So did the veracity of this get confirmed or still

So did the veracity of this get confirmed or still
>My leak specs are truer than your leak specs.
>REEEEEE!
computerbild.de/artikel/cbs-News-Nintendo-NX-Switch-9208832.html

"Interesting: The graphics chip, obviously a Tegra X2, uses the Pascal architecture of current graphics card models."

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no they said this based on a neogaf leak they also linked to a paragraph above what you cited

the picture and the paragraph been removed, seems like they got caught braking NDC

they posted the spec sheet and said "if we believe what they posted on neogaf this is its spec sheet"
and then:
"Interesting: The graphics chip, obviously a Tegra X2, uses the Pascal architecture of current graphics card models."

>26 gigs of internal storage

PASCAL C O N F I R M E D
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because of that its hard to tell if they said this based on the neogaf leak or they found out by taking it apart.

besides that it is a customized chip. i dont know the extent of how much such a chip can be customized, but what if nintendo could cherry pick features from maxwell as well as pascal? maybe even from xavier?
the result could be something in between of these.

Do you need more than that for the one game it's launching with?

Based on Pascal literally just means using the same technology to shrink the die down

No, but developers and AAA do.
You literally wouldn't be able to fit most AAA games that come out nowadays on the Switch because devs would have to make it with a hard 32 gig limit.

Obviously I can't read this but it literally says Maxwell in the article

xenoblade x needed like 7 gigs of storage for the faster load thing

There is no installing if you use physical carts for the Switch. Switch carts hold around 32 gigs of storage, possibly more.

32 gig doesent seem very limiting for 1080p games.
besides that, since it will be compatible to 2tb microsd it would be very strange if nintendo cant offer 64gb game cards as well if developers demand it.

Please tell me no one can truly be this delusional.
External =/= Internal

I'm personally OK with 32gb of storage, as I will mostly buy and use physical copies of games once I get my hands on a switch (which might not happen until christmas). I'm sure the internal storage will be enough for a few smaller download-only indie titles and my savestates.

It's still unfortunate that the Switch neither includes a game nor an SD card in its package.

Switch carts are 32GB and should be just as fast as internal storage.

>32GB

A lot of games today are reaching 50+ GB

>implying nintendo games will be more than 32GB

indeed it will depend a lot on how fast it can read from microsd...
as for the 64gb part i was talking about retail game cards could be bigger in the future than the 32gb that are believed to be the biggest for now.

>article has been edited to remove the OP pic
>article doesn't contain OP quote any more
>article even says it's unlikely to be an X2

why would you post this?

Worst case you can heavily compress everything.
Can't be worse than normal loading times.

Yeah and the quality of the cards you buy makes a massive difference too

i doubt theres a technical limitation in offering bigger carts. 32gb is just the initial offering.
we saw this with many nintendo consoles

Switch doesn't get "today's games". In fact, 32 gig is overkill and the publishers are paying for a lot of wasted space they're not using when 3DS games were only 1-2 gigs

Switch carts go down to 1GB.

fortunately it writes save data to the internal memory and microsd with read speed similar to hdd are available and will likely keep improving in the future

>article saying it´s unlikely to be an x2
learn reading faggot and don´t shit post. The fags at Computerbild are fucking saying the best candidate is xavier, when they found a good solution for cooling, and fucking xavier isn´t even on the market.

with xavier this fucking console would nearly on par with ps4pro and scorpio ffs.

no it wouldnt with this form factor they cant reach the performance of ps4 even if its xavier.
ps4 slim uses about 80 watts while a docked switch will likely only use about 20 watts.
the efficiency of new tech gets better but not this fast.

There is no such thing as the Tegra X2. Tegra Parker is not called "X2" and the IGP clocks are low. The Switch is not using a Tegra Parker SoC with Pascal IGP.

The Switch is powered by an off the shelf Tegra X1 with lowered IGP clocks. There is nothing else custom about it aside from the clocks.

source?

>There is nothing else custom about it aside from the clocks.
Not quite.
Tegra X1 has 8 CPU cores.
Switch only has 4.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra#Tegra_X1
dystify.com/Overview/contents/Pages/Page_124923644.html

The Tegra X1 is a standard ARM big.LITTLE design. It is not an 8 core chip, it is two separate clusters of 4 cores. The small low power cores are used for background tasks on smartphones to increase battery life, while the big cores are only used for performance demanding workloads.
The small Cortex A53 cores in the Switch are either fused off, or simply not addressed in firmware so they're shut off.

Yes, and they can do that on the switch too, so that all 4 cores are available to games.

your source is an unconfirmed leak which if true has not even been finalized.

They already said that only 3 cores are dedicated to games.

no an unconfirmed leak said this.
however it seems not wrong to have a core dedicated to the os.

The leaked documents are confirmed as the UI mockups are the same as the final retail UI

these are old dev kit specs from like june 2016. pascal wasn't even available for them to use in the dev kits then

Splatoon was 1.2 gb, Xenoblade X was 21, and Zelda is 18

The point is that they should have 4 to dedicate to the OS.
they're probably using all 4 as the sekrit crypto processor

the ui might be unchanged since last year, doesn't mean the hardware is the same. why is the sd card slot disabled?

It's not Tegra X1, just Maxwell based. Tegra X1 has 8 cores but this custom Tegra has 4 cores.

well, yes, you cant read it. this talk about the leak early week and if its right this is what shall be inside the unit. then proceed to tell what really is inside

Because it's a devkit

Again, no.
The Switch is powered by an off the shelf Tegra X1. Nvidia did not design an entirely new junk tier leaky 20nm part just for Nintendo.
The A53 cores are shut off, and the IGP clocks are lowered. Those are the only differences between the SoC in the Switch, and the SoC in the Shield TV.

Because Nintendo is scared of homebrew.
Same reason no web browser.

old dev kits

No they didn't

Okay I think I can believe some cores were shut off.

Wow, google translate has gotten really good.

>Pascal
GTX 1080 lil cousin confirmed. Sonyponys and PC gaymers BTFO PERMANENTLY

read -----------------------------------------------------
im sure WiiU used a fraction of the energy PS3 used while being better.

Nintendo emselves actually try to put some real $$$ in R&D not like S and M that just went to wholesale newegg and put together a PC

Read what? It's already in that google translate screenshot.

>"it remains unclear which generation is used"

switch uses 5 watts

it might very well be true, but what you said is not enough to confirm it. it makes it very likely but doesnt confirm it.

>had to edit the article after likely breaking several NDC
hell, the guy that got that Switch had to give it back.

You're really grasping at straws now

possible but op asked for veracity and you keep posting without valid source.

The WiiU is powered by an MCM with 40nm and 45nm parts on it.
The most recent PS3 slim is still using the same 65nm chips that have been around for years, and its significantly older arch. Thats an apples to oranges comparison, and flat out fallacious.

The Switch's poor battery life, low IGP clocks, and limited performance spell out exactly whats powering it.
The X1 was a really high power draw part under load because 20nm planar parts have incredibly high current leakage. They were the last generation of planar parts for that reason.
Tegra Parker has a Pascal based IGP, and Pascal increases performance over Maxwell by targeting higher clocks, something the Switch doesn't do.
The new Xavier SoC isn't sampling until Q4 this year, a cheap handheld game system thats been in development for years wouldn't be using it.

Its the X1.

sure

Jesus christ the size of that heatsink is pathetic.
I seriously doubt there's any chip of substantial power under there, Pascal or Maxwell.

not really, lets say they do mistake and edited the text. there was no reason for em to remove the picture of tearing it apart

>low IGP clocks
based on old dev kits

Was there a picture of the chip?

where is the heat sink

Plenty enough with a fan running, 5w wouldn't be a problem.

It has nothing to do with dev kits, user.
The games are low poly, don't look good, and the device only has a native 720p screen. It has a 720p screen, and only manages 3~ hours of battery life while playing Breath of the Wild.

That isn't power efficient modern hardware driving a device, its leaky budget bin hardware driving a low resolution screen.

1.2 gb? Really? That's pretty impressive

wiiu uses about 40 watts, dont know now how much ps3 used but there was more time between ps3 launch and wiiu launch.

What the fuck if it only holds 32GB , does this mean most third party games like overwatch and BF aren't coming to the Switch?

name another portable device that pulls 5 watts running games like botw for 3 hours

in handheld mode i agree with about 5 watts.
in docked mode it will use more.

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About the same size as the fan in the Shield TV

This level of deflection bait doesn't work, it isn't an argument.

likely but without source it remains a guess.

you don't need to install games to the drive

>"Interesting: The graphics chip, obviously a Tegra X2, uses the Pascal architecture of current graphics card models."
The arctucle now says that the generation of the tegra is unknown

he cant, he think all works like magic and that we somehow we are able to get 1080 AAA 10 hours battery device that dont nuke itself and cost 200$

when you calculate output, power efficiency and price. Switch is about the best you can get with current tech

What drive.

Japanese is still kinda funky though afaik

GPD Win

then why do you say it's budget bin hardware, it's really efficient hardware

RELEASE A DEV KIT FOR EMULATION PLEASE

internal storage means nothing unless you are going digital.
PS4 and Xbone are slaved to a giant had drive cause they need to install games as disc reading speed cant keep up,

Switch cart based reading speed ensure you dont need pre-installation for games to run

Capcom already has a working Switch emulator. go beg em

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How much GB can a cartrige fit

this chart considers the energy used while turned off so its not very accurate to make a guess at how efficiency evolved.

>$450
>same battery life

>write speeds
Doesn't matter unless your installing a game, which shouldn't be a big issue unless you buy digital.

>been removed, seems like they got caught
You know the console is cartridge based, right?

GPD Win is 350 dollars and better battery life, 6900 mAh

>The most recent PS3 slim is still using the same 65nm chips that have been around for years

Nope. PS3 Slim has been using 45nm FOR YEARS

except this actually is very power efficient hardware.

>cant even run Mario Maker at 60fps

gpdwin.com/
>$439.99
>6000mAh

It's also smaller
Granted it's less powerful than NX in console mode, it's more powerful and has better battery than NX in handheld mode. Not to mention that there's no huge company behind the device that can afford proper R&D and there are no games that are optimized for it.

Trying to argue with someone vastly more informed and intelligent that you isn't a good idea.
The S820 powered LeEco Le Max 2 has better performance than the X1, and does it at significantly lower power.
The Le Max 2 also has a significantly higher resolution screen, and can manage 5 hours of battery life while gaming despite its high resolution panel.


The internal eMMC.

This is just sad fanboy logic.
The Tegra X1 is not efficient by any stretch of the imagination. Performance per watt was so poor it caused Nvidia to full withdraw from the mobile market because no one would buy them. The lack of competitiveness of the X1 following the equally poor K1 was the final nail in the coffin for Nvidia's mobile endeavors.
Running at its peak target clocks the Tegra X1 will pull 20w under load. Consistently. You cannot fit that inside of a slim handheld device and extrapolate the levels of performance that Nvidia shows off in their marketing slides, and manufacturers were well aware of that.

I call it budget bin hardware because thats what it is. Literally unwanted left over stock that virtually no manufacturer of mobile devices would but. A brand new Qualcomm S835 carries a price tag of $30 per unit. A two year old junk chip like the X1 would be priced well under $10 per, around $10 is what MediaTek gets for their current flagship SoCs.