"normal" girl among a cast of quirky warriors, robot maids, monster girls, etc

>"normal" girl among a cast of quirky warriors, robot maids, monster girls, etc
>she's best girl

Is she Mahiru?
Cause if she is then you are damn right user

Buumpka

>I am a loser who needs another "mom"

Also fuck off, her father should be a real "man" taking care of the family but her mom is allowed to go around the world taking pictures instead of being a normal wife? Fuck her

I love you HIYOKO SAIONJI

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actually the worst

Smooch

Dumb

>Liking Hiyoko
Kys

THROATED

Bully-kun I summon thee to bully Saionji.

Best girl is obviously the Queen

Surrounded by sluts and roasties.

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>SHSL gamer
>can't even beat a shitty maze dungeon
You belong in the reserve course

If her father can't keep his woman in the house then he deserves to be cucked

>Junko
>Best anything
Shit taste

Chiaki MIGHT have another gun

Best girl

FAT PIG

ALSO DEAD

>tfw her father is such a cuck his daughter needs to clean up his shit
>his wife is in some war torn country getting blacked

Literally the worst thing about this franchise

You mean best thing

Agreed, I can't say that I like this games because those endings are so shitty, and all because she is legit one of the worse characters I ever saw

So can we all agree that V3 is the best game except for the shitty ending

Godly taste

I haven't played the game yet so thanks for the let down user.
Kodaka doesn't know how to write endings right?

Tell me Mahiru fags if she's so great why is her key chains selling like shit in Japan

Japs have shittaste, that's why the series got so popular there

Kodaka doesn't know how to write period
The only thing he's good at is designing characters
I just want him to hand over this franchise to someone competent

I haven't played it either but based on DR1, DR2, and DR3 I'm not too pessimistic
Sure the anime had a really shit ending but the games were fucking fantastic and the endings were what made them out to be 10/10 instead of just great games

Don't get me wrong, the twists at the end of both games are god tier, but fucking Junko fucks all over.
She is less shitty in the second ending, but maybe I only think that because Hajime is so awesomely written

>thinking sales are what determines who best girl is
I suppose Yuri on Ice is a masterpiece then, user?

The mastermind reveal was the worst things about both games
Instead of having the mastermind have motivations and a personality we get Junko who's entire reason is
>lol despair
and she has to constantly change her personality to keep you from finding out that she's doesn't have a character

V3 sucks because the mastermind is just another Junko except not really
She's with you the entire game but doesn't do anything interesting or has any connection with the rest of the cast she could die and nobody from the cast will care
And her gimmick at the end is that she could turn into better characters

STINKY

But she's what steals the show
She's charismatic, and entertaining
You figure out the stakes were much, much higher than anything you could have imagined and the final boss is a fantastic character
I don't think it could have been done better, how in the fuck do you top a high school girl that brought despair, death and destruction to the entire planet and then trapped her classmates in a fucked up killing game to further crush the morale of all the survivors?
It was overwhelmingly good, the only way to top this is to have an actual devil be the final boss

>But she's what steals the show
Uh what
The final trial is more about the survivors being in a hopeless situation and choosing to either give up or move forward
Junko could be replaced with a cardboard cutout that tells you what the twist is and the final trial won't change at all
Also
>Charismatic
You wish that was all mindhack anime
>entertaining
Her whole personality switching get old real quick so no she's not entertaining

The "good" things that you listed doesn't matter because
The way in which fucked the world is retarded.
The way in which the destroyed world is shown manages the seriousness poorly (the games normally do this well, so it's weirs)
His character is completely unidimensional, and I don't even need to say that she is a Mary Sue

Also, the two ways in which you said that it's a good character aren't justified

And you can exchange Monokuma with just a bunch of recordings, but that would make it much worse
Junko is what makes DR, she's the heart and soul of the series because she represents the opposing force to the protagonists
Look at how incommensurately shit DR3, and especially the DR3 ending was because she wasn't there
She's charismatic to the audience, to the people, and while mindhack anime was a really shit plot device, she still caused the original Tragedy of HPA simply through blackmail and giving a bunch of teenagers weapons
She's pretty much the face of DR, also in the sense that she's literally the one behind Monokuma, which literally is the face of the series
It's retarded because you say so? Well I say it isn't
How is she one-dimensional? How is she a Mary Sue? You're just spouting buzzwords

>Junko
>Good villain
Seriously whatever hope her fans had was squashed by DR3 showing that all of her accomplishments were handed to her on a silver platter like let's take a look
>Corrupted the Ultimate hope
Nope all she did was tell him try despair for a bit and he hopped in on the despair train
>Corrupted the DR2 cast and used their insecurities against them
Nope that was all Mindhack live stream
>Nobody ever suspected her
Because hope's peak apparently don't have security cameras in their top secret facilities and because a gay boxer cared more about staying in the closet than the fate of the world
>Destroyed the world
Because of memes and Mindhack anime

She is crazy and wants to feel despair
There
That's her personality
That's what we call unidimensional
Her ability let's her do anything with little to no effort
Also she knows three people who are as broken as her, but they at least are written decently
Also, the DR3 ending was shit because the took solutions out of their ass, not because it didnt had the shock value that apparently can make everything God tier to you

She still convinced him, besides she didn't need him, she just needed him to come out so she could kickstart the parade and the normalfag uprising against the school, Izuru did nothing except play into her hands
She didn't use their insecurities, she used their feelings of friendship to gather them in the courtroom and brainwash them, it wasn't as cool as it might have been but it's still pretty genius, especially considering how she took care to get Mikan and Chisa on her side, just because it looked effortless makes her superiority that much more apparent
Who says they don't have security cameras? And she figured out that Juzo would be sent after her so she managed to dig up blackmail in advance
Destroying the world like that means she simply played to her strengths
Why is she crazy? What do you mean by crazy?
First of all, there is more to her, just read DR0 for example and don't forget that Monokuma is her in both DR1 and DR2 so everything you liked about him is actually Junko
Who is as broken as her? Izuru, that's it, and I like him, he's a pretty nice character and was pretty cool in DR3
The ending to DR3 wasn't devoid of shock value, hope video, Tengan being behind it all, no killer but all suicides, they were all plot-twists, but they were underwhelming and very disappointing
The only thing I liked about it was the DR2 coming back, because that was actually well executed and the fight scenes were pretty fun

>Junko is what makes DR
No what makes DR is quirky teenagers trapped in a killing game by a sadistic bear
>Look at how incommensurately shit DR3
It was shit because instead of focusing on the characters it spend episodes on shit nobody wanted to see and when we got to the content the fans wanted to see it rushed it
>because she wasn't there
No it was shit because it feels forced and she was there and the episode quality dropped because of it
>She's charismatic to the audience
Nope not to me at the least
>she still caused the original Tragedy of HPA simply through blackmail and giving a bunch of teenagers weapons
Yep and that's why it was so shit because of what we've seen of HPA anything could've destroyed that school
>also in the sense that she's literally the one behind Monokuma, which literally is the face of the series
People treat Monokuma as a different character than Junko. Do you know why because he's actually a good character

>Izuru
>Cool
Yeah no DR3 ruined what little character he had in DR2
>Destroying the world like that means she simply played to her strengths
No because it seems that essentially anyone could've done it if he had Mindhack videos
>she used their feelings of friendship to gather them in the courtroom and brainwash them
So apparently Junko's entire motivation is that she wants people to fall into despair because it's interesting but then she uses mindhack anime to brainwash the DR2 cast into being mindless slave that obey her will
What isn't that against the only ounce of motivation or reason she had for causing despair in the first place

By crazy I mean that she only cares to make other people or her despair, what I think that is a bad base for a character to begin with.
The thing is that there isn't a justification to that obsesion, and it isn't any obsesion, is one that hurts she and a lot of people so it's just feels stupid. I get it, she can know the outcome of everything except for the events with despair involved, but this was added to her character in the third main statement of the series. In the first games it didn't have any justification.
I haven't read DR0, but even if she is wonderfully written in that novel she is its crap in the first two games

What's even worse is the whole
>let's put people into despair because i want to see how they act like
doesn't jive well with her whole
>I'm going to mindhack the DR2 cast into being my mindless slaves
Like doesn't that contradict her goal in the first place

And how does Junko not fit?
She is the sadistic bear
DR didn't just rush it, it was disappointing
It starts off great, and then not only does it contradict itself, especially when they say Monokuma was just a recording when in the beginning he clearly interacts with people, but because the mastermind was really disappointing, and the "final boss" was one of the worst things I've ever seen
Chisa would have been a million times better, I still cannot phantom why they killed her off like that
She wasn't in Mirai, she was there half an episode and it was just for recap purposes, and at least it was funny
Ok, she was charismatic to me
Anyone with the SHSL Analyst, a SHSL Soldier and a SHSL Animator following their orders maybe, which restricts the field only to Junko
Monokuma is Junko, he's one the personalities she has and you're in denial if you say she's not him
What did it ruin?
He's a bored guy who tried out despair to see if it might have been exciting
Yeah nobody else could have learned from Ryota those techniques, and nobody else apart from her could have realized his potential just by casually passing by him
Despair is interesting to you only if you have the SHSL Analyst talent, so only to Izuru and Junko, everyone else isn't in their situation so it doesn't work, they don't love despair, but they can plunged into it and that's what she did
Yes it was a retcon DR3, that's the canon now
It's in DR0, and it was implied in DR1
She's an analyst, she's constantly and always able to predict anything and everything
There are 2 things she isn't able to predict, despair, because people in despair act in an unpredictable way, and Makoto because his luck is irrational even for her
When she brings people to despair, she doesn't do it so they get a despair fetish like she does, that was only for Izuru, she does it so there are more people in despair and acting unpredictable so it's more fun for her

This slut wants to make you watch her fuck her boyfriend, what do you do?

No objections here

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>She is the sadistic bear
As V3 shows anyone can be him so no she isn't the heart of the series
>Chisa would have been a million times better,
Anyone would have been a million times better than what we got i'm still trying to figure out how he build a parallel building underneath the main one without the guy who actually was responsible for building it noticing
>Anyone with the SHSL Analyst, a SHSL Soldier and a SHSL Animator following their orders maybe
Yeah it was so sheer dumb luck and fate that Junko met Mitarai so apparently even Komaeda and Naegi could end the world if they want
>What did it ruin?
Everything instead of being his own character he's just a mind wiped Hinata who stands there not doing anything he's a fucking wallpaper now
He expresses more of a character in Ch0 than he does in the whole of despair arc
He only exists so that DR2 can happen now
>acting unpredictable so it's more fun for her
How is being a mindless slave who can only obey her orders unpredictable?

I thought V3 villain was a Junko fan so Monokuma is obviously behaving like Junko's Monokuma because that's what it's supposed to take after
Without Junko there is no Monokuma because if Junko wasn't there to begin with nobody could take inspiration from it
Thinking about DR3 makes me want to kill Kodaka, let's not do that anymore
Komaeda and Naegi have super weird luck always affecting their actions, Junko doesn't have luck, she's an analyst, she could have not bumped into him, but as soon as she did she seized the opportunity
Izuru was always that, the bored genius who looks down on people
Besides he saves Junko's life
She doesn't give them orders, she brainwashed them with the generic objective of spreading despair everywhere

A character isn't good for their actions, even if Junko created Monokuma their behavior is almost completely different if Junko is a bad character on his own Monokuma isn't going to make her good. Saying that she is Monokuma even feels out of place when they act completely different

Junko didn't just create Monokuma, she IS Monokuma
Everytime Monokuma speaks, it's Junko, everytime he does anything at all, it's Junko
That's one of Junko's traits, she literally has multiple personalities, Monokuma happens to be one of them
She even uses it in the trials

>Izuru was always that, the bored genius who looks down on people
He's not anymore he's retard who only cares about
>muh gamer waifu
and the only thing interesting about his character
>being a bored god
isn't expanded on in any way he's just there so that DR2 can happen if you cut him out of despair arc nothing would change
>Junko
The problem is that all her victories in despair are handed to her on a silver platter she doesn't have to do much to win everything goes exactly as her plan nothing interesting happens
>She doesn't give them orders
They're still mindless slaves who aren't unpredictable in any way

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you made it unwinnable so you could use it for muh brainwashing enoshitter

That's a fusion of Hajime and Izuru, not just Izuru
Did the different eyes not tip you off?
Yes it does, there is no more uprising from the reserve course because Junko can't say that HPA is using their money to make super killers
The entire plot falls apart
Because she's a SHSL Analyst, of fucking course she wins easy, she can predict everyone's behavior so well she's bored of it, that's the point, everything is effortless because she can plan years ahead of time and everything will inevitably go according to her will unless despair or Makoto are involved
Remember how even she was surprised when Izuru got shot. because despair was unpredictable
They're not mindless, and they're spreading despair to billions, all to create a world full of despair

Its on the thin line between cute and a deformed alien

Now now, she never makes it impossible, the despair of a possible defeat is just that great

tell it to lerche

You mean tell it to Chiaki, she's the one who lost

Literally Natalie from Harvest Moon.

Everything about her screamed DEFAULT AND BORING.
She's the only waifu on the island from the start.
She never leaves the island.
She works at nearby store and everything.

Turns out she's the only character in the game with a real fucking personality. And it's a good one.

Then why you killed Chiaki in a game?
She is the ultimate gamer, and the ultimates are broken as shit so given that you weren't playing against her directly she would have exploited the hell out of that possibility

Because apparently Chiaki wasn't good enough to beat Junko's maze

I want to marry and have children with Junko Enoshima

I'm sure she'd love the idea of getting impregnated by a Sup Forumsirgin

I'm a total loser with a future that almost certainly will dead-end by 30. I'm also unattractive and spend all day doing nothing but masturbating and shitposting. Being impregnated by a failure such as me would probably be a very lucrative source of despair for her

>fans will get despair of having their idol impreganted by an ugly loser
>she gets despair from being impregnated by an ugly loser
So far so good
The problem is, how are you going to get despair from this?

She'd force me to watch another much more capable man fuck her

Yukiko in a nutshell.

How would the other men get despair?

this thread could use some best sister

he's gay

She would castrate them afterwards.

So Ifumi impregnates Junko then Munakata fucks her?

I want that doujin

So the gay guy gets raped?
Sounds good
Go ahead
Sounds fun

one more, then I'll be on my way

fucking normie waifufags, make way for the best character in V3

They're both best girl when they work together
Junko is the brains and Mukuro is the brawns
Without Junko Mukuro doesn't have anyone that orders her to kill, without Mukuro Junko has nobody that kills people she wants dead
They work well as a team

I thought Juzo was the gay dude
Best character huh?
I swear if they don't get David Hayter to voice him I'm gonna be mad

why is the bullet box holder all the way up at the front

It's NISA so I wouldn't have much hope for them actually being clever enough to ask Hayter.
honestly every character in V3 is god tier, best cast by far

Alright so I have reasons to like most of the cast, but tell me about Kirumi. Why is she good?

Someone ask him on Twitter or something
We need Hayter

Alright, I'll go through her in two sections. Non-spoilery shit and spoilery shit.

Non-spoilers wise she's probably one of the more normal cast members, giving a very grounded perspective while also working to keep everyone well fed and such. She's a dutiful person.

Most of my like for her comes from the fact that she's actually the secret prime minister of Japan and when she's told her country needs her, she turns into a bitch who uses people to get out. She uses Hoshi's depression to kill him and then almost gets everyone else to kill themselves too. She's dedicated to a good cause of protecting her country, and she would do anything for that cause.

Thought she was supposed to be the main girl until the 2nd case got going, she was getting more focus than the others and talked to the mc a lot. Sonia basically took over her role in the story

>The entire plot falls apart
The entire twist of DR2 falls apart because it was stated by kirigiri that nobody knew who Izuru was or if he even existed but apparently there's a video of him killing the entire student council
>there is no more uprising from the reserve course
There's literally hundreds of ways you can get the reserve course to rebel so no he wasn't important
>They're not mindless
Um yes they're mindless they have nothing in their minds except the goal of spreading despair.
>when Izuru got shot
Don't remind me that was stupid as shit

Hmm, she sounds interesting enough. But I think I'll just have to see her in game before I have a concrete opinion.

>petite figure, b or c-cup
>short hair with no or a single defining embellishment
>very large and defined pupils in a pale warm-shifted complement of hair color
>not overly emotive, always a tinge of worry/anxiety or 'distance' in facial expression
>very blank/neutral personality generally, belying her actual personality of radical-edging-insane dedication to her chosen pursuits/interests/goals

cheat sheet for waifu crafting

Yeah, I understand that. I'd still say it's the best cast. Even the weakest links are still pretty good.

That was covered up by HPA
It was said in DR0, Junko was the one who leaked it to the reserve course and brainwashed them, in DR0 itself it says they watched the recording thousands of times each
How do you even do that?
They aren't mindless, look at Chisa, she wasn't mindless, mindless means literally unable to think, like a zombie
It happened because despair was so unpredictable it made a decapitated corpse fire a gun
Yeah, despair is really weird like that

>That was covered up by HPA
HPA had riots at the front gate and all the staff seemed to know about the human experimentation
While in DR2 Kirigiri states she didn't even find evidence that Izuru even exists so which one's which
>They're not mindless
It doesn't matter if they're mindless or not the point is that Junko wants to see how people act when falling to despair brainwashing people to love despair unconditionally is against that motive

I wanna Miu Miu's Mius!

It was covered up
Read DR0, none of the talented students actually knows why they're protesting, it's all being covered up, it's why they call it the parade
In DR0 Kyoko asks her dad about it and he doesn't tell her, when she's investigating her dad tells her to stop
No, Junko wants to see people in despair, as long as they are in despair she's happy

You want to what, user~?

I wanna MIU! MIU'S! MIUS!
i also wanna help her with her abandonment issues

>It was covered up
Yeah no i could get some of the dumb ones not knowing but people like Togami and Kirigiri should've investigated why the reserve course were rioting and should've found the whole human experimentation and student council killing game