Good old times when we had demos for every new game

good old times when we had demos for every new game.

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>tfw even games that had demos had them removed from steam
I just wanted to try Jedi Academy without pirating it

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I donno man, all my games have demos.
They all play annoying intro music tho.

Demos were needed when gaming journalism wasn't developed like it is now.
Right now every other faggot on youtube gets early review copies, so you can easily see for yourself what the game is like.

Making demos now is just a waste of development time. Although I must admit they do make demos for exhibits and they could just release those for the general public. The problem is though, those demos do a poor job at representing the final product, as they often differ drastically from what the actual game will look like, or even run on a different hardware entirely.

Demo was like a tiny piece of pie on promotional stand served by a cute hostess.

muh boooooom!

I remember spending more time with demos than with the full game...

>MH4U demo comes out
>it has unlimited uses with working online
>spend 70+ hours playing it
>when I get to Gore in the full game it's a cakewalk

I used to play the Halo: Combat Evolved multiplayer demo. Oh boy... I spent hundreds of hours there.

>The problem is though, those demos do a poor job at representing the final product, as they often differ drastically from what the actual game will look like, or even run on a different hardware entirely.
How is watching some Youtube fag playing a review copy any different though? Those guys all have full retard builds with SLI 1080s and shit like that. I need to know how a game's going to run on my toaster before I consider buying it.

>1999 anno Domini
>This demo works slow. Sure that the final game will run at 60fps in my pc!

A fair point. PC games usually announce their recommended/minimal specs before release, so you can check if you can run them or not.
And in case of Steam games you can simply try them and refund if they're poorly optimized.

>tfw used to get a monthly playstation 1 magazine that always came with a free demo

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The SWAT 3 demo had more replay value than most shooters

Same with PC here! Good old free CD's full of demos, software, and even free games!

Joke's on them, the demo for this game sold me and thousands of others on the purchase.

Is this good?

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How about you, I don't know, try the demo?

Have to agree with , just try the demo.
The progress carries over, tough you'd have to hold off patching to keep the saves as well.

Most publishers know their product is shit or unremarkable. They want to push preorders and a demo might sway potential buyers if it isn't noteworthy.

I-i just wanted to know your opinion.

>tfw even games that had demos had them removed from steam
You can still download them from other places?

>Right now every other faggot on youtube gets early review copies
I'm not a faggot on YouTube, so I don't get an "early review copy".
>so you can easily see for yourself what the game is like
Wrong, I can't.

Steam should make some sort of playable version mandatory.

>If you submit a game without an accompanying demo we will allow user to install your game and play for an hour.

Many problems solved.

I'm very sorry that you're blind, user.
Maybe they'll make braille monitor compatible games one day.

>I'm very sorry that you're blind, user.
I don't even care, PS4 has loads of playable demos.

But why should they? Most teens nowadays don't care/know about things like demos and they'd only put off future game developers

>And in case of Steam games you can simply try them and refund if they're poorly optimized.
And in case of PS4 I can try Watch Dogs 2 for 3 hours FOR FREE and without paying a penny in advance.
How is that?

>Making demos now is just a waste of development time
This guy is actually right - making a demo isn't just "tick off unnecessary boxes", unless you build your system this way from a ground up, and there is no reason to do so

How's what? PS4 has unified hardware. The demo on your PS4 would run just the same as on any other PS4.

>How's what? PS4 has unified hardware. The demo on your PS4 would run just the same as on any other PS4.
Who cares about hardware?
I can try out games for free and see if I like them.

>good old times when we had demos

Fucking children.
The good old times were when you got a third of the game for free.

>nostalgiaing imbeciles the thread

lots of games have demos now
lots dont
same as two decades ago
nostalgiafags are so fucking annoying man

i had a whole bunch of shareware dos games when i was young

The Phantom Pain had a demo

What's the point of demos when you can just demo the game yourself before deciding whether or not to refund it?

Good times when maps were created left and right before companies decided to sell 4 of them for $15

Seriously, i never thought we were stupid enough to pay for them.

It still has active servers going.

>The good old times were when you got a third of the game for free.
It was essentially Steam Greenlight - 90s edition.
Unlike the Early Access scams of today it didn't cost any money to try out incomplete games.

>What's the point of demos when you can just demo the game yourself before deciding whether or not to refund it?
Because to refund it, I have to feed Valve money first for a region-locked censored version.
I prefer to get my games elsewhere.

Ok then stop bitching.

So, you prefer to buy games from devs, that don't release demos, and buy them at places that don't offer refunds, yet you hate Valve?

most western developers just aren't confident in their product and have to rely on hype.
meanwhile japanese games like Dragon Quest Builders, Odin Sphere Leifthrasir, Nier Automata, Project Diva X/FT, Tales Of Berseria and Gravity Rush 2 had demos.
FFXV had like 3 for fucks sake.

Is it so hard to understand that I'm not going to pay $100+ for a region-locked and censored game, just because I can refund it for 2 hours?

Why are you mad at Valve though? You should be mad at your government and it's economical policies. Shouldn't have elected it then.

>journalism has developed into a marketing tool for companies, so its okay to not be able to test the product you are buying

They don't do demos because it takes work to make them, and because making people buy blindly is of the utmost importance of all AAA vidya today.

Buy our game
Hate our game
So you are ready to buy the next one.

I still think demos are an excellent idea. For every kind of game. I certainly would try out more games if they had demos instead of just skipping over them.

Also watching some faggot on youtube play a game is sort of fuckey.

>most western developers just aren't confident in their product and have to rely on hype.
They know they sell garbage.
>meanwhile japanese games like Dragon Quest Builders, Odin Sphere Leifthrasir, Nier Automata, Project Diva X/FT, Tales Of Berseria and Gravity Rush 2 had demos.
And these demos sold me on their games. A few ones weren't my cup of tea. But that's what demos are for.
>Why are you mad at Valve though?
Huh? I simply ignore their shitty digital store and go buy my games elsewhere.
>You should be mad at your government and it's economical policies.
For what? For not making laws to force Valve into selling me cheap downloads? It's Valve and the publishers who decide on the pricing and on censoring shit.
>Shouldn't have elected it then.
Do you even have a fucking clue about the real world, underage faggot?

People censor things because of laws you dumb shitlord. If your country has shitty censor laws that's not Valves fault.

>publishers must be assigning regional prices at random
>surely it has nothing to do with the taxes my country puts on their goods
You're the one who doesn't have a clue, kid.

>People censor things because of laws
Publishers censor video games because of two reasons:
They want to sell them to children like you.
They want to get them onto store shelves so children like you can see them and stores don't sell uncensored video games, because video games are for children.

I think your post just gave me a cut.

>If your country has shitty censor laws that's not Valves fault.
But it is Valve's fault.
They literally caused many regional curation laws by releasing Counter-Strike.
Video games and especially console games would be much better nowadays, if we could erase Valve Software from history.

Yeah but you shouldn't have to. Its more of a Facebook type service than a gamimg service nowdays. So many games on steam just straight up don't work, too. I just wanna play Deadly Premonition

Well what brings you then, to Sup Forums - video games

>PS1/2 demo disks had cool menus and extras
>PS3 demo disks were just stuff you installed to the system
I liked that PS VR had a demo disk with a VR interface.

>PS1 demo disc 7

The main problem is Western game developers, especially Americans.
Until the 90s we had a Japanese-dominated video game industry and there was no issue with it.
If it wasn't for Americans, we could buy uncensored Japanese video games worldwide (minus Islamic shitholes) today.
Then Americans decided to put edgy shit like nazi terrorists and ISIS-tier beheading into video games AND (that's the important part) tried to sell that to children. That's where law makers of various countries stepped in und fucked everything up for everyone.
More importantly: All that shit happened on PC only, but console games had to suffer from it.

Yeah, Doom, Mortal Kombat, Postal and all that controversy was those clowns over at America trying to push the shock factor which worked for the beginning but fucked everything later on.

>every
maybe for PC

Indeed. Now these fucking Americans force GBLT themes on children, until law makers of more conservative countries step in again and start censoring ALL video games again.
It will start with Druckmann's shit getting banned in Russia and East Europe at some point.

Soul Reaver lighthouse demo was like 5-10mins long. but i replayed it day after day, until the full game was released.

Bunch of console games also have demo included somewhere, though their purpose is just more into advertisement rather than genuinely just letting you try the game.