It's time to discuss the best RPG ever made.
Morrowind
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But that's not Gothic 2
Maximum autism.
Time to filter gothic.
stay mad
I hate these fucking threads
Strange choice of a pic for a Gothic thread.
I should make another Morrowind thread.
>the secret passage doesn't even have stairs
Wow, who designed this dungeon? shit design, steam refund inbound
I could never get into Morrowind until I never dedicated time to it, but once I did it was really enjoyable. I tried Gothic a couple years back but didn't get too far (got to some mine or something). Should I give it another shot?
Morrowind is a bad meme. You lied to me.
You told me it was much better than Skyrim. You told me:
>better, bigger, handcrafted dungeons!
Nope. Most of them are MUCH simplier even than in fucking skyrim. Not to mentions most of them are just copypasted tombs, caves or mines with the same wooden structures etc Even late game shit is simplistic as fuck.
>Great, interesting world
except big mushrooms and flying squids, everything else feels so fucking boring, bland and repetitive. Oh look! Here's one of games 10 monsters in different flavour! Wow! What's this? Another empty road surrounded by trees/burned trees/swamp! Exciting!
>Quest were amazing
Most of quests are literal fetch quests. When I installend it like ~10 days ago one of the first things I noticed was that mages guild quests are all pointless fetchquests with literally no choice whatsoever. I mean, some situations begged for options to choose, yet Morrowind gives us less choices thn skyrim. And that's saying something. Almost all other quests are similar, to the point where fucking escorting a dog seems like interesting adventure.
>b-but stats, true rpg experience!
There are few more stats than in Skyrim/Oblivion. Advancing skills are litle bit harder, which is good, but still, it's basically spam of preffered type of weapon/magicka.Even with those 7-8 additional base stats, rpg mechanics in Morrowind still seem about as advanced as in Skyrim, maybe except the fact, that TES 3 t least try to encourage player to stick to his main skills.
>It's better written
No it's not. Dialogues are mostly Bethesda-tier, and obviously most of the lines are those repeating topics you can discuss with anyone.
>Combat except melee is better.
Good thing nobody wnted to pretend melee was good, but rest of combat is still pretty garbage. chaotic, buggy, shallow, stiff even by 2002 standards.
I mean - game's got great music and no questmarkers/journal-heavy questing are wonderful ideas, but it's TESV-tier game.
Gothic is a game where the beginning is very hard to get into and unfriendly for new players, but once you stick with it and get past the controls and ugly graphics you discover the true game
also 2 is a lot better than 1
Arx fatalis shits on morrowind any time of the day
there's no need to have stairs when you can just climb things
2/10
next time, wait until you have an actual post to respond to, so that it's not so obvious you're copypasting a prewritten response
Pic unrelated, I presume.
but he's right in some areas
Morrowind's world is dead and has 0 life
>expecting cemetery-goers to have to climb things instead of walking up stairs
Wow, who designed this dungeon? shit design, steam refund inbound
>Morrowind exploration
youtube.com
>bunch of dudes standing around
This webm really proves that Gothic is only for autists. They can't handle any real social contact, so this is what 'life' looks like to them.
this
What the fuck is alive about that? It's just a bunch of guys standing around with canned animations
>NPCs change their places throughout the day, during the day they perform their daily tasks, but during the evening they go to a tavern. Then at night they go to their homes and go to sleep, and that's the best moment to sneak into their houses and steal their belongings while they're asleep
>everyone in my game has to follow a super-rigid timed schedule or else i'm going to freak the fuck out
tell me more, user
Its not a cemetery, its a crypt
They just removed the ladders after they finished making it
do u realize that webm is like 7 seconds long?
did u expect them to do 100 different things in 7 seconds?
Morrowind NPCs also have schedules
>even animals have their schedules. You can wait till nightfall and sneak and hunt an animal that went to sleep in its lair
My nigga
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wrong webm
Jesus christ lol. Go yank it and calm the fuck down.
>no fatigue
wew shitpost harder
Morrowind isn't an aRPG
that's pretty cool
>low agility + skill with short swords
>against a fist using NPC that drains your stamina
>not charging the swings
>also Level 1
lol
You have to engage in repetitive motions or tasks in order to retain your composure? tell me more, user
>not building stairs in a crypt so that when more people get entombed there they don't have the pall bearers jumping down seven foot drops
Wow, who designed this dungeon? shit design, steam refund inbound
>animals also fight other animals and other NPCs, for example a wolf can chase and kill a sheep and then the farmer protecting the sheep will kill the wolf
nobody cares, user
we're not talking about gothic
please take your autism elsewhere
skeltals don't need ladders
What's funny is it's always the same, posting the same webms and stuff. He really is super autistic.
This isn't exactly revolutionary, the wolf is just part of a different AI faction than the sheep and farmer
See, I loved that in Morrowing: it has mechanisms that auto-filter people who wouldn't able to appreciate it anyway.
Was Vivec an asshole or /ourguy/
And yet something as easy as factions is still beyond modern devs
368183294 shut the fuck up and go back to your easy rpg games your fucking pesant
>October 2016
This shit is never coming out
OpenMW is better anyway
but Morrowind is easy compared to Gothic
>Skywind
lol
Latest update was 1 month ago
>some literal who who made up a story
lol
But user the crypt is haunted and sealed
Also fuck off with steam, their version is broken shit and doesnt even work on a lot of pcs without patching
slowly losing my sanity
help me trainwiz
From experience I believe it.
Would not be the first mod torn apart by drama, and it has happened to games with much more niche following.
not him, but not the point, genius
why does this shit STILL have the worst fucking lighting imaginable?
>36 tomes of nothing but gay innuendo, trans acceptance and general degeneracy
>IT'S OK WHEN MORROWIND DOES IT!!!!!
kys fags
>not pic related
Fuck off drones.
>implying there's anything wrong with those things
go back to Sup Forums
now THIS i can get behind
>nu-vegas
fuck off
okay seriously what is with the FO:NV obsession on Sup Forums
it's a shit game with shit dialogue
everything is brown'n'orange, models look like shit, glitchy as hell, combat sucks, story makes no sense if you don't do every sequence in it's proper order, music is bad
is it just because Sup Forums is underage?
Spoken like a true degenerate
>says the obsidrone
Sup Forums used to always think of it as medicore, now all of sudden it's the best game ever
prob 2 or 3 shills
say what's wrong with those things without resorting to buzzwords
>install mca
>morrowind is populated
wow!
>install morrowidn rebirth
>dungeons are varied and more are added origonal dungeons are improved
neat!
>install tamriel rebuilt
>whole of mainland morrowind to explore and quest in with new items and spells
Sweet!
Gothic is an Arpg, Morrowind is a Crpg, they were also made for different rpg players.
You got to me reply, good on ya.
why are you even engaging with him, user?
Sup Forumsfags run on attention
just don't reply to his posts, it's not like you can actually change his mind on anything
he only accepts facts that agree with his already established worldview
>mca
>add more generic copy+paste NPCs that do nothing
also
>DUDE BUT MODS CAN FIX IT!!!
>what is piercing
will never ever be finished
I don't get why they still attempt these projects, there's been like 10 of them since the release of Oblivion and they never get nowhere near finished
>game doesnt even work
Wow, who designed this game? shit design, steam refund inbound
i really like that sneak animation.
So what is your favorite kind of character to play?
I always end up being a Nightblade sort, specializing in Illusion, Mysticism, and short blades. I feel a little guilty because I never make combat oriented characters. But Morrowind makes stealth-wizardry so fun and rewarding.
>hey, let's talk about morrowind guys! morrowind thread!
>I DON'T THINK SO GOTHIC IS FAR SUPERIOR
just make another thread, you autistic piece of shit.
If you are going to tell me that Gothic do anything more then Im going to laugh at your attempts.
But I am going to laugh at the fact you expect a TES game to not have mods, and the fact that you believe any game cant be improved with mods. Mods keep games alive, its a proven fact.
Yer a faggot user,
That's Gabens fault buy on GoG instead
should i finish the main quest before i do a run with morrowind rebirth? im working on becoming hortator now. is it different enough that ill want to replay with it, even after recently beating the game for the first time? or if not, is it of such quality that i should just go straight to it after seeing a lot of vanilla, other than red mountain?
the opposite happens in every gothic thread
This is only happening because faggot OP is copying gothic thread OP
Why does Skywind even exist when there's projects like Tamriel Rebuilt?
Dumbing down Morrowind defeats the whole purpose
the problem with NPCs in Morrowind is that they're static, dead, boring, do absolutely nothing, and have copy+paste walls of the SAME text every time making them generic.
Adding more of them doesn't fix the problem
what's even the point of this webm
>let's discuss bad games instead of good ones
What's this logic?
Maybe they want to experience Morrowind but just really, really dislike its gameplay and prefer Skyrim's gameplay. I wouldn't want to be friends with such a person but they might exist.
Western shit is never good, go play dark souls if you want a good rpg.
>dark souls
>role-playing game
One dark souls quest is 10 times better than the main quest of these shitty games, sorry. Not even going to talk about gameplay because you know western shit doesn't have it.
Dark Souls doesn't have quests.
cmon fuckers
>yes/no on morrowind rebirth?
Not in the traditional sense, but with character creation and an emphasis on immersion and choice of how to play your character and what to do, it comes close enough.
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Does someone still have the epub containing all of the TES ingame book?
When I look for it on google I just found a dead mega.
A game having different weapon types and level ups doesn't make it an RPG.
boy i sure wish nerevar rising wasn't constantly playing in my head on infinite loop
I finally found that one file I was searching for : go to your Morrowind installation folder then /Morrowind/Data Files/Sound/Vo/w/m/Hlo_WMa
135.mp3 It's worth it.
>reading a guide to meet and talk to an npc in random ass locations with no indication where to go
Gooooood """"""""""quest"""""""""" design
Why is this picture necessary?
Gothic guy, I like you. Please never stop.
Gothic 1+2 are truly the best rpg ever made. Glad to see someone thinking the same.
So why are there "egg poachers" in Morrowind? It's really not a profitable venture, have you tried it? Stealing all the eggs in a mine just weighs you down and they're not that valuable. Common burglary would be simpler and more worthwhile.
Now, robbing ebony and glass mines is incredibly profitable. I think there's even one diamond mine in Vvardenfel, too.
The only egg poachers I remember are basically poor as fuck peasants with no gear.
Ebony and glass mines have at least one or two well armed guards in them.
Also eggs are a good alchemical ingredient.