The great debate

The great debate.

>Gyarados, Starmie, Vaporeon, Lapras, Slowbro, Tentacruel
Why the fuck would you ever consider the water starter of any gen unless it's exceptionally good?

Blastoise has best design, too bad he is the worst started.

Primarina is my wife

Fuck off furfag nobody loves you.

I WILL ENTER YOU AND THEN FILL YOUR ASS WITH CUM,

blastoise is for people with refined taste, charizard is for your little brother that wanted the "dwagon"

>taste this shit

Neat. When did May ever have a Venusaur?

I'll have them both

/thread

She got a bulbasaur during ash's run through the battle frontier that was located in kanto for some reason.
Then she came to sinnoh for a short while and met up with ash so that she could evolve her eevee into a glaceon.
She also has a wartortle.

Has Charizard ever lost to Blastoise in any form of media? Aside from Death Battle.

I think Siebold's mega Blastoise beat Alain's mega Charizard X

Blastoise was always my favourite. Remember when I played Red for the first time, when I met the legendary birbs instead of capturing them I killed them to prove that BLASTOISE IS THE STRONGEST IN THE WORLD. Good times

>Slowbro
I respect this suggestion.

I choose neither.

>obese turtle who did nothing in the anime versus a badass dragon who was always portrayed as a demi-god in the show as well

Hurr durr such a hard choice

Remove/replace Ash The Loser

swampert is the best

Because it's GOAT and constantly using the same pokemon isn't fun either.
Also Starmie and tentacruel are lame.

>implying there's a debate

M-Swampert and Primarina are good.

Wow rude

Wasn't Alain the guy who caused a big fuss by beating Ash's Greninja with his Charizard X because it had infinite health or something?

I just know any time I can think of that a Blastoise and a Charizard have fought Charizard has always won somehow. Happened all of the time in the manga.

>Starmie and tentacruel are lame.

The fuck was his problem?

Mudkip is the best and cutest pokemon

>Wasn't Alain the guy who caused a big fuss by beating Ash's Greninja with his Charizard X because it had infinite health or something?
yes the salt it created was delicious.
It made sense though that Charizard was fucking insane it had the feats to back it up, also it was the only pokemon that guy had for the longest time, he only caught 5 other mons, because Ash egged him on to participate in the leageau eventhough he had no interest in it before hand.

He already has his perfect and pure waifu, to who he was 100% dedicated to.

Blastoise badass turtle with giant guns

Charizard is a fire breathing dragon

Venasaur is am ugly plant thing

>lapras
the other choices are fine though

Best girl
Best pokemon, kinda ties with a few others though

My nigga.

That all may be true, but I can't help but feel like it being a Charizard has a lot to do with that.

>perfect
Sorry but as far as looks go Zinnia shits all over her.

More salt was produced then all the ocean's combined. I mean we knew Alains Charizard is crazy, he had plenty of special anime episodes dedicated towards it.

Still, with Ash being so close to the league and the way they went about it made people furious. Pikachu hits Charizard with a pretty strong attack, Greninja hits him twice with his strongest technique. The first time Greninja's attack hit it did some major damage and staggered the fuck out of him, the second time the charizard no sold and Greninja fainted from a Fire attack.

Don't forget it was down to the last pokemon in the finals, it looked like Ash was finally going to win the league.

>it looked like Ash was finally going to win the league.
people never learn even after 20 years they still have hope that Ash would win.
It is suprising really.

I loved the guillotine spam Bisharp. That was hilarious!

>unsheathes claws
>flys behind you

Nothing personal, Turtle.

>unsheathes sun
>solar beams behind you
Fix'd

>>unsheathes DORAGON KUROU
FTFY

Blastoise, Nidoking, Pidgeot, Scyther, Haunter, Alakazam

>People who not choose Charmander

>Being a basic bitch

Personally I'd have been fine with it if 1. it wasn't such obvious hax and 2. it was anything but Charizard (and Lucario).

I can easily solve this: go back to /vp/ and obsess over your gateway furshit there.

>Being extremely boring

>a firebreathing lizard
>a turtle with a weird tail that can stand on its hind legs and spew water
vs.
>a weird and curious-looking frog-lizard thing that is actually half of a creature where the other half is the big-ass seed on its back, can do shit like spontaneously grow vines to whip shit with, shoot out razor sharp leaves, poison and knock out opponents with pollen sprays, plant health-sapping leech seeds on the opponent, and even shoot out concentrated beams of solar energy

Venusaur, how is that a question?

trying way too hard

it's just a ugly plant

I hate how they fucked up Swampert's design with the mega evolution. He looks fat as fuck.

I'm a sucker for steel-types and Empoleon looks classy

Fuck this guy I hate the fact he won with Pokemon he didn't even have before.

Squirtle gets your through the first gym
Bulbasaur gets you through the first two
Charmander makes you discover the wonders of buterfree's confusion and Abra's everything

>Tentacruel is lame

too bad he's too busy fucking his fat flame badger bitch

I mean yeah, Starmie IS pretty shit, but Tentacruel is a cool looking fucker.

...

actual fpbp?

He isn't the champ for nothing how can Ashy boy even compete?

If you didn't replay the game with every starter you're basically a faggot and missing out. I even set my starter free and beat the game with a rattata

Pikachu so I can use Flareon, Vileplume, and Dewgong

Blastoise is the only Kanto starter I'm using in SM though because I like its Mega

My Feraligatr friends

R8 my Gen 4 Gym

>People who choose Charmander

I fucking lover Scizor
I fucking hate its' evolution method
Or, well, basically any and all trade-to-evolve pokemons' evolution method.

This nigga gets it.

>he chose bulbasaur
What's it like not being loved?

>being contrarian

Let's be real here, Alain was a gary stu. Simple as that.

if there was a debate, Charizard won years ago

Venusaur > Blastoise > > > > > > charizard

even with negative spin where you tried to make it sound boring, Charizard is still the most interesting thing you described there

12 year old detected

This time he'll win for sure! You gotta believe me.

I know there is no league and he's just fucking around on vacation, but he'll totally win this time.

There are better gen 1 fire pokemon, and better gen 1 water pokemon. Venusaur is the best gen 1 grass (closely followed by victreebel)

I just hope they never go full retard like Ash-Greninja again.

>There are better gen 1 fire pokemon, and better gen 1 water pokemon
Name them

Whoa, calm down Joey.

Arcanine and Gyarados.

Arcanine, moltres
Starmie, slowbro, lapras

>Watch the pokemon origins anime
>Not autistically into pokemon or anime but enjoy the original story of red being told from the first game
>Last episode ends on Red capturing Mewtwo
>Charizard mega-evolves to beat him
>My fucking face when they put this abortion right at the end of what is supposed to be a neat little anime about the original story

Why'd they have to ruin it like that?

BUY X/Y AND YOU CAN HAVE YOUR MEGA CHARIZARD X TOO!!!!!!!!!

That was xy marketing dumbass

>building your team in PvE around what're the strongest Pokemon

I'd ask if you're literally retarded to need to do so around the retard-proof enemy teams throughout the series, but it takes at least a little thought to bother looking up base stats and movesets ahead of time.

>Look it up
>It's true
Charizard has a better movepool and Blastoise has better typing though

fire/6

Ones a legendary and one's version exclusive


I've always thought that Fire pokemon tend to be rare though

>Trick people who are watching a short anime series about games they played
>Lull them into a false sense of nostalgia
>Right at the end pull some fucking bullshit and bastardize 90% of peoples favourite pokemon and retcon the story what most people consider to be the strongest pokemon trainer ever and most iconic

B R A V O

Only Slowbro is right tbqh. Amnesia was OP.

Venusaur is my favourite visually, and just so happens to be the strongest of the three in battles as well. Charizard has the hardest time against people who know what they're doing since he takes 4x rock damage and is weak to electric/water. Blastoise is a pretty standard water pokemon, nothing special. You don't lose much when you add a secondary psychic type, but you usually gain higher special and more versatility so slowbro and starmie are tanky powerhouses in gen 1

ash is the stronger trainer

>people asked for years for charizard to be a fire/dragon
>nooooooooo I get triggered with changes into my gen 1

BURASTO
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I don't really care. 9 out of 10 normies would say Red is the strongest and they retconned his iconic story to market a shitty game with mega-evolutions

LEAVE THE MEMORIES ALONE GAMEFREAK

water can put out fire but fire can't put out water

Normies only know ash, Nobody know who is red

normies didn't knew who red and blue were, only ash and gary

maybe they still don't know

But that's wrong
Anyone who played gen 2 would say Red is strongest

>obese turtle vs obese lizard with wings