Nintendo Switch's marketing

Have YOU been seeing any promotional material of the Switch at your local store, Sup Forums?
How does it compare to the Wii U's promotional material prior to release?

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Well I only knew what the Wii U was about 4 months after it's release, so I'd say they're already doing way better

*tumble weeds*

My local gamestop has been removing the Wii U stock to replace it with Switch material. Wii U section is now on par with Vita section, just a small shelf hidden away in the corner of the store.

Wii U section at Walmart yesterday

Wow they have a Vita section? Must have a lot of floor space to spare..

Thats a big selection of games.

It's just a small shelf of mostly used Vita games. You would have never thought it was a Vita section unless you walked nearby it since there's no sign or marketing..

I mean... it is the launch lineup.

Normies know switch is a new console, that is enough.

The question is are they willing to drop $300+$60+tax on a Zelda machine?

I think you mean PS4 section
Am I cool yet

They moved the PS4 section to where the Wii U stuff used to be?

My local GAME just has a small notice stating they're taking deposits on pre-orders. The notice isn't particularly exciting and was clearly typed up on word in about 4 seconds.

DELETE!!

Like fucking clockwork.

i agree

After Zelda we won't need any more games.

Why do Switch games need those giant cases when all it comes with is a SD card size cartridge? Seems like a huge waste of plastic.

I'm getting it for Zelda, Bomberman, Smash, Oddesy, and maybe Pokémon. That's enough to coax me into getting it.

I'm more of a Sony guy myself but I hope this goes good for Nintendo. I'm just worried about their game selection. Zelda will be great, but that's really all there is till Arms. Mario Kart is overpriced and I doubt it'll match the Wii U version's sales. Not having 1, 2, Switch as a pack-in is probably their biggest mistake imo. Bomberman is not even worth mentioning. I just feel they need to get that normie crowd locked down.

You should wait a few years until they come out with discounted bundles, release some more games, and come out with the """NEW""" Nintendo Switch like New 3DS, PS4 Pro, Xbox Scorpio, and so on.

Hoping that someone competes with sony is the best thing sony fanboys can do, even if they're not planning to buy the rival.

Monopolies are ALWAYS awful.

Why are you counting just the first party games?
Why didn't you count 1-2 Switch or ARMS?

fixed for you fampai

The problem with this logic is that Nintendo doesn't think of Sony and MS as competitors, and Sony and MS likely feel the same way

Nintendo is off in their own little bubble and it really has no effect on the core gamer demographic at all. Just like the Wii didn't affect anything. Sony and MS tried to copy the motion games gimmick and everyone hated it

I think they are obviously doing better than with the Wii U because even my normie girlfriend is ridiculously excited for this thing, and I even tried to tell her why she doesn't need one right now, when all she plays is Animal Crossing, and she still wants a Switch

I overheard my 30 and 40 year old co-workers talking about how hyped they are, it's ridiculous

With the Wii U many people didn't even realize it was actually not just a pointless new addon for the Wii, they didn't make it clear enough with the lack of marketing and retarded name, and I completely missed that release window, I only learned that it was actually out like a few months after it was there, they totally fucked that up and that was literally the only reason why nobody cared about that console ever, because they never catched up there, they never marketed the Wii U as good as the 3DS or now the Switch

and now the Switch is completely sold out everywhere in my area, because literally everyone and their mother want it

I'm okay with a Sony monopoly in the console space, PS2 was the monopoly of choice and it had a fantastic library of games and was dirt cheap to buy. PS4 is the console monopoly of choice right now too and 2017 library is already fucking amazing. Nioh, Gravity Rush 2, Nier Automata, FFXIV Stormblood, New Gran Turismo, Kingdom Hearts III, Red Dead Redemption 2, Tales of Berseria, all these amazing games.

That's a lot of multiplats. Some of them are nearly a decade old too

Indeed.
But i see a pile of stupid fanboys hoping everyone but their favourite company goes away.

For you.

>counting $50 tech demos

2017 releases still look dry as fuck.
>Tales on Nintendo
>After Namco announced years ago that mainline Tales games are now a Playstation/PC franchise
lmao enjoy your shitty spinoff like Symphonia 2

>But i see a pile of stupid fanboys hoping everyone but their favourite company goes away.
Not what it's about for me at all
I'd like Nintendo to go 3rd party because I'm a long time fan and I'm really tired of buying their overpriced hardware

If Switch was at least cheap, I could forgive it for being underpowered but they've gone full Jew this time. As if the $300 wasn't bad enough, the lack of a packin, the accessories pricing, and the paid online all hit me in a succession of 15 minutes. I've never been more disappointed

don't forget Ethernet port sold separately on a console released in TWENTY FUCKING SEVENTEEN

I've been to the event, ARMS is legitimately fun.

But yea fuck 1-2 Switch, i think it's giving the switch a bad reputation with its milking and baby games and i'm not liking it

>The problem with this logic is that Nintendo doesn't think of Sony and MS as competitors, and Sony and MS likely feel the same way
personally I can totally relate to that, because I don't care about either Xbox or Playstation because I have a very powerful gaming computer and those two consoles are basically just gimped PCs. They have literally nothing special going for them aside from few exclusives but I don't care about not being able to play Sony Interactive movies or Gears of War.

I used my 3DS and even the Wii U a LOT next to my PC, and I'm looking forward to the Switch

>but multiplats don't count
Might as well remove ALL third party support then

Will this be Nintendo's last chance?
What will even happen if this console doesn't succeed?

They are about the size of a PSP case.

That's weird, Sony always counts games that are on PS4 and vita. I wonder why Nintendo can't do the same.

>Might as well remove ALL third party support then
6 months of nothing selling but BotW will do that for me

What's the game below Rayman Legends?

You can't emulate those

They switch to smartphones. They are already f dipping their toes into the market. Pokemon Go was a huge success, they turned Fire Emblem into a microtransaction MOBAGE game which is a huge deal in Japan, and it won't be long before we see Animal Crossing being a microtransaction simulator for iphone/android where you buy coins to make your animal friends happy.

they'll make another one after 4 years

Yes, you think the normies are poorfags?

PSP games are justified because they came on UMDs and in Japan it was common to find games and videos being stored on 2 UMDs in one case.

Switch games are SD card sized, they probably come with a paper thin manual or no manual too. They should have reused 3DS game cases.

I wanted to get a switch for disgaea 5 so bad, but i've decided thats fucking retarded.

The Wii U kiosk at my local Target was replaced with a Switch advertisement.

Considering they always sell their consoles at a profit, they'll just make a new one a few years later

Wii U was sold at a loss thanks to the gamepad

There's a huge Switch banner over the Wii U game case at one Walmart, but my local one has absolutely nothing. Haven't been to any other stores lately.

Why would they launch a console with one game? They made the same mistake with the Wii U. They should have waited.

Wii U had more games actually

Switch is the worst launch since the N64

Is this really what Nintendo is banking on for Switch for the entire 2017 year?

A Wii U port
A tech demo
A online shooter locked behind paid online
Another 3D Mario game

jesus christ

>Wii U was sold at a loss
>Still has launch price

???

They'll release more games on mobile, but there could be a possibility they could dip their feet in unknown territory. (Steam)

Who knows? They may put the Pikmin games on PC to test the waters.

you already have the answer.

console sold at a loss, so they don't drop the price otherwise they lose more profit. they make up for it by pumping out tons of first party games that almost never drop in retail price either.

Surely no other games will be brought out between now and next year.

>but there could be a possibility they could dip their feet in unknown territory. (Steam)

I sure hope so. Reggie at least knows there are people who'd be down with that.

If anyone was going to bring out games for the Switch, they would have at least announced it by now.

But so far all Switch has lined up are old ports and what said

Surely the manufacturing cost has dropped since the Wii U launched to the point where they're not selling it at a loss anymore?

They'll make a new one.
You're seriously underestimating how competent Nintendo is when it comes to finances, even when entire systems tank.

I have no citation for manufacturing costs, but I am pretty sure the costs are still pretty high since Nintendo has to get a fab to make custom Wii U pads and console hardware. Wii U never got a slim model or different cheaper revision when it was failing like Vita or Xbone Slim, so I assume the costs are still high.

How much can they keep up though? Especially when everyone these days is pirating their first party games directly from their Eshop servers. Every 3DS and Wii U available right now is 100% hackable

It's rumored they produced around 10 million Wii Us at launch because that's how many they thought they'd sell in the first few months. It's also why they were never able to drop the price, and why the Wii U only ever came in black (after the basic sold out anyway). Even the Zelda bundle was just a gold decal on the black deluxe one

>Especially when everyone these days is pirating their first party games directly from their Eshop servers. Every 3DS and Wii U available right now is 100% hackable

Shit, is that why they didn't include a net browser on the Switch?

Just because they can manage a flop into a commercial success by making a small profit on it doesn't mean that they aren't squandering the opportunity to make billions by going 3rd party

They could probably make money off of something like the VB even. But if their loyalist demo drops down to just a couple million diehards, they will be losing billions by not selling to a much broader market of PS4, Xbone and PC owners

It's basically the same reason they've already gone mobile. That same logic will hit them again eventually

It's what I would do. Who uses a browser on consoles anyway?

As a tablet it's kind of sad though, I might have used it

I think the WiiU SoC was expensive too.
Heavily customizing and recycling an old PowerPC part, adding an old, not being worked on anymore AMD part and a fancy custom EDRAM thing?
The R&D of this thing was probably quite expensive as hell.
Not on the context of a machine that sells 100 million, as the cheaper manufacturing cost would pay for the R&D on the long run.

>But Sony

Correct. No web browser makes it harder to find a system exploit.

But I honestly wouldn't be surprised if someone made a flash cart for Switch like DS/3DS or some hacker figures out that a launch game like 1 2 Switch has a exploit to run homebrew.

Yeah, I'm going to compaire two similar companies in the same market.

Fuck off.

I have a Walmart by my house, it's radio silence for anything that isn't on PS4, and even then, good fucking luck finding any game that isn't CoD, Battlefield, Star Wars, or the local FOTM game; this month it's RE7.
Gamestop has the same crap for downtown - trade in your old console and get $50 credit towards a Switch that won't play any of your old games. Dumb as hell.

3DS took basically 4 years before its first real flashcart came out. GW was NOT a flashcart, it was a DRM dongle that doubled as a SD card reader. It relied 100% on a system exploit to use. Sky3DS was the real 3DS flashcart that worked without any exploit, and even that was probably developed as a result of 3DS system exploits

I mean, not saying a flashcart won't happen, in fact I think it's the most likely piracy option for Switch at this point, but it might be tricky. Especially if the Switch flops there will be zero financial interest in making one just like there wasn't for the Vita

As far as game exploits, if you look at Wii games that were exploited, all of them had SD card access. They'll probably take that out of games. And for 3DS games, it really only happened because the system was already hacked so early through the games and how to hack them were thus well understood. It also helped that their save data was modifiable because it was on the cart. From what I understand, Switch save data will be on the system so that won't be possible anymore to plaintext edit your save data

So yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if Switch is never hacked

I can only say that it seems most people I know are aware that Switch exists, which wasn't the case with Wii U

I think switch will fall by the means of a fake nintendo server.
Like, instead of you connecting the switch to the real internet, you connect it to a malicious router and it exploits the fuck out of the system.

Even if you could break the encryption and even if you could fake the protocol (probably proprietary), you'd still need to be able to take control of the system or write an update of the system that the system thinks is legitimate

The amount of recursive security they use in these devices is absurd, and that's a very unrealistic entry point because breaking encryption is typically not feasible

The "entry point" for breaking encryption is generally filling the memory with a dumper program and glitching the fuck out of the CPU until it runs the program before it can encrypt.
It's how they broke in all the recent systems.
Then after they got the encryption keys etc via this attack, then they devise something that don't actually require opening your hardware and connecting shit to the CPU pins etc..

Is Nintendo really selling their pre-orders well? I'm just not buying that the Switch's demand is very strong after what happened to the Wii U, so is there any source as to how many people pre-ordered the Switch?.

>so is there any source as to how many people pre-ordered the Switch?
Zilcho
In fact, Walmart and Gamestop did not "sell out" of pre-orders. They had a fixed window during which they were allowed to accept them. After which, they were instructed to say they are "sold out"

>I-IT'S SELLING OUT EVERYWHERE! DONT BELIEVE THE LIES ; ;

Nintendo is finished

At the very least they have some nice minimalistic box art

Nintendo is finished since 1886.
The most likely scenario is the sales being lukewarm, nintendo slashing the price and announcing pokemon to it earlier.

...

Have there been any TV commericals of the Switch in America aside from the Super Bowl commercial?

>Nintendo is finished since 1886.
They've only been making video game hardware for 30 odd years.
This argument is actually proof that their chances of transitioning into another business model (say, a 3rd party developer) is incredibly likely.

I like the European commercial.
youtube.com/watch?v=S1r369yv2Uk

What's the point? Most places don't have pre-orders open anymore and you can't buy one yet.

>say, a 3rd party developer
They'd sooner forgo the foreign markets altogether and focus solely on their native market.

same for the target at the mall where I live.

North America is their biggest market and always has been
They'd sooner forgo Japan entirely than abandon America.

You're a fucking idiot, by the way. Your brand loyalty is exclusive to fanboys like you and does not extent to your host company

>'h-h-h-hey.. look at this..'
>'i-it's called a nintendo s-switch..'
>'w-w-watch me jump on this g-goomba...'
>'w-watch m.. hey, wh-why are you l-leaving'
>'okay, y-you too'

>pokemon
Not announced
>no more heroes
Not in development
>multiplats,ports and 2 year old indie shit

wooooow