GPD Win thread!

...

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=cYPhXKgg9SM
gpd.hk/buy.asp
youtube.com/watch?v=cEbu-0kAtjU
developers.google.com/android/images
isboxer.com/wiki/HOWTO:Disable_CPU_Throttling_in_Windows
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

Any tips for a new user?

...

its basically a mini-laptop with a controller built in

oooooh it's an tablet

Thanks, I could not tell.

can you play csgo on it?

why not?

>$499

No thanks, shill

youtube.com/watch?v=cYPhXKgg9SM

What desktop GPU is this thing best compared to?
Does it have a hope in hell in running EDF 4.1
What's the point?

>poor

Right, go buy a Switch and pay out of your ass to Nintendo.

Hard to tell, it has newer technologies than many of the older GPUs it compares to, so some titles might run much better than just some single older desktop GPU would.
But generally something like a GT 710 I'd guess.

thanks captain obvious

>Does it have a hope in hell in running EDF 4.1
Maybe, I'm going to try for sure.

it's actually 330 if you buy it straight from china

Are you blind? It says 22 805 401 USD on

wtf I want a gpd win now

More ideas of games like EDF? Older ones specially, the "weird japanese games for PS2" kind of genre.

Whats the battery life like?

Shit

5 hours average

Real life battery life
Gayming heavy titles? Around 3 hours.
Older titles and older emulation, around 5.
General laptop usage? Up to 6-8

no, seriously. DOES IT FUCKING RUN EDF OR NOT I NEED TO KNOW

Insect Armageddon? For sure.
4.1? It will run it for sure, but at what frame rate? No clue.

I will make a thread about games that work when I get mine. EDF 4.1 will be something I will test.

thanks. i came into the thread somewhat interested, but EDF on this thing might have sold me

Better than the bitch thats for sure.

The only thing that the bitch will run is neo nintendo games

I like the gpdwin because i can emulate up to a wii u on the device and stream xbox and ps4

This, the huge library of emulatable games, way more than any ARM device can.

Not to forget Steam in-home streaming

it does actually way better than one would imagine for the specs it has

How hot does it get?

gpd.hk/buy.asp

If you are in EU use DragonBox, if in US, use Amazon.
It costs more, but at least it's safer, you can return the item and have actual support, instead waiting two months for it to ship from China and get a DOA unit.

about tree fiddy

actually as hot as you let it, messing with the BIOS, but don't let it go over 85C

how's the dpad? looks like the 3DS one which I'm OK with but worried if its one of those cheapo ones.

rev2 dpad is great, dunno about the rev1 one
seriously can't find something to bitch about the controls, the shoulder buttons people say are too loose, but I like that they tilt a little to stay flush with your finger

Been playing Darkest Dungeon at work on mine. Love it. Just wish I could find a decent configuration for ps2 emulation. It runs, but not always well.

>Playing Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy continuously for 5 hours
>battery still at 80%
ARM WINS AGAIN
can't wait to see how the Pyra blows the competition out of the water in terms of performance/watt

>Ask about temperature.
>Two replies that tell me to buy it.

Shill much?

No reading comprehension

This. Kekd hard.

No thanks. I'm really glad I didn't waste money on the Pandora.

If you are so worried about battery life, get a battery bank.

>he can't even play Wii or PS2 gaymes
>he has cheap controls and shitty screen
Kek

What?

First post is a link to shops, second talks about which store to use. How does that answer my question?

This is the kind of answer I was looking for.

sadly the pyra is still lacking so much in quality, if you want ARM and battery life get the GPD XD, it's cheaper, more powerful and better quality than the Pyra

>he can't even play Wii or PS2 gaymes
Well, not too many Wii/PS2 games run playable on the GPD Win either. But the insanely good performance is undeniable. Then again the OpenPandora is currently about 4-5 times cheaper and 9 years older.

>he has cheap controls and shitty screen
As someone who owns both devices I'm not fooled by that. The build quality of the Pandora is a million times better and other than the faulty LCD cable in the CC unit, there haven't been any recurring problems (like with the GPD Win). The display is shit though, I'll give you that.

Early adopter here, it's usable.
It gives little feedback and sometimes inputs diagonals, but hopefully it's fixed in the newer versions.

Without altering any settings, hot enough to distract from the gameplay in demanding games.
It's a good idea to set the fan to the max before launching those.

No, the person posting the link has reading comprehension, not you.

Let's see
>GPD XD
>8 hours with display on lowest brightness, wifi off and non-cpu-intensive games only
>OpenPandora
>14 hours easily on default settings, playing actual games

Yeah no thanks. Also I can't imagine the build quality of the XD being better than the Pyra when it's already worse than the Pandora.

t. someone who owns a 9 year old Pandora but threw away his broken XD after 2 months

>Well, not too many Wii/PS2 games run playable on the GPD Win either.
ishiiruka dolphin with the new vulkan drivers is pretty much perfect now

>Then again the OpenPandora is currently about 4-5 times cheaper and 9 years older.
used Pandora units still go for shitloads and Pyra is way more then any GPD XD, 500 eur VS 200 eur and the GPD XD is still more powerful and with the same battery life

>As someone who owns both devices I'm not fooled by that. The build quality of the Pandora is a million times better
are you kidding? topkek, shitty TFT and literary 3D printed controls, the plastic feels flimsy and shit as fuck

>like with the GPD Win
your own damn fault for getting a early adopter unit and not a revised revision

>GPD XD
>8 hours with display on lowest brightness, wifi off and non-cpu-intensive games only
>threw away his broken XD after 2 months
obviously you have no idea what you are talking about then, used mine for days before even charging the first time, way more then 8 hours

I'll take better screen, performance and controls any day. We have something called battery banks nowadays.

>is pretty much perfect now
Why are you lying on the internet? I have a GPD Win too and I know that only easy games like Mario Kart run on a constant 60fps. Vulkan hardly makes a difference.

>Pandora units still go for shitloads
I don't know about that. When I looked on German ebay about a year ago, there were two offers for 110€ and one acution that ended at 100. Dragonbox sold the final batch (refurbished) for 140€ so I don't think that constitutes "shitload".

>GPD XD is still more powerful
THAN THE PYRA? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
youtube.com/watch?v=cEbu-0kAtjU

>topkek
2014 called

>your own damn fault for getting a early adopter unit and not a revised revision
Fair enough. Though to my knowledge, the R3/L3 quality and the disconnecting keyboard problem are still apparent in the revised unit.

>It's a good idea to set the fan to the max before launching those.
This, after all it's not actually meant for playing high end titles, it's a device for emulation, but they have you an option to force the fan on for more demanding stuff.

Me too, I was just refuting his claim that the XD had better batterylife. But hey, there are countless benchmarks on the internet, just go and look.

>Though to my knowledge, the R3/L3 quality and the disconnecting keyboard problem are still apparent in the revised unit.
no problems for me

how much does it cost?

And neither did my OpenPandora had a faulty LCD cable. But anecdotal evidence isn't really the point, is it?

You really can't compare the Pyra and the GPD Win.
Obviously you will give away battery life for raw performance, I'm still happy to be able to play Arkham City smoothly on the go.

>THAN THE PYRA? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
>ARM Cortex-A15 VS ARM Cortex A17
Yeah, the Pyra uses a slower and less efficient CPU/SoC, so no, I'm not kidding you.

>Why are you lying on the internet?
pretty much perfect as in as good you can get even on a high end desktop, the limiting factor being the emulation
duh

I was mainly talking about efficiency. The OpenPandora was able to play x86 (Windows) games at a higher efficiency than comparable Intel Atom devices at that time. The Pyra is doing the same thing.

One uses a highly inefficient Angry Birds OS (Android), one uses regular an optimized autism OS (Debian Ganoo+Linux). So yeah, you probably are kidding me.

>the limiting factor being the emulation
>duh
No, the limiting factor is a 5w TPD GPU+CPU combo that is bad at heat dispersion and has about 1/8th the raw performance of the cheapest i3.

>The OpenPandora was able to play x86 (Windows) games at a higher efficiency than comparable Intel Atom devices at that time. The Pyra is doing the same thing.
Atom devices at the time, yeah, being able to play Diablo 2 more efficiently isn't really a selling point if it's all it can do. You can't compare it to a unit being able to play DX10 games from 2010 nicely.

not really, the games that run, run fine and those who don't, don't do any better on my rig with a RX 480

>One uses a highly inefficient Angry Birds OS (Android), one uses regular an optimized autism OS (Debian Ganoo+Linux). So yeah, you probably are kidding me.
what has this to do with anything? you said the Pyra is more powerful, which it's not, software side can always be modified

Hibernate, don't sleep. You'll get a lot of rude restarts if you don't.

>muh nominal performance vs raw performance
fucking kill yourself, this is not Sup Forums
It's not possible to install regular GNU/Linux on the XD because GPD did not release the necessary drivers for Linux. In fact they did not even release them for Android so you can't properly compile your own Android, just hack/extract the drivers from their published ROM. The fact of the matter is that the XD is a lot slower and can't do emulation (let alone general computing) half as well as the Pyra (which has a much weaker board).

>Can't play in long intervals or you will literally destroy it
>Can't max or you will literally destroy it
Why even buy this crap if all your doing is streaming games which other cheaper tablets can do too and play indie games that can run in $50 win tablets.

why so buttblasted?

>just hack/extract the drivers from their published ROM
that's pretty much what people do for most smartphone ROMs too and it works fine, doing a lightweight Android built on the XD has been done and is no problem

fact is, the XD is more powerful, like it or not, bitching about "muh normal performance" isn't going to change that

>muh normal performance
I think he's talking about the performance you can actually get out of the device. As in, what do benchmarks say? What good is performance if you can't use it?

>Can't play in long intervals or you will literally destroy it
Who said that? I played Skyrim the other night for 11 hours straight, no problems.
You know it has a switch to set the fan "always on".

>The hardware is more powerful
>Ergo the performance the user gets is higher
Love your simple world view, familia

>What good is performance if you can't use it?
the limiting factor being your own knowledge how to take the most of the device you own
wasn't the whole point of the Pandora to be appealing to the modders and out-of-the-box thinkers? why are tech illiterate people even talking about it now

the hardware is faster, that's a fact

You're one of the lucky ones but let's see how long it will last.

Lol, ARM fags fighting, the GPD Win is still the best gamying oriented handheld out there.

>the limiting factor being your own knowledge how to take the most of the device you own
>every device is equally open and there's nothing stopping your from writing your own high-performance drivers for any given OS

Stay deluded, kid.

>the hardware is faster, that's a fact
the hardware is faster, that's irrelevant

Almost 4 months now without problems.

>the limiting factor being your own knowledge how to take the most of the device you own
How do I make my Nexus 5 run as fast as the Pyra? It has the same SoC, so it's only my lack of knowledge that's stopping me, right?

You can't write the drivers yourself, the SoC manufacturer or the OEM of the device has to provide them. Otherwise you might as well try and make a stone brick run faster.

Not him, but dosen't the Nexus 5 have a fully working Debian port?

Only chroot, meaning it runs inside Android (faster than a virtual machine but no 3D acceleration among other things)

No, the Nexus 5 has a unlocked bootloader and actual driver sources from Google, it runs on bare metal.

Those drivers are for Android, not for Debian. Please provide me with a link to a Debian/any Linux other than Android that runs on the Nexus 5 without Chroot/Android as a base.

>literary cheapo plastic and parts ARM handheld
or
>good quality and parts x86 handheld

I'll take the second one with a battery bank desu

About time we got one.
To the guy from the other thread about the dpad issues. Its another known QC issue. You might have a misaligned membrane. GPD are selling the revised membrane too for older units. (Though they should have got retailers to send them out to owners for free imo)
Supposed to be better.

Mine fortunately doesnt have that issue.
Infact I'm as lucky as they come. No major issues and ordered airmail via geekbuying in the second batch.

I basically invite problems. Got away with it with the XD too which had teething issues on launch but my unit still works great. Barring some paint chipping off the top.

Also best game to play on the Win?
FTL by far.

>unlocked bootloader and actual driver sources from Google
And so has any other nexus device.
developers.google.com/android/images
They're for Android.

You are right, I looked it up, it's just some shitty Android build.
I thought it was actual Linux.

Bummer.

Thanks, I'll note that, mine will be a Rev2 unit so it should have the good Dpad?
How's the cooling? Do you recommend any cooling mods? Cutting away the layer from the copper heatsink and using paste instead of a pad? Drilling a few more vent holes for the fan?

Will it charge with a 2A battery bank when under light usage?

You're basically stuck with old PC games which lack controller support causing serious headaches setting up a controller scheme which will definitely not work with a lot of PC games

Don't really see a problem, mostly going to use it for emulation or in-home streaming, the PC games I will be playing on it seem to be working fine and have xinput support.

It will charge on an external pack when its on. But very slowly.
I use a Qualcomm 3.0 battery pack. (2100mah Revpower one thats like £35)

Played The Witness on it yesterday with no issues.

As for mods. Not modded mine yet. Best thing to do is to unlock the power profiles in the registry and set the cpu to 99%.
Turbo doesnt help the device all too much.

And dont set the DRAM to fast in the bios. Causes instability. Infact I downclocked my ram to cut down the memory management issues I get.

If i get a bluescreen its like once a week now and not once a day.

It has a switch between Dinput, Mouse and Xinput. You got shit like joy2key and Xpadder too if something doesnt work out of the box.

I was playing Diablo II on it last night just fine.
I forgot the key that lets you cycle on a stack of things on a map though so I had to frantically click around everything, but its more than playable enough.

>Best thing to do is to unlock the power profiles in the registry and set the cpu to 99%.
Can you link a guide for that?

The mouse mode turns the dpad into WASD and the other buttons (I know that two of the shoulder buttons will be mouse L/R) into keyboard buttons as well?

Like, playing something like Battlefield 2 would be possible with mouse mode without any extra software?

Also, are there different profiles for mouse mode? I think I heard something about that from a video.

Yeah but the default setup is designed for web browsing and stuff

You could use Xpadder though. Game might even support Dinput you could manually configure too since its quite old.

You have to mess with analogue sensitivity though to get it comfy.

Thanks, I don't mind messing around.

>Best thing to do is to unlock the power profiles in the registry and set the cpu to 99%.
Do you mean this isboxer.com/wiki/HOWTO:Disable_CPU_Throttling_in_Windows

If I would want a shitty ARM emulation device, sure I'd get a Pyra when it comes out, but I don't.