Why did Diablo 3 fail so much compared to 2?

Why did Diablo 3 fail so much compared to 2?

What went wrong?

Thats just your rose tinted glasses talking, diablo 2 was utter shit

Diablo 3 failed ? I thought it printed money.

Same thing that happened to Bioware when they were bought by EA. Blizzard was bought by Activision, all the talent either left or were fired and got replaced by community college "game designers".

This. Sort of.
LoD was it least fast as fuck. Most iso-loot games are skow, plodding bullshit.
But the genre was never that good, D2X was lightning in a bottle because it was reasonably fun with friends, reasonably fun PvP, and the first normie lootsink.

You were a kid back when D2 came out, so killing monsters and picking up loot was all you demanded from the game to be fun.
Now you grew up, and you demand more sophisticated entertainment, which a game of the same genre can't provide to you anymore.

>What went wrong?
Everything
Fuck off shills

Because Blizzard did not make Diablo 1 and 2, Condor aka Blizzard North after acquisition, did. Pic related had nothing to do with Diablo up to that point and was put in charge of the third game.

Else suffer what consequence?

Diablo 2 had no competition.

The whole GENRE is garbage user. It's fucking shit. No depth. Get gear and run non-stop offense and blow everything up in a spamfest.

>terrible server issues at launch
>99.99% of rares were junk
>instead of making advancements on gems we got a sidegrade with a shitty money-sink upgrade system
>couldn't even walk with area map (tab) up
>couldn't even show hp/resource numbers above respective globes
>showed off charm bag but then completely scrapped it
>DESTRUCTION! KILL STREAK! annoying messages

and then instead of just killing the rmah they killed the entire auction house and made it so you pretty much can't trade anything.

I know it, user. But the first two Diablo games were great, at least back when they came out.

D2 had really interesting gear with spell procs and runewords that would give you abilities your character would not have otherwise (auras, etc.) and D3 had wow itemisation that just gave bonuses to strength and shit
Makes it much easier for them to balance, but sucks a LOT of fun out of the game

>people want Necromancer in Diablo 3
>Blizzard: "You want Negromancer? Got it senpai"

Why is this allowed?

Throne of Darkness was completely overshadowed by LoD. I still enjoyed both though

Even so, how does that relate to and discprove the very obvious fact that D3's soundtrack, story, atmosphere and all over design are vastly inferior to those of D2?

The only improvement D3 made to the franchise is the gameplay, and even that one is quite arguable.

Anyway, Sup Forums is full of total idiots who are completely blind and deaf to any other artistic merits a game might have besides gameplay. And you morons seem to enjoy games that feel like growing up in an torture-heavy orphanage, i.e. crap souls.

Else I shall wash my honor clean in your blood!

IIRC Diablo 3 was one of the best selling PC games of all time, up to that point.

>Couldnt play for the entire first week because always online
>The classes were totally unbalanced to the point where Barb and monk were literally worthless
>A real fucking money fucking auction house
>not a single legendary item did fucking anything
>zero builds
>zero tactics
>zero thought required for anything

>One of the top selling games of all time
>Failed

Yeah because of it's name not because of it's content

Two words.

>Auction
>House

it seems to me you are comparing a 10/10 against a 8/10, but also you can't start threads without hyperboles if you want replies

Nox was way better than diablo 2, it's a shame it barely had any marketing. I didn't even know the game existed until 10 years after release.

This sums it up pretty good. By the time they fixed some of the issues in the xpac, no one cared anymore.

Blizz really fucked up on Diablo. But then again, as
pointed out, it was never really theirs, so they could give a shit less. Which is why its basically abandonware now.

>no sequel, no further content being developed

It sold on hype created by its predecessors. It's a failure because it killed the series.

Adding to this
>always online
Combined with the launch issues.

Fucking shills.

Diablo 1/2 have perfect atmosphere.

Literally go fuck yourself, there's more to the game than t3h grind! xD

It's lore is top tier and the story was told through the game, especially in 1

Literally this

This.

Also Rumours say that Blizzard is going to make a Diablo spin-off with the Overwatch engine.

So, enjoy your Left 4 Dead clone.

There is nothing remotely appealing about Diablo 3 except the loot treadmill

D2 had a worse launch than D3

Online was broken for a good month
Classes weren't balanced
Character killing bugs
Yellows were the only good things to equip

It took years of patching and an overpriced expansion to get the game to a decent state. Even now there are useless skills, broken systems, and remnants of bad game design.

I see your post faget

>D3 could have been a true successor to D2
>it could have been game of the decade
>instead we got a soulless D2 knockoff with somehow less features than a game over a decade old, even after an expansion
>an indie game made by a couple sheep fuckers in a basement is a better Diablo game than D3

Just how did Blizzard fuck it up this bad?

That's moneygrabbing jews for ya - they rid the product in question of any actual quality, heart, inspiration and originality, make it normie-friendly, give it a thousand colors of style-over-substance wrapping and ultimately rob you of your money.

>complaining about rares

rares should have the potential to be godly amazing.

pls no bully the witch doctor

Besides he was never supposed to replace Necromancer, why do people even care so much about one single class? Why is nobody crying for the druid or paladin to come back?

>no sequel
Because Blizzard are known to pump out sequels at a face place right?

They should... but they shouldn't be the only option. This was only half fixed before the expansion added runewords.

removing attribute sand skill points basically made the game all about gear that never dropped

at least in d2 you could build your character to not rely 100% on loot

Release D3
>rmauction house
fucking stupid like anyone with a brain could have guessed
>COULD NOT TRADE ITEMS WITH OTHER PLAYERS THAT WEREN'T IN YOUR GAME
Seriously why the FUCK was this allowed? That was like part of the fun of D2. Trade lobbies were FUN. Its FUN to see what other items people had. This was the most fucking retarded decision to ever happen
>killed off deckard
If he had to die at least make him get killed by a character that wasn't a retarded butterfly
>avatar voices
no
>Act 4
Terrible, felt totally rushed and unfinished
>Legendary system
Beyond fucked, the droprate was abysmal and they were almost all horrible, rare items were always going to be better.
>Skill tree
There was none, made it really fucking boring since your character was just like everyone elses, runes tried to fight the problem but most runes were trash and after a short time you could easily tell which runes were clearly the best.

LoD nearly killed rares

>he was never supposed to replace Necromancer

But he's what we got instead of a god tier summoner with an army of skeletons. Hopefully the D3 Necromancer will live up to expectations, but I'm not super optimistic.

>Why is nobody crying for the druid or paladin to come back?

Necromancer was a fan favorite.

Paladin was replaced with Crusader

It does suck there is no Druid or proper Amazon. I know DH is half zon but they could at least make a spearzon/javzon option

>Paladin
Well there's the crusader, but he's more of a WoW paladin (just like the entire rest of the game is a WoW expy really)

Sucks looking at alpha sceenshots and seeing the final result that we got. It looked unique before, now it looks like literally every other game, also femdiablo looks shit

who /grimdawn/ here

Blizzard didn't understand the atmosphere and aesthetic of diablo 1 and 2, and what more, even completely disregarded it.

>play game a year ago
>it's fun as shit and really good
>go to talk about it on Sup Forums
>HURR FUCKING DURR YOU PLAYED IT 15 YEARS AGO GRAMPS IT'S NOT THAT GOOD

it has better gameplay, better artstyle and is easier to navigate/control.
You are blinded

>better artstyle
lol

>muddy wow graphics are better than crisp, clear sprites

>better artstyle

>not enjoying cell shaded, timeless graphics.

go play your retro shit gramps

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They are gonna add the necromancer soon.
Not for free tho. Because of course not.

>mfw played Diablo 2 -> 3 -> 1 and think D1 had the most enjoyable experience
Diablo 2 only even compares because I had fun playing it with friends, Diablo 1 really sucked me in and had me playing start to finish in one very enjoyable session. It might not be my first choice for a replay though.

>physical age equals psychological age

you can stuck in the 80's at the age of 10 as you can at the age of 50. Personal preference, still huge faggotry to protect muuuh pixel dicc

in the top bracket of most retarded shit I've ever read

Yes I know, because people keep crying about having him on.

grow up

wow that proves diablo 2 is shit I can't recover

But it didn't, user

get well

made by nu-Blizzard but as it stand now

Nioh > Diablo series.

>already gave up
why are blizzshills so pathetic?

WoW tier graphics
story was ass
the dungeons and levels in general sucked

The zones had no charm to them, at least to me it felt like going through generic crypt #23042 demolishing everything in my path only to repeat the same thing over and over in hopes of getting better loot, there was no sense of exploration.

The real-money auction house was also a shitty move and initially put me off from even buying the game.

nice insecurities m9 but you know shit and it shows, now tell me, how is resident evil 7?

>Nioh > Diablo series.
At least use shit in the same genre.

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who are you quoting?

Everyone lost interest after they took down item market. Literally the only thing going for D3 was to loot amazing items and hope to earn some money. Game died the moment they closed the market.

yes

uninspired shit starting classes.
no possibility to make your own crazy builds.
itemization sucks ass and doesnt support trading and twinking.
artstyle looks like it was outsourced to some korean f2p mmorpg designers with edges all over the place and random beltstraps and thorns.
shitty dialogue, shit plot with shit twists you smelled years before it actually happened.
game is too easy, no shock moments like rakanishu lighting your ass to oblivion. finished the game on 3 difficulties without dying once.

these were my mainreasons i stopped playing. thank god i played with a friends account and didnt waste money on this shit. when D3 was announced i was hyped as fuck but blizzard just proved once more that they have mastered the art of printing money by catering to casuals, but they cant make a good game.
this game might be a good time waster in the lines of all thos f2p phone games, but if you want something that involves skill, this is not for you.

>I like my taste and personality Sup Forums'd
good goym

because druid and paladin are redundant classes. they took the whole necromancer style of summoning entire undead army and replaced it with nigger magic

On the lowest difficulties, yeah. Ideally, an ARPG requires you to put thought into planning your character build and keen awareness/timing during the harder fights. It's one of my favorite genres.

>druid
>redundant

shapeshifting isn't redundant nigger

You're delusional
The game is still active with seasons, and now they're going to release necromancer.
There WILL be a Diablo 4, no doubt.

this

oh wow so unique

Summoning skeleton

oh so wow indeed much better then turning into a bear

>good goyim not being the person buying WoW: The ARPG
lmao 2bh

too bad for them it won't cash in on the name like D3 did

It's a good game, even more so with friends.
>adventure mode
>rifts, and greater rifts
>events that only happen once a year
>secret stuff like the goblin realm
Didn't have much with a game in a while

fuckin pretty much linear class progression. The runes really fucked up build options, theres not enough and they are mostly all shit

But it's so fucking boring.

I want to make meme builds.
I want a talent tree.
I want to play as a Monk using a Bow/Crossbow and make it fucking work with my build.

>blizzard north made diablo and diablo 2
>everyone loved them
>blizzard shut them down and cancelled diablo 3 because it supposedly didn't meet their standards
>blizzard releases the massive pile shit that is now diablo 3

Were they just mad a subsidiary made better games than them?

>have game that is essentially about finding loot
>give every player a certain guaranteed full set when reaching max level and completing a couple of tasks
What the fuck were they thinking

but now there'll be ancient ancients to grind for!

ok so you turn into a bear nice

it's just a different flavour of "punch shit"

do they still have the real money AH?

No, you can't even trade items with other players now.

So what, you'd rather have it back to D1's Melee/Ranged/Magic?

>not a single "fuck that loser"

>You're delusional
>There WILL be a Diablo 4, no doubt.

You think im delusional? For the big diablo anniversary at blizzcon, the perfect time to announce the next game or another xpac, they devoted a few hours to a month long event that was a shitty retro homage, and they announced the necromancer. Nothing else.

Anyway, yeah, they might make another one. Maybe in a decade, if they stop printing money on wow, hearthstone, and overwatch.

Are you ready for the Necromancers and Necrosluts, Sup Forums?

whats the point of having str/agi/int when each class can only benefit from one of these and the others are useless? same thing in wow. why not just introduce some generic "power" stat instead that will work for every class

Again, you're delusional.
Diablo 3 is one of the top selling games of history

>STR influenced armor
>INT influenced resists
>DEX influenced dodge

>shitters complain
>DEX now influences armor just like STR

retarded as shit. Also why did they not make any hybrid classes? STR/INT polearm horadrim for the xpac would've been neat