Hey Sup Forums whats the best pre-built PC out there?

hey Sup Forums whats the best pre-built PC out there?

Not a shill thread, just a lazy console idoit

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for the price

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please dont do this

you're better off buying the parts and paying a computer store $100 to assemble it for you

There isn't one. Simple as that.
Your own desires and performance goals, together with your budget, matter and determine the most, and no pre-built PC will certainly satisfy you out of the box. You will also end up paying tons of extra for potentially underwhelming specs + tons of bloatware.

Seriously, PC building is almost like building Legos, except simpler in many ways. You learn a lot of useful info by doing it yourself. If you are total lazyass though, there's plenty of services that let you hand-pick components, and the shop will assemble the machine and ship it for you.

Check up logicalincrements.com and search for "(Your budget) gaming PC build" on Google and youtube for example builds.

Go use the Sup Forums pc building general that is up 24/7 where they already have recommended builds for a defined performance and will help your stupid ass.

Do not make a new thread asking what they think of your potential build.

Building a PC is like adult Legos. Its not that hard, really.

There's a few websites out there that will buy the parts for you and assemble them, though keep in mind you're paying for the PC + them putting it together. This shouldn't be a huge price increase because it's not that much work, but they will charge you more than it would cost in labor to do it because you're a lazy sack of shit.
Buying a generic pre-built off Amazon is a mistake and will not last you as long as the price would lead you to believe.

This. Most prebuilt websites are a rip off. I bought my first PC prebuilt and paid approx 200 USD premium for a AMD set up. I built my next PC from scratch armed with only base general mechanical knowledge and YT build videos and did just fine.

Worse comes to worse, buy your parts online and pay a PC store to build it for you. Will cost like 50-100 USD tops.

whats a good store that will assemble for my lazy ass

depends where you live.
seriously, if you wanna game on PC, stop being lazy. The whole thing's appeal is the insane amounts of pure freedom when it comes to customizing, optimizing and altering things.

just go to any random mom and pop pc shop in your town

look in the newspaper or find a bulletin board somewhere or -google- it

just google computer repair in your town

if you live near a micro center they will do it, and they stock tons of stuff

Go to a PC component store. Ask them to recommend you some parts for a decent build. Ask them to build the PC from those parts for some 40 bux. Worked for me and now I will never build another PC in my life, as it's much easier to just pay those 40 bux to the tech guys at my local store.

I'd do it for $50, ask one of your friends who has a PC to help you. You do need some technical knowledge but its incredibly easy

Wait about two weeks then come back again. Ryzen soon.

Or wait a few months, 1080 Ti and VEGA soon.

if you really want to go the prebulit route you can find refurb i5 desktops on newegg for around 300 or so, then buy a 1050 ti and just slap it in there

Get a used Dell Optiplex with 8gb RAM and an i3 / i5 and slap a 1050ti inside, should cost $250-350 total. Prebuilts are scams for the most part and come loaded with spyware and shit that hogs resources you have to uninstall.

"lazy" aka too low iq

as if building a pc is some grueling task

I kind of want to build a PC. Don't need a super computer. I was looking at the fair/good range:
logicalincrements.com/

Nervous though because I feel like I'll dump all this money, try to assemble it and the thing won't work right.

just get something off craigslist or ebay for 500 bucks with a nvidia card ending in 60-90

preferably in the 600-1000 series

Wait for Ryzen faggot

Here are the video I used when learning how to make my pc. I knew nothing about putting a computer together before last summer and come out fine and it started first try.

youtube.com/watch?v=VIF43-0mDk4
youtube.com/watch?v=4zAdwedmj1M

Also this

Recommending someone buy a 690
WEW LAD

Kepler is in full gimpforce mode as well. The other day a friend was bitching his GTX 670 was only getting 100 FPS in CS:GO on newest drivers (he has a 144hz monitor), I gave him a driver from 2014 before Maxwell's release and he started getting 180~ FPS.

>buying AMD anything

fucking pop kek

underage detected

Actually who the fuck am I kidding. 1999 is of age now. Shits like that probably only ever saw the FX line.

Anyways in short, AMD owned the performance CPU market from 2001 to 2006, and was directly competitive until 2011. Intel actually had to pay OEMs to use their products because they were power hungry poorly made shit. That isn't some fuckin conspiracy either they lost a lawsuit over it, and they even made a massive amount of money compared to the 1.25 billion USD fine the US courts awarded, and the 1.54 billion USD fine the Euro courts awarded.

Buy a console if you're lazy.

Build a PC if you're not.

That simple.

For the cost a console is simply the best solution overall. Cheap PC builds are just that. Cheap and not useful.

A solid mid-range PC at around 500 dollars is where you want to start.

pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/NsdMpg

how does my mid tier pc look

Thank you for the videos user.

>cpu cooler that's not hyper 212
>amd
wait for ryzen if ur gonna go amd

You don't really need the CPU cooler as your CPU is not overclockable and it will come with a stock one one. You are WAY overpaying for that RAM. I got 16GB DDR4 3000Mhz for like $65 last August. You don't need a wifi adapter.

And wait for Ryzen before you make your decision on CPU.

I'm so new at PC shit, I just want to mod and play cozy skyrim and also play the souls series again on pc.
terraria as well. So you say I dont even need a CPU cooler if I don't plan to overclock? Also I need a wifi adapter where I live.

>wait for Ryzen
But I want to order it TODAY!

They may as well officially announce Ryzen pricing, specs and release dates tomorrow and you'll feel like an idiot. If you're planning to buy AMD, there is no reason not to wait for Ryzen.

Ryzen comes out in two weeks and the i5-7500 performance equivalent is $130. You could get an i7 equivalent for $200, or a hexcore for $230

Fuckin wait for Ryzen you mongoloid.

some people just love their inferior pajeet fiery explosion poo cards

>brother works at pc shop
>pick the parts out
>purchase them
>have him put it together

Had a whole shop at my disposal.

Well maybe I take back what I said about the ram after a quick look. I'm not sure what's going on with the prices there, mine definitely wasn't that much and it wasn't nearly that much on sale.

No you don't need the cooler and the computer you posted will do much more than what you're expecting it to do. It's a pretty good build in all honesty.

And fucking wait for Ryzen. It's so close to official announcement you'd be stupid to not see all of your options before you purchase.

>99% of faggots spouting generic advice
There are some in amazon that are prebuilt but have good specs and not that overpriced. You will get cheaper/better specs by building it on your own but this is the 2nd closest.

I don't care if I get AMD or Nvidia. I just want a solid graphics card for my mid tier 1080p 60 fps build. i feel so stressed! I can see why some buy pre builts.
I keep seeing how 1060 isnt as good as a 480 and a 1070 is expensive for what I need.

Idk If I even want AMD. But if I do then wait?

Pricing, specs, and release dates are already out lol

I went over them in another thread but not many replys, probably because my first two posts didn't leave much room for idiotic shilling.

Thanks for saying my build seems good. I was going to spend $1800 on a pc or more but then I decided to just stay mid-tier because Im depressed and might not even use it as much as I think.
Alright, I'm taking the advice and waiting for Ryzen.
But can you look over my build again and see what I should change in the meantime? I took away the CPU cooler.

Post em faggot please

Build a PC it's easy. The fundamental parts are:
Motherboard
CPU (i5 or i7)
Graphic card (gtx 940 or higher)
Power supply (important to be one of very high quality--->800w is enough )
Ram--> 16 gb
Hard drive and/or ssd
A cabin ---> must have a good ventilation system
And a cpu cooler
Motherboard, cpu and graphic card must be great quality for good computer gaming
A good termic past us important (silver artic)
If you buy everything in the same store maybe they build your pc for free

RAM prices spiked quite a bit. 16gb is now $90 when it was down to $70 a few months back.

AMD CPUs work fine with Nvidia GPUs, AMD keeps its CPU and GPU business separate outside their APU line. Ryzen APUs don't come out for another 6 months though, they're intended for laptops n shit.

Even then their APUs still work fine with Nvidia GPUs, but having both AMD and Nvidia GPU drivers installed is pretty fuckin funny.

Never listen to brand loyalists on either the Nvidia, Intel, or AMD side. Make your own decisions based on benchmarks and always make sure you have looked at as many options as possible.

i have a crappy alienware pc. you're better off buying parts. it's like 2ish years old now.

The Scorpio.

You'll be waiting thom

I like how you just say motherboard, nothing on chipset even

i5 and i7 are just brands. No bearing on performance. There are dual core netbook processors that run at 2ghz that are i7s, and 10 core 4ghz monsters that cost $1650

Do GTX 940s even exist?

800 watts is enough for running two GPUs, a 650 watt will handle any processor with any GPU. Most builds can use a 550 watt.

Yeah 16gb is pretty much normal now, low end builds will still use 8gb. 4gb is poverty tier.

>CABIN
>TERMIC PAST

Also it's Arctic Silver, and yeah their paste is alright, not the best but alright

Owner of a 1060 here - fantastic vidya card. The difference between this and the 480 is mainly power draw and noise. As far as the CPU, definitely wait for Ryzen - at the very least, it'll drive down the price of the intels that are currently offered.

Alienware isn't too bad, you're just paying out the nose for vanilla stuff.

You could try any number of custom PC businesses.
Falcon Northwest is pretty popular, and they can probably build whatever Alienware / Dell would sell you for a lot less.

In fact, it's a good idea to write down the Alienware specs you like (CPU, memory amount and speed, GPU), then look for other custom PC services that offer the same stuff.

Building it yourself would be cheaper, for sure, but if you don't know what you're doing, you'll likely run into trouble and you'll have a couple dozen companies to call and ask for support instead of just one as with the case of a prebuilt.

Im having a hard time deciding between the two still.
Also is Ryzen just a CPU thing? I will wait for that.
There are too many options when it comes to building a pc. Im taking a break for the day.

Guess my country

Ryzen is the new AMD CPU line. Vega is the new AMD GPU line.

>shitposters claim all pre-builts are overpriced
As usual

>i5 and i7 are just brands. No bearing on performance.
That is false. i7 chips have significantly better performance afforded by larger caches and more PCI-E lanes, among other optimizations.

Even this aside, it's a bad idea to buy anything Intel right now.
With very competitive Ryzen chips launching soon, you'll regret paying the prices Intel wants right now.

You should note that the 1060 3gb is a terrible card though. Games are being made for 4gb of VRAM as the standard now.

Not to mention that the 1060 3gb has 128 shaders, out of 1280 total, disabled. 1060 6gb should be called the 1060 Ti

And yeah power draw, the RX 480 draws around 30 watts more.

tigani

Ryzen is AMD's CPU line. The advantage to waiting for Ryzen is that Intel's CPU prices are guaranteed to plummet because the chips are so competitive that they're rumored to be less than half the price for equal performance at retail.

Regardless of whether you want AMD or Intel, it's better for your wallet to wait.
Of course, you could just pick up a prebuilt if you don't care about the very rewarding DIY aspect. The savings are rarely worth the trouble, especially if you get your advice from here.

I really don't care aboutprebuilts as a practice, but do think less of you if you buy one and I encourage people not to because it is very simple to build a pc. It's also quite fun to choose all the parts for your computer, see them all arrive in the mail, and then assemble that shit yourself. It's very rewarding. And the fact of the matter is you will spend more money buying a prebuilt than you will putting it together yourself and you're robbing yourself of that experience.

But goods motherboards use intel sockets
Also, I still don't understand the "intel jew meme"
It's AMD CPUs are cheaper?

There's no point buying 3200MHz RAM when your processor only supports up to 2400MHz unless the faster RAM is cheaper, also don't forget to enable support for it in the BIOS or it'll run at 2133MHz.

You should also be aware that your motherboard only has a single system fan header while your case comes with two fans.

I'd recommend cheaper ram and going for a slightly better B250 motherboard, like the GA-B250M-D3H if you want to stick with Gigabyte (this has 3 fan headers) or the MSI B250M Bazooka (2 fan headers).

If you have a smart phone, you can install the drivers for it and connect it to your PC in tether mode and remove the need for a wifi adapter altogether.

You need a GPU of some kind, onboard video is not sufficient.

AMD's current CPU line is called "Bulldozer", which is a real stinker of an architecture. They used the 'FX' label on it and everything, as if that would make it more attractive (historically, it meant something).

The new CPU line "Ryzen" has leaked benchmarks that show it's competitive with Intel's best, and the pricing is much fairer.

The Intel jewing meme comes from the fact that Intel is jewing its monopoly for all its worth. They haven't innovated for 3 generations, and speeds haven't improved at all over the last few years, so the keep hiking prices and segmenting the market with a myriad of minutely different products that are all cut-down versions of the best offering, which they overcharge for by something like 220%. The profit margins are insane, but that's what happens when your competition is being a dopey shit.

Thankfully, AMD has snapped out of it, so Intel has to get their shit together, too.

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man look at all these i7's, we got netbook atom cores, dual cores, quad cores, hexes, eights, tens.

all a fuckin brand mate.

Yes within the same line, an i7 will outperform an i5, but you can't tell me that shit ass netbook core is going to beat an i5 7600K

and sometimes those differences in performance aren't major either. ark.intel.com/compare/95449,95452,97461,95441

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One where got pick the parts yourself.

They still use the TIM, but a large part of the issue was the heatspreader was lifted quite a bit off the die. The Haswell-Refresh fixed the heatspreader problem (4690K, 4790K). TIM saves pennies per processor.

Note: on the higher i7's they still use fluxless solder.

AMD has only ever used fluxless solder.

>look at all these i7 chips
>they perform better and have more features than the i5 chips for their respective platforms

Yeah, I said that.

What are you even arguing?

How much longer til GPU price drops? I got the vgmeme monitor but a crappy 670 for a GPU.

You missed that part where Intel has no answer to Ryzen because you can fuck P6's dead body for only so long. Their entire market strategy was based around full node shrinks, thus making their chips smaller and more energy efficient. But Zen is simply better. It's even smaller despite using inferior 14nm LPP process from Samsung. tl;dr: Intel is soooo fucked until 2021 when their new arch will launch and pray to gods it would not be a second coming of NetBurst.

I don't want to go to reddit buildapcforme so i'm asking you guys.
Please, build me a pc. My budget is $1,200 and I already have a keyboard mouse monitor (1080p 60fps)

Wait for Ryzen. Actual answer: wait for fucking Ryzen then go to /pcbg/.

I went over Ryzen here
It's a completely different architecture, with a different design team. The old team pretty much got all fired or moved to the cat cores.

The main flaw with Bulldozer is they wanted to use long pipelines with narrow cores to reduce die size while increasing frequency; while cutting die size further by making certain parts of the core shared. Paradigm was high frequency, high parallelism. This led to massive problems with cache, and pipeline bubbles out the ass. Any branch misprediction cost an extremely large amount of time. The fact the FPU was also shared between Integer clusters led to terrible Floating Point performance.

Needless to say in general purpose shit, it failed utterly. But in the loads it was designed for, sheer Integer throughput with minimal branching, it outperformed Intel. Not much uses that very specific load so it's pretty much a failure of an architecture.

If you wanted to compress a file, media transcoding, or code compilation, that was pretty much the perfect architecture hue.

That was my point, the guy I was replying to originally just said "(i5 or i7)", no word on platform. I don't want some idiot buying a netbook i7 then complaining that it's shit.

Don't limit your sources.

Read the guide, read the main reddit guide, and check out MMOchampion's build of the month. I would recommend waiting for the ryzen and for the GPU prices to begin dropping.

Want the best fucking deal?

Read this

I5 7500- $200
B170 motherboard- $80
8 gigs ram- $40
1080p monitor- $80
Rx 470- $160
500w power supply- $50
Decent pc case-$60
Hard drive 1tb- $50

This is a really good builds for cheap for like 700 bucks

The worst part of PC gaming isn't the price or the shitty fan bases or assembling, but just random shit not working and software issues.

I've had more trouble with my M.2 drive booting properly, or the ASUS realtek audio software popping up frequently than with building or my RX 480.

>buying locked kiketel shit right before the Ryzen
All of my keks.

>paying a computer store $100 to assemble it for you
Wat? My local electronics store does that shit for free if you order all parts through them.