Tekken 7 Thread

Is Tekken really complex?Most of the cast looks like they play the same too.
Why did VF die?
I'm not that VFfag

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>Is Tekken really complex?

Does it need to be? People always go on fighting games based on what the absolute top level players say, which is like 5% of us. I am still incredibly average at Tekken and have been messing around with it since 1997 withh tekken 2. I enjoy myself anyway.

It's complex in some ways. For example, getting down proper movement and spacing will take years of playing to master.

I could just never be fucked to learn all the guide input terms. I just wanted to learn to do a proper EGFW and anons just sqwaqed "f,n,f,d+2" at me. I mean, they could have just said "do a normal GWF but press triangle at the same moment you press foward/down.

Tempted to get this on the PC, but I don't know about the cross play thing, did they cancel it?

VF died when arcades died

Tekken is gook pandering trash. While SEGA realized that Korean Backdashes are fucking gay and only for autistic gooks, Harada and his shitty colleagues decided to instead make Tekken all about KBD's.

They should rename it to Gookken instead because that's who Bamco is making the game for.

I´m not the vfag neither but I found VF5: FS way more fun than Tekken.

I liked characters and moveset of Tekken better but with this bound system all the fighters seems the same because they have to use the same strategy over and over:

footsteps footsteps till someone make a launch, then hit buttons. That´s it, I don´t feel like I´m fighting against a fighter, too many moves only to use the launch move and then use the rest.

VF5FS is not even that hard to learn, is easy and atleast you feel like you are fighting against certain style.

At a very basic level everyone in tekken is very much the same, it's when you get into the characters that stuff gets more different

Like every character has somewhat similar normals (some don't) with some better for some characters, they have a hop kick and some combo that goes like 1,2,1. Every character does what to get the juggle, but to do these every character is quite different and has unique quirks to get good damage. But then when you really get into playing you realise that every situation in tekken you have a lot of options, and each character has very unique options in those situations.

This leads to a really high amount of character specific stuff you need to learn

I have no idea. I just saw a robot with chainsaw hands and picked it up. I am absolute shit at it. Thought about maybe getting good, but just dropped all fighting games in general after looking up tips and realizing that there is an entire culture and lingo.

Like, fuck, even beginner guides were using abbreviations and terms i've never heard of and weren't in the manual or even remotely like what it stood for and were blanket ones meant to be used for all fighting games.

It was like picking up a random chinese book and then being handed a japanese to chinese dictionary and being told to write a paper on it in chinese.

I'm the same with Street fighter V. I used to play the shit outta tekken but even then this shit is hard

>Tekken is gook pandering trash

Wot? Most martial art games are made by the japs user, what are you talking about?

This is you:

It's complex in that there is a deep movement system with a high skill-ceiling, and footsies/movement is a huge part of the game, and match ups. In a very small nutshell you use your highs (which can be blocked high or ducked), mids (which can be blocked high but are unblockable while crouching), and lows (which are unblockable while standing and can be blocked while crouching) in conjunction with your movement to put your character in their most advantageous position (which varies on match up) and start a combo. Opponent gets knocked down, begin oki, rinse repeat

Imo the funnest part of tekken is outspacing the other player in neutral and just jabbing them to death with highs and mids

>t. Jack 6

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Do we know where lee,miguel and kuma stand on that yet?

>Is Tekken really complex?
There are basic things you need to know for every character, one example: how to get up quickly from the floor if get knocked down.
And then there are various complexities among the characters. The really complex ones (called "stance dancers", because they have 2+ stances) look like they won't be in the game at launch., or at all.

They aren't out in Arcades, so apart from special events or developer beta streams, nobody has had a chance to play or see them, so no, nobody knows where they stand. Miguel looked pretty fucking strong though.

what happend to hwoarang eye? Is he a pirate now?

>Jackie chan not in
Why are we here?
Just to suffer?

>Leo best character in the game
This is not bad news

Not to play lei cause no one does

Kuma will be probably in Z tier like all the other games

No Capo ? REALLY NAMCO really?

No fucking eddy or clone ?
he is best shit about tekken since forever

Lucky Chloe is your capo ripoff

enjoy

SHE DOESNT EVEN PLAY LIKE HIM

how the fuck retards say this .
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Lei has the best chance of getting in as DLC later.
Also, obligatory where's
Julia?
Anna?
Wang?
Eddy?
Jun?
Kunimitsu?
Zafina?
Christie?
I do mind Julia though. Mained her since T3.

Good fucking riddance, getting rid of capos was the best thing to happen in Tekken 7
You'll have Katarina and LC if you want braindead characters

same fag.

Capos are best thing about tekken along with Howereang and Paul.

Enjoy your shit robot anime cuck weebshit that tekken has became.

>we won't bloat the roster!
>removes several plot relevant characters and adds a bunch of random bitches
H-harada?

>several plot relevant characters
Only Anna comes to mind.

>samefag means people who hold the same opinion
>buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords
I think you need to go back

Just because you felt you were any good button mashing with Eddy it doesn't mean he was any good.
if anything capos are singlehandedly the most hated characters in the whole franchise.

Where the fuck is Akuma?

By who? competitive cucks their opinion doesnt matter?

Casual fans liked them , since forever.

Competitive side of these games like 100k people at best while Tekken 7 will sell 3-4 millions.

way to fuck those 4 million people

>I liked them so everyone else must have too!
Nope.

man shut the fuck up idiot , look popularity contests atleast.

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Michelle (and by proxy, Julia) have a beef with Heihachi
Anna works for Kazuya
Wang has a beef with Heihachi and is helping Lars
Eddy has a beef with Jin
"Jun is missing :^)"
Zafina looked like she has more to do in the T6 scenario campaign

Since the title was Fated RETRIBUTION I thought the basic theme would be characters getting their revenge on their beefs, but looks like bloating the roster with random bitches + two relevant characters (Kazumi and Claudio) was more important. Silly me!

His real Japanese name is Gouki. Only the West calls him Akuma. He's right there.

he's a buttmad weeb who can't accept koreans are better players than japs

don't know why he is named gouki but he is on the A tier

>Can't even write a character's name right
>le cuck weebs xD

VF never was flashy enough to attract the bottom dwelling fighting game casuals like Tekken or DOA did recently.

His name is gouki in japan

Katarina looks like your typical STD carrying huehue favela whore. I need my classy whore back.

Is this japanese tier list? or most used characters?

Japanese tier list based on Arcade version H

NO JUN NO BUY

>yfw you're the only good design out of nine new characters

Casuals fucking hated Eddie Gordo, literally the cheese pick

He was banned at many households

>Bob isn't in or near Top Tier
Bullshit, he still has his stupid stuff from TTT2.

>Julia have a beef with Heihachi
Stopped caring after 3 and went full "muh forest".
>Wang has a beef with Heihachi
Stopped caring after 5.
>Eddy has a beef with Jin
Literally everyone does in Tekken 6.
>"Jun is missing :^)"
>Zafina
She literally existed just to warn about Azazel

I'm not saying the new characters are any relevant (except maybe Claudio), but neither is anyone aside Anna that got left out.

If "I dislike a mishima" counts as relevance despite them achieving their goals like getting a shitty forest back then you'd have to include everyone. That leads to casuals dropping the games as it is too much to learn

Also wang is by no means relevant, especially cause he is dead. Zafina has nothing past 6

>casuals dropping the games as it is too much to learn
Casuals will drop the game anyway when they meet people online they can't cheese

I like Shaheen's and Josie's designs too, though Kazumi's is definitely the best new one.

Chloe almost looked cool in her concept art.

Having a move doesn't equal it being the same, yours and others frame data mixed with general system changes have an effect

I love Josie's design!

I didn't like gigas or chloe at first but they have grown on me

Chloe actually looks like a lot of fun

>Julia have a beef with Heihachi
>Stopped caring after 3 and went full "muh forest".
Which is also solved on 5 because for some reason Ganryu's ending is canon.

I hate junfags like any normal person, but Harada himself said she's not dead. It's really stupid and I wish they'd kill her for good.

She's a Goddess

Does Steve also has the devil gene or not?I didn't really understand much about him.

Demoness actually
In theory, yes. He was an experiment by Heihachi. He had the cryosleeping Nina artificially impregnated with a devil gene kid. but the experiment was deemed a failure, so maybe he didn't get the gene after all (Leo's mom was in charge and probably got necked for failing). It's all very fuzzy.

Tekken is pretty complex but it has a low point of entry because you just need to keep in mind that everyone wants a launcher. You need to launch your opponent.

How you make that happen and the avoidance of exposing yourself to one is where the complexity is born.

I seriously hate how you spend half the game just backdashing autistically.

I'm learning tekken now and I don't understand why people say all characters play the same/similar, is it because everyone uses launchers into combo into bound?

tfw your boy has next to no fan art

Street Fighter V is all about rushdown and in-your-face play. Maybe that's more your speed.

Yeah, I hate that system because all characters have cool moves but only the launcher is important, leaving all those +100 moves wasted.

Yeah,from the cast only a few really feel unqiue,although can't you do proper damage without relying on juggles in 7 now?

>Recommending SFV
At least wait till march where they'll change the netcode and the whole CFN,and hopefully a balance patch.Game isn't as bad as people make it sound but you are still waiting off the march update.

Only people who are bad says that.
Like this guy:

I mean the other option would be having to learn those 100+ moves for each character since they'd be all viable.

Don't get your hopes up its Capcom were talking here

>Lars at B

How the mighty fall

Doubtful. If Capcom is ever going to do something significant it will be around end may/June, to avoid getting completely swooped by Injustice 2 and T7.

why is alisa so lewd?

What did she mean by this?

She wants to take care of your meat and veg obviously

Still better than nothing.Also new character on 28th of this month.I think she looks interesting.

>wait till march where they'll change the netcode and the whole CFN
Did they actually confirm that they're doing that? I don't understand how they managed to take such a huge step back from SF4 when it comes to online features and functionality, SFV is so awful in those regards.

>Why did VF die


Because you didn't play the game duh...

The only difference I see is that top is the slower version of bottom. Maybe that's why it died

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VF is like the earlier DoA. Seems deep at first and then you realise that it's shallow as shit. Everything people say about fighting games being glorified rock-paper-scissors applies to VF tenfold, there's nothing else to it but it's 50/50 mixup game. It's kind of like the SF3S of 3D fighters really.

>Seems deep at first and then you realise that it's shallow as shit.
> there's nothing else to it but it's 50/50 mixup game.
Playing only 2 days doesn't really qualify you to talk that much shit...

Considering you are in the same position against tekken,that doesnt mean much.

No, I'm good with Tekken, all I say about the game is true.

It's not better than VF.

>No I'm correct
Not an argument.
I remember you talking about ''it's all about whiff punishers'' a few days ago.Remember how that argument went?

what I meant is that I did play Tekken more than you probably.

And what I said is also true, the game is not all about whiff punishers, in theory.
But the only viable way to play it, if you pretend to be good, or maybe even good at a competitive level, is to space/whiff punish all day.


As the user above said, there are tons of characters and tons of move to learn, but all this is bullshit since in the end, no matter what you pick, all you do is bait, launch, juggle, you just need to pick whatever top tier there is, learn a launch and a combo and voila.

This is why last tournament was just a Xiaoyu,Claudio and Leo fest.


And also, call me the day VF panders to furfag... I mean Harada will stop at nothing to sell his game now.

So unfamiliar with the lore, why is Raven a woman now?

This looks like a fucking youtube comment

I prefer this design over her final one

Hey man, I like VF but that doesn't mean DOA or Tekken bad

But you don't press forward and down at the same time from what I understood
It goes like this:
>you press down
>you press forward while still holding down
>you release down while still pressing forward
You must press 2 (or triangle) from the first step to the third

could be wrong tho

It is f,N,d,df2 for EWGF and f,N,df:2 for PEWGF. For EWGF its more about speed than just frame 2 press. For PEWGF it is a just frame 2 press. Learning notations taks like 10 minutes. Step it up.

>Kazuya not SS
did they finally nerf him ?

Her name is Master Raven. And she is Raven's master. Same organization, just a higher ranking ninja, basically. My theory is that they wanted to make a character for both Raven and Kunimitsu fags

>Jun
she ded brah
>Kunimitsu
I though she was dead too ?
>Zafina
;_;
they should have killed him in some tragic plot where he sacrifies himself because of some mistake Jinpachi did or something. This should somehow involve Feng, Lars and Xiaou

VF5 Final Showdown is faster, I guess pros dislike VF because your opponent have enough tools to defend themselves so they rather have launch and hit till your opponent bar is zero, you can´t spam in VF.

his ultra broken low - db3+4 i think - has full blockstun on block of the first part now.