make a point

>they always break more than 100k you lying fuck
good try retard but I watched todays stream.

enjoy your death faggots, you know its over.

>paytowin
???

>be Jihn, my support is Nami
>up against Jinx and Sona
>Nami refuses to engage or poke, she just sits backs and heals
>tell her to be more aggressive
>she doesn't say anything
>meanwhile our top laner Mundo is feeding the enemy Nasus
>Nasus gets 8 kills, all Mundo and Rek'sai who was trying to help
>Corki , Rek'Sai, and I start raging at Mundo for feeding Nasus
>Nami finally breaks silence and says things like
"Mundo did nothing wrong! There's not much a Mundo can do against a Nasus! We have two fed ADC so Nasus is an easy kill as long as can group and stun him. You guys are gaining nothing by berating your own teammate"

at the end game Nami gives some speech about how she was going to honor us all for teaming up to take down Nasus and stealing Baron, but doesn't want to honor us because we were harassing Mundo. Mundo fed. Nasus was deleting anyone who tried fighting him alone. We were only able to kill Nasus as a group of 4. I'm not encouraging people to harass a player that isn't doing well, but don't defend a player when they're playing like shit and getting called out on it.

Why try to defend someone who is potentially going to throw the game?

All because it's in-game currency, it doesn't mean that the game isn't pay2win.

>you have to win 10 games a day for 2-3 weeks to make enough IP for a champ/runepage
>you have to win10 games a day for 3 years just to be able have every rune
>you have to win 10 games a day for another 3 years to have every champ and runepage

Unless you're getting IP boosts and buying champs/runepages with RP, you will be grinding IP for a long time.

>still no argument
it's almost like you're wrong or something

>play Lucian
>win and move on

Hmmmm

turn speeds make melee carries viable in Dota meanwhile in LoL you can't have any hard melee carries because they'll just be kited forever.

This is also a contributing factor to hero roles in each game. LoL will always force its shitty 1/1/2 1jungle meta

there are so many different viable setups/roles for every hero its ridiculous to even compare them.

What does a lack of turn rate contribute to LoL?

>no melee carries

and that's about it

>i-it's faster!

Pic related isn't fast.

>you can't have any hard melee carries
yeah you can, they just have 500 dashes

Speed of mechanics and fights =/= speed of game progression and health saturation

>I pressed my low cooldown damaging ability lots of times that means the game is FAST

but game mechanics and nuances don't make a game fast? kill yourself

name one that can go bottom lane and doesnt end up as a tanky dps

yasuo can do ok bot
but they don't have to go bot to be carries

>to be carries

then why do all your carries go bot?

it contributes to a stale meta where these 5 roles of the game cannot be deviated from which is boring.
this also creates a smaller champ pick rate in high level play. Dota had a 93% hero pickrate at The International while LoL had somewhere around 40% at their equivalent.

if the roles are forced there are less options per hero meaning that there is always going to be a few heroes per role that are top tier per patch. Thats why the pickrate is shit

>but they don't have to go bot to be carries

only applies to dota

>aggro lane
>carry mid
>carry safe

league can't do this

ranged ad are good at taking towers

It's Heroes of Newerth you casual fuck.
Best MOBA to ever exist, and DotA2 is right behind it. Everything else is casual shitter trash.

Still have my Season 1 Kayle skin, back when I thought it was a good idea to have Revive for late game

are you fucking retarded? lcs is on the weekend, no one wants to watch college or challenger teams god you're a fucking moron

Aside from the delicious character models and liking blizz characters, there any point jumping into the competitive scene for HoTS?

Or is it ded

there are towers in every lane, how is that an answer?

because after bot tower is dead you have an easier time taking dragon

I played lol for the first time the other day.
I regret it, 20 minutes of fucking nothing.
How can people play this shit?
Is it the girls?
Is is because it's free?
Is it because it's popular?

>COMPETITIVE HOTS

lmao

its fucking ded m8

oh also bot lane tower is easier to take, has less resistances than others

Nothing is really 'dead' just not as popular as LoL.

Its not like you're going to reach LCS in league anyway so just play what gives you the most Joy (or sexual gratification)

is asking why they go bot, "good at taking towers" isn't really a reason assuming other lanes have towers.

The reason is, dragon. Top lane is a solo lane with studier heroes because no one gives a shit about what happens top lane. All action is between bottom and mid because Dragon is between them.
Top -> Long lane, solo character, has to have survivability.
Mid -> Short Lane, solo character, doesn't need survivability since it's a shorter lane and you're less exposed.
Bottom -> 2nd long lane, you put your carry and a support here so this way you have people near by dragon to control that.

It's hilarious, they intentionally buffed other towers because they didn't want people changing up the meta so they made it the most optimal to have the carry/support duo bottom.

yeah but I don't want to write an essay for someone who's not even gonna play the game

*crits you for 1445 damage*

MOBAs are only fun with friends. I've been playing them for a bit over 6 years now, and solo queue is miserable. Never solo queue. Also, depending on your skill level and which MOBA you're playing, 20 minutes of nothing doesn't happen too often.
When I play league, if I go to top lane, I usually get first blood immediately at lvl 1.

>3 melee carries in the scoreboard
turn rate doesn't affect shit there's melee carries that work just fine

Ranged Heros in LoL can kite far better than you could in dota

>Talking about most casual game ever conceptualized.
>"What's the competitive scene like?"

I never said the game was fast, I said the movement and combat was
Reading isn't hard

>melee carries

Literally none of them are melee carries.
>Jhin
>Caitlyn

>Dota has global max movespeed for an ultimate and global attack speed steroid

umm lolbabs how can you compete???

olaf, poppy, trundle, lee even. It doesn't matter if they're not building damage they still do a ton of it.

>also banned
Why do they ban for rage? Why not simply silence you forever? or for like a year or something.
bunch of fed bastards. they do it cause they are big and fat.

Olaf is a "FIGHTER"
Trundle is a "FIGHTER"
Lee Sin is a "FIGHTER" (though one that can build like an AD Assassin)
These champs can put out damage, but they need their abilities to do so. The entire idea behind carries is CONSISTENT damage output. If you don't have consistent DPS, you're not a carry. Simple.

>tanky dps means they're melee carries!

this is why dota uses positions 1-5 retard

What is fighter but another word for melee carry? All of them can build full ad anyway

the thing about Dota is that carries are tanky and deal damage as well, carries in Dota get scary to the point where they can nearly 1v5 or even 1v5 if they're super far ahead

That is why heroes of the storm is the superior game, roles matter and heroes feels unique.

Building Full AD in league is fucking retarded on a melee hero unless you have stealth (like the assassins do) or a gap closer (like what Lee Sin can do). Trundle and Olaf building full AD is the players going full retarded.
And fighter is supposed to be basically tanks that don't actually tank. Like some retarded hybrid between a tank and an assassin.

fps dos

tanky dps
they have to have a lot of hp to make up for being melee

>What is fighter but another word for melee carry?
Fighter has never meant melee carry.
Fighter is tanky DPS. Not quite tank/initiator, not quite carry.

And Valve had the brilliant idea of inflating the shit out of the economy, nerfing pushing endlessly, and making mediocre carries into early fighting ones that scale better than previous hypercarries so that this happens 25 minutes into the game instead of 60. And in case you don't, you can get 10 minutes worth of farm for one kill if you do fall behind.