Why does Sup Forums want this to flop?

Why does Sup Forums want this to flop?

Why does Sup Forums want ANY games to flop at all? Seriously, why do you actually *want* games to be shit? No other board is like this.

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Gotta support the team

I don't want it to flop though

Delusional fanboys,hell even worse,delusional people

Sup Forums bets on console sales

I want a single dominant handheld again so I'm moderately hyped for this.

Hoping the Lego games get full versions on this and not stripped down.

>why doesn't Sup Forums support the most outdated piece of tech ever released?
>Why doesn't Sup Forums want to waste 400 dollars on a product barely stronger than the Wii u?
>Why doesn't Sup Forums want to be burned by a company who is ok with only releasing 3-4 games per year?
>Why doesn't Sup Forums like large droughts with no games being released?
>Why Sup Forums?

The best thing about the PS4 isn't playing the games. It's showing everyone online that they sold better and got better review scores than the competition.

I really do! It's really nice to have the things and people I dislike to fail spectacularly.

I'd go as so far as to offer my souls to Satan to have the Switch flop, but it seems several people have already done that because the Switch looks like hot garbage kek!

people, even on Sup Forums, want to go with the us vs them mentality and get behind something to support (choice of gaming console).

I don't want the switch to flop, just as much as I don't want any console to flop.

>nogames
>expensive
>wii-u 2.1
>the only game worth playing is a wii-u port
>pay for online (which is cheap, but it also reeks of them implementing it in a half-assed way)

and idiots pretending its a handheld system with that shit-tier batterylife

You're confusing cause and effect here

Sup Forums wants games to flop because they're shit

There never would have been a TORtanic if they just made a good KOTOR 3

Because most of Sup Forums are sony or niggersoft fanboys. I don't care about any of them. Only consoles I have are Nintendo 64 for nostalgia and 3DS for actually playing. My laptop is not so powerful to really enjoy playing with it, so I feel like upgrading from 3DS to Switch sounds nice.

I don't really enjoy PS4 controller and xbone has nice controller, but their games don't interest me at all.

Poor people can't afford all the console + PC so they just shitpost about how they want it to fail since they can't afford it.

>Why does Sup Forums want this to flop?
Most of Sup Forums doesn't you dumb faggot. Being honestly disappointed out what we're seeing and what Nintendo's strategy is and even getting kind of mad about it is the EXACT FUCKING OPPOSITE of "wanting it to flop", people get mad at stuff they care about. The scariest thing for a company isn't getting rage posting per se, because that means people still give enough of a shit to spend any mental energy at all. The scariest thing is silence. Remember the Ouya? Sure people shat on it a bit for being bad, but very rapidly the real sign of failure was just that it was never even talked about at all. It was irrelevant.

Contrary lots of Sup Forums want Nintendo to do well and want their IPs to shine, but we don't think they're going about it the right way. I certainly don't. I think their management is extremely fossilized and has not learned lessons from the past or are unable to recognize how things have shifted. They aren't adapting well. That makes for worse vidya, and that sucks.

You're just yet another strawmanning fag who thinks people not liking something is equivalent to them hating the company or some shit. Stop being so personally and emotionally invested in faceless megacorps. God damn.

TORtanic happened.

>games = hardware
Not the same thing dumbfuck. People don't like bad hardware precisely because it makes for games flopping that shouldn't flop. There's a balance between competition and pointless market fragmentation, and well chosen spec/cost tradeoffs vs stupid ones due to gimmicks.

Lowkey the President of Nintendo wants this to flop so he can convince the rest of the company that going complete mobile is the only option.

Maybe they try to play it safe like always. Sounds like better plan to release classic IPs regulary, than just push all out at once. Better for business in long run, but bad for new console launch. Maybe they want to believe Zelda will be enough to launch

Same reason why Sup Forums want PS4 to flop

Is there actually anything to play on it after finishing Zelda?

I wanted the Vita to flop to punish Sony for fucking with their game studios, notable the guys who made Patapon.

Other than that, I wanted the Xbox One to flop for being anti-consumer as fuck. I didn't want the PS4 to flop, but I did want to see it acquire a single fucking game worth playing.

suck more japanese dicks OP, shilling their product doesnt make you a friend of any kind for nintendo, you´re just advertiser who does it for free out of manchild autism

Because I like seeing smug console shills damage control. Your tears are delicious.

Fuck Nintendo. They're so out of touch with their customers, I don't even know how they're still in business.

Sup Forums is Neogaf-lite, majority of the userbase thinks of themselves as armchair video game industry workers or armchair economists.

Being correct about something flopping before it comes out makes you look smart and if you're wrong you can just say you were pleasantly surprised.

>Why does Sup Forums want this to flop?

because nintendo must learn their lesson, or become history.

Because the """""joycons""""" are retarded

>Why does Sup Forums want this to flop?

Anyone that doesn't drink the nintendo kool-aid would rather Nintendo be a software only company making mobile games for smart phones and big games for PC.

Anyone that is on the Nintendo Kool-Aid knows that if the Switch manages to sell even a tiny bit that it will kill the 3ds and leave everyone with one Nintendo console.

Are you talking about the PS3 and PS4?

>Maybe they try to play it safe like always.
They AREN'T though, that's part of the whole problem! The "safe" thing to do would be to focus purely on their vidya, on their software and creative IPs, with their hardware being a very vidya focused, simple and reasonably powerful without being stupid pricey. Basically that's what Sony wised up and did with the PS4, they had zero expensive gimmicks, most of the BOM for that thing went into silicon and internals.

Nintendo's issue is that they're still living in the 1990s and 00s. Back then you really did have to design your own silicon and deal with fabs and such and it was stupid expensive to aim for the top. At the end of that era Sony partnered with IBM/Toshiba and put something like a billion dollary dingos into the fucking Cell. Nintendo had a one-time event with the Wii where they didn't play that game vs Sony/MS and it worked well for them.

But one-time, because the industry was already changing. Almost nobody designs their own anymore, no console (or normal PC either) pushes the high end, even those that do design their own outside of Intel have it made at a foundry, etc. Now you call up AMD or whatever and tell them what your budget is and what balance you want and they'll make you an SOC. Having a competitive console (or PC) is not a huge capex suck, and that changes the economic logic again. But Nintendo keeps doing gimmicks and worse pricey ones. This results in the worst of all worlds. I really wish they would stop precisely because their IPs are fucking awesome and they don't need that shit. They've got great devs and engineers who are being fucking wasted. It does in fact rustle me. I hate potential that's wasted, nothing angers me more in vidya.

Because Sony and M$ fans have unflushable pride in the realism of the limited color range of fecal matter. Anything outside that range is "childish".

Good, the 3ds is shit.

>I want Nintendo to fail so they will develop software for platforms I personally own
Ah. Noted.

Nintendo is a great game developer but a god-awful company that makes shitty console hardware.
Nintendo is pushing it's shitty console hardware on to the handheld division.
Sony is also a shitty company.
Microsoft is dawdling.

second game crash when
second game crash when
second game crash when

Sony doesn't break even on consoles until 30M units while nintendo profits from jump. Nintendo is playing it safer than anyone else.

>EU pre-orders are still available despite Nintendo's artificial scarcity tactics
>Ebay scalping market is tanking, some sellers are selling at cost+tax, several going for $350 with free shipping
>Super Bowl ad didn't spark interest at all
It's going to flop. Sup Forums wanting it to happen isn't the relevant point to take away from this

>Anyone that is on the Nintendo Kool-Aid knows that if the Switch manages to sell even a tiny bit that it will kill the 3ds and leave everyone with one Nintendo console.
PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN ANYWAY. God damn the 3DS is such garbage and is killing the potential of so much vidya. Nintendo are such lazy greedy shits in handhelds, always have been.

>I want Nintendo to fail so that they can be played on objectively better hardware

Fixed that for you chump.

We should all buy two switches so it don't flop

Anyone else ironically getting very excited for the 4th?
I pre-ordered just because it's a Nintendo / Sony console and I'm a fag that always likes to get them on release, but I'm actually getting a bit hyped.

Why would I want a badly designed console to succeed? So that the industry will push out more badly planned systems?

Do you think that sounds less petty?

But at least they try to do something different, even if the fails it is a good thing for gaming. Think about it a moment.

Xbone and PS4 both are literally the same things in eyes of normal consumer. Friends play on either one so they go to either one camp and stay there. Nintendo at least tries to be different and try to change how we play, you have to give them some credit for it to have balls to do it.

I'll buy 3 then

Do your part!

EU pre-orders are like that because Nintendo didn't even give EU stores information on how many units they'd receive, they only bothered to with Japan and US.
Likely because the EU market is a lot more spread out, and every country has different buying habits. They're harder to predict, so decide on shipment numbers after receiving pre-orders for Europe.

>Why does Sup Forums
Nice generalization faggot. The only people who want the Switch to flop are console warrior kiddies.

>Why does Sup Forums want ANY games to flop at all? Seriously, why do you actually *want* games to be shit? No other board is like this.
Any game that supports cancerous practices, like service games and microtransactions, deserve to fail. Most Western AAA games fall under this boat.

Dumb Console warrior fanboys

>we will never get another video game industry crash

Ohh poor you...videogames are making you a slave...Poor you

>Sony doesn't break even on consoles
Fresh """"knowledge"""" from the 90s and 00s, are you from Nintendo Management? PS4 was never sold at loss, just break even or tiny profit. The PS3 was a big money pit and that was precisely what I talked about, and precisely the point is that that doesn't happen anymore in this space because of the drastic change in capex.

Seriously user, go read a fucking financial report on this shit if nothing else. Playstation division accounted for the bulk of Sony's profits last year, like practically all of it.

Regardless of what people want, it won't flop. It probably won't hit Wii level sales but it won't be a Wii U 2.

>It's petty to not want to have to buy a redundant piece of hardware so that some salarymen in Japan can continue to get drunk after work every night

I think it's more petty to keep games locked into one ecosystem.

>inb4 B-B-BUT muh innovative HD rumble

Why are you defending this shithole? Don't delude yourself, 90% of the threads about the switch are just lazy shitposting.
I would be surprised if more than 25% of this board actually believes the retarded garbage they post on a regular basis.

Nintendo has to do "gimmicks" to remain relevant.

It has nothing to do with balls. If Nintendo made a console that was exactly the same as whatever Sony and Microsoft are making it would be their worst selling console. No one would buy it. People who think that the reason third parties ignore Nintendo is due to a lack of power are really misguided, if Nintendo made a console that's more powerful than the PS4 it would still be in the exact same position it is right now with third parties.

The Switch is a pretty good idea by Nintendo,
the issue right now is the price but we'll see how much that bothers people in the end when the thing actually releases.

So the industry can crash and be reborn.

Don't know if you knew this, but the Switch lineup is garbage.

>Why does Sup Forums want this to flop?
Does not matter what you want. its gonna flop anyway and there is nothing you can do about it you stupid nintencuck.

>>Super Bowl ad didn't spark interest at all
google.com/trends/explore?q="Switch pre-order","PS4 pre-order"
What did he mean by this?

Great argument faggot. The 3DS sold 63+ million units off of Nintendo First Party games and Japanese Third Parties games. If the Switch replicates that success, which it's looking like already, it'll be perfectly fine and can easily sell 35+ million.

Hardware price is barely relevant. Nintendo skipping graphical leaps since the Wii was because of software development costs. The entire AAA blockbuster industry operates on gargantuan dev costs and marketing budgets, and everything has to sell 5+ million to break even.

Meanwhile Nintendo develops BotW and was internally worried about the team size, and it only needs to sell 2 million. Sony doesn't care. Their own games barely sell and they take the same $5 cut from every third party game regardless of the budget.

Pretty well said. Good idea, Switch being more powerful wouldn't really bring anything to system other than more price. I still play 3DS all the time and the screen resolution haven't really bothered me too much. 720p sounds like great deal after that....

Here's a crazy thought, maybe people just don't care for a $300 Zelda, mario, and pokemon machine

google.com/trends/explore?q=ps4,nintendo switch,xbox one

Take a look at this nintencuck.

The switch will end up just like the PiiU.

But I don't want it to flop, I just want a fun system that lets me play my Fire Emblems, my Xenoblades, and with any luck, my F-Zeros and my WarioWares.
I want Breath of the Wild to flop because it looks like a piece of trash.

The price is actually pretty good considering what it is. It's equivalent to the android tablet that has the market recognition for and can play actual games that faggots dream about. Nevermind that it doesn't do other tablet shit right now, ipads that cost twice as much don't even do it well.

I want it to flop so Nintendo can go third party already. Their games are wasted on underpowered hardware with archaic online infrastructures.

>But at least they try to do something different, even if the fails it is a good thing for gaming. Think about it a moment.
You think about it, and then realize THAT'S FUCKING STUPID. There is zero prize for "trying your best :) :) :)", it's a commercial enterprise, and gimmicks and "change just because" has zero fucking value for vidya either. What matters is execution and most of all the vidya itself, not the input mechanisms. "Trying something different" can and continues to be done perfectly well with KB+M and the same old controllers and screens. Trying something different should be the job primarily of developers. The hardware is just there to support them. Retreating to pricey gimmicks is a sign of dead creativity in the software side and that's not good.

>Nintendo at least tries to be different and try to change how we play, you have to give them some credit for it to have balls to do it.
No I don't, at all. "Having balls" is not a good thing if you're retarded about it. I hate the meme that "courage" is always a positive attribute. Nintendo didn't need that shit with the NES, the SNES, the N64, or the GameCube and they still don't. Hell, even with the Wii their gimmick was at least CHEAP.

Frankly I don't think you're much a real fan of Nintendo, "no true scotsman fallacy" and all that aside. I'm serious. Real fans want Nintendo to make awesome vidya and to ACTUALLY BE SUCCESSFUL. That means not just going along with anything. Real fans criticize when appropriate.

>Reborn
user, the gaming ship has been invaded by normies and is going down. Admit it

Worked for every single Nintendo handheld.

>google.com/trends/explore?q="Switch pre-order","PS4 pre-order"
The fact that PS4 pre-order continues after November 2013 should cue you in on how worthless this data is

Pretty hyped for this thing to flop and watch all the crying nintendo fans try to justify their purchase

The 3ds was a flop too. The Handheld market is done for, deal with it you stupid nintencuck.

Every board is like this.
>Why does Sup Forums hate apple?
>Why does Sup Forums hate good anime?
>Why does Sup Forums hate football?
>Why does /fit/ hate themselves?
>Why does Sup Forums hate everyone?

Don't act so surprised.

Because people somehow need to validate their purchase of a

>home console
>getting a Pokemon game
Your normie is showing.

>something that has nothing to do with buying it
Lol
Hope you enjoy my fat load in your mouth once it sells the full 3 million shipment month 1, and keeps selling

it's confirmed though

>Sony doesn't limit PS4 pre-orders
>You can go to your favorite retailer and just order one
>Nintendo limits Switch pre-order
>People search google looking for places that still take them
Woah.....
So this is the power...
Of artificial scarcity.....

It's a hybrid

>Nintendo goes third party
>Sign a deal with Sony
>sony takes over consoles
>xbox dies
And then what? PC implements paid online just to keep up?

The damage control will be off the charts.

Hourly "Why dont you buy the PiiU2 ;_;" threads. Rage fits about how Sony is killing gaming etc.

Cant wait.

I want it to flop so that Nintendo can make a real console

>garbage hardware that is already severely outdated
>useless gimmick
>shitty battery life
>internal hdd is pretty much non-existent and you must buy your own microsd card
>stupidly high price
Yeah nah mate, this shit HAS to flop so nintendo may finally learn to get their shit together instead of screwing its userbase over since first DS.

>>Sony doesn't limit PS4 pre-orders
That's a blatant fucking lie though.

cinemablend.com/games/GameStop-PS4-Pre-Orders-All-Sold-Out-57332.html

Why would you do that?
Just go on Sup Forums and lie / suck Kaz's small 3 inch dick?

lel, this denial.

If it has good games I'll have to wait 5 years until an emulator

If Nintendo stops making consoles, I can play their games on my PS4 or Steam

people love a tragedy

If it does well I'll become the new Ruggarell and I will make daily "Why don't you own a Switch yet" threads just to piss you faggots off despite being an idort.

>Nintendo made a console that was exactly the same as whatever Sony and Microsoft are making it would be their worst selling console. No one would buy it.
Stupidest shit to be posted on Sup Forums. What the fuck user, you're actually arguing literally that people bought the Wii or Wii U or GC or N64 or anything for their controllers? As opposed for Nintendo's vidya?

It's the total opposite: what sales Nintendo got came 100% wholely and solely from people who WANTED NINTENDO'S GAMES. A powerful focused price competitive vidya console from Nintendo would, drumroll, still be the only place to get Nintendo's games! Except that they'd be even better because Nintendo's excellent devs would have a lot more resources to work with and wouldn't have to spend any time trying to wrestle with whatever the latest gimmick Nintendo has thought up. There'd be no compromises vs anything else. Anyone who was a Nintendo fan and got a Wii U would still get it, and there'd be an opportunity for people who didn't, particularly because

>People who think that the reason third parties ignore Nintendo is due to a lack of power are really misguided, if Nintendo made a console that's more powerful than the PS4 it would still be in the exact same position it is right now with third parties.
Source: your asshole. These days most 3rd party devs use middleware, so it's trivial to multiplat so long as core capabilities and inputs are close. Nintendo has been the only one where they aren't close.

Fuck you closet Nintendo haters. You're the cancer killing the company I love.

I doubt they even made 500k units available for pre-order

Why do you think they stopped making traditional consoles after the Gamecube?

My tradition has pretty much always been getting the latest Nintendo console to compliment my PC so it's pretty much an obligatory buy for me.

Sup Forums has been PC+Nintendo for a while now. It's just that the Switch is so close to release, and sonyggers are in full damage control for some reason.

Its ARM based. You dont have to wait that long.

Nice

Yes, I find your denial palpable

Nintendo even came out and said that orders were exceeding expectations, something they did not say for Wii-U

They made 2 million available across all retailers IIRC, that's their month 1 shipment.

If you were a real fan of Nintendo you'd buy Switch day 1 and every single Nintendo game full price

pushsquare.com/news/2016/10/playstation_vr_has_sold_out_on_amazon_in_uk_and_us
Its ok if sony does it

>Sup Forums has been PC+Nintendo for a while now
this is nintenyearolds' favorite meme

>Its ARM based. You dont have to wait that long.
Ah yes
3DS emulator getting stable any day now
Any
day
now