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Screencap this if you want, but in a few years this will almost unanimously be considered the best Soulsborne game with only Bloodborne rivaling it.

1 has too many flaws and shits the bed after you get the Lord Vessel.

2 will be all but forgotten and be considered by far the worst.

Demon's Souls will be remembered fondly, but mostly as a prototype to the formula which was heavily improved by later games.

3 only has so much negative reception because of how saturated the games were and how it came out right after BB. Once we go a few years without a new Souls game people will start to appreciate it more.

It has the best bosses in the series (rivaled only by BB and that's if you include the DLC)

But muh rehash, yes because Blighttown didn't just rehash Valley of Defilment. The Gargoyles weren't just rehashes of Maneaters, and Asylum Demon wasn't just a rehash of Vanguard.

But muh poise, it's called hyper armor. And poise in 1 wouldn't at all work with 3's system. Poise was pretty damn stupid anyway and was super abusable. The only thing that should be fixed is Heavy Armor granting higher damage absorption.

B-but you just spam rolls, yeah because that takes less skill than just raising your shield against a boss and taking no damage whats over and never having to actually roll half the time.

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>saturated

Agreed

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CAN I BORROW YOUR TIME MACHINE?

Right about everything. DaS3 is the best installment in the series. Best combat. Best AI. Best level variety. It is the peak of the formula.

2 is the best of the series.

1 added nothing
3 removed variety and viability
BB is a dual caestus run with the evil eye ring equipped

Honestly, I can see this happening. Bonus points if the last DLC is good too.

alright, screencapped and put in my time vault. I'll contact you in say, five years. We'll be in touch.

No, it's utter dogshit and the worst game in the series by far.

I stopped playing it half a year ago. The DLC brought me back for a couple of weeks, and I'm gone again. I'll come and go again when the next DLC comes out.

DaS2 is better than 3, because at least DaS2 could feel different on a second playthrough.

You just destroyed all the hur-dur Sup Forums circlejerk hivemind with your well argued irrefutable argument. Simply amazing,

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nah

it has no replay value

This.
However, 3 has the best player movement/weapon movesets/overall combat.

It's tough going back to 2/1 after 3 because of player speed and specifically the sprinting heavy attack turning into a leap attack.
3 is also MUCH prettier and filled with elements in each area. 2 feels really outdated in "things to see" deparment.

Thank you for sharing your opinion.
I would say that Bloodborne is slightly better than Dark Souls 3, simply because there is slightly more viable build variety in the pvp.
The "trick weapon" system was great, and I wish the next souls game has something similar, so you can combo from one weapon to another mid-swing.
I think such a system would really diversify the weapon matchups.

>2 is the best of the series.
Unironically this and I'm not even memeing, though I've never played Bloodborne or Demon Souls.

>1 has too many flaws and shits the bed after you get the Lord Vessel.
nah, it doesn't shit the bed, but it does fart
>2 will be all but forgotten and be considered by far the worst.
2 actually tried to be different, 3 is essentially a copypaste of des, 1, bits of 2 and bb, it's lazy
>Demon's Souls will be remembered fondly, but mostly as a prototype to the formula which was heavily improved by later games.
nah
>3 only has so much negative reception because of how saturated the games were and how it came out right after BB. Once we go a few years without a new Souls game people will start to appreciate it more.
no, 3 has bad reception because it's linear and has no replay value, also it does a lot of somewhat annoying things
>It has the best bosses in the series (rivaled only by BB and that's if you include the DLC)
the only good bosses are aldrich and champion gundyr
>But muh rehash, yes because Blighttown didn't just rehash Valley of Defilment. The Gargoyles weren't just rehashes of Maneaters, and Asylum Demon wasn't just a rehash of Vanguard.
3 rehashes even more than 1
>But muh poise, it's called hyper armor. And poise in 1 wouldn't at all work with 3's system. Poise was pretty damn stupid anyway and was super abusable. The only thing that should be fixed is Heavy Armor granting higher damage absorption.
2 had the best poise system
>B-but you just spam rolls, yeah because that takes less skill than just raising your shield against a boss and taking no damage whats over and never having to actually roll half the time.
what does this even mean

>nah
nah

But he's right. The only reason to go for a NG+ in DS3 is if you're a cheevo hunting autist.

Min-maxing builds with rings as well.

>nah, it doesn't shit the bed, but it does fart
Izalith and Demon's ruins are terrible and rushed hackjobs. Duke's Archives is literally 2 identical rooms with a bulllshit forced death. New Londo is actually kinda cool even if 4kings is a terrible dps race where everyone just puts on full havel and tanks it. The latter half is redeemed with the dlc, and even then Royal Wood is just a copypasted Darkroot Garden.

>2 actually tried to be different, 3 is essentially a copypaste of des, 1, bits of 2 and bb, it's lazy
It rehashes and does more callbacks than 3 though. Copy and pasted Ornstein, a gargoyle rehash, some Solaire Covenant. And even if it does have some nifty new ideas, it doesn't matter if the structural integrity holding it together is fucking weak.

>the only good bosses are aldrich and champion gundyr

Just lol at this. 3 has by far the best bosses in the series, again with only Bloodborne rivaling it. And nothing in it is as bad a Bed of Bullshit, or the bosses in Demon's Ruins/Lost Izalith.

>3 rehashes even more than 1
having Anor Londo again and showing the state of it now, is far better than having a very similar level or boss from a previous entry but isn't called the same thing. That would be an actual rehash, hell if you mongs want to go with the rehash argument, you'd have a better argument calling Abyss Watchers a rehash of Artorias.

>what does this even mean
You can't just turtle behind a shield all day like you could in 1. And you actually had to use rolls and switch it up. The only bosses that really emphasizes this in 1 was the dlc bosses.

>You can't just turtle behind a shield all day like you could in 1

with normal shields? not really. with a greatshield? hell yea, you can turtle.

That's kinda what I meant. I mean you still can, but you have to use greatshields, which makes it more balanced.

Your arrogance disgusts me.

Do you think you're a prophet?

What patterns are you latching on to?

They were fed to you by twisted creatures that hate and fear you.

I don't know why you're fighting to predict what video games will be called "best" when there's far far more important things to care about.


You were so close to true love, and someone poisoned you. Do you remember?

They're scared of me the most.

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No, Dark Souls 5 will be, followed by BB, 1, 4, 3, DeS, 6, and finally 2.

These are even less substantiated claims than the OP.

Shake your head until you wake up or it pops off.

Either will do.

If you think killing me will save you bring a knife.

If the DLC is good you may be right.

Series fatigue hit like a truck with this game. Every weapon you pick up is something you've been using for six years.

stop being annoying dude

jesus just fuck off man

I agree OP. The gameplay is polished, level design is excellent and the fan service is fun, without being obnoxious. Height of the series for me.

>best bosses
i'm not done with the game yet but even Das2 had better bosses than this.

They all feel like gimmicky shit, with tons of adds or just stupid weak points you have to attack.

DaS1 and BB had way better bosses.

the only one I remember with the weakpoint was Crestwood, and I guess the twins?

Also highly disagree with 1 having better bosses. Other than O&S and the dlc bosses most are incredibly easy and have basic patterns. I guess Gargoyles is at least memorable for your first playthrough though.

you can't hyper armor 95% of boss hits so what does it matter. Poise worked for anything as it should.

people don't argue rehashed bosses, they argue that it had a lot of terrible bosses like wyvern, deacons, yhorm (let down), sages, etc.

the roll argument you have is retarded as well. Rolling is the only viable thing against bosses. Using a shield is fucking terrible because every boss does fucking anime combos that will rape your stamina unless you go for specific greatshield builds. Das1 you could use a shield or roll just as effectively as each other.

games a straight fucking line level design wise and the washed out colors and piss filter alone kills the game. Fuck off retard

And DaS1 has 4 kings, Nito, Seath, Capra, Bed of Bullshit, Golem, Moonlight Butterfly, Ceaseless Discharge, 3 Asylum Demon reskins. All of which are far worse.

3's bosses are much more consistent than 1 and aren't anywhere near as bed as the worst.

You can use a greatshield against bosses to tank, or use a shield and roll, or just roll period. You can't just sit there like a retard behind a shield like you can in Das1 which was babby mode. And that's actually fucking good that you need to spec into greatshields if you want to be able to just sit there and tank attacks and not have to roll as opposed to being able to block everything with a flimsy shield.

Fuck off with the straight line design, the level design in 1 is highly fucking overrated. People just go crazy over MUH INTERCONNECTIVITY, Duke's archives, is literally 2 identical rooms, and Tomb of the giants, and the last level is also a straight line retard. Individual levels in dark souls 3 are far more expansive and elaborate than individual levels in 1.

You're just a retarded nostalgic fanboy.

all thoses bosses you listed are better than wyvern and deacons.

To use a greatshield against a boss like sulvayn you would need high as fuck strength for a good shield and high as fuck stamina to tank his combos. You'll still take elemental chip too. If you say just block then roll away, why not just roll away in the first place? why even block at all? There's never a point to use a shield against a boss. Not a single boss was made easier with a shield and I've beat the game 7+ times.

If the game mechanics/gameplay, world design and art direction/aesthetic weren't so awful I'd probably agree. Well, after they create a patch that makes weapons that aren't short swords viable.

>every boss in Dark Souls 3 is humanoid and has a huge fire enchanted sword, and if From is feeling especially spicy, they'll dual wield an extra dark sword
Just how many fucking bosses are guilty of this?

>Bed of Chaos
>better then the worst DS3 boss
>not the lowest fucking boss on every possible list
the hell are you smoking I want some

At least they're memorable

Let's plot this out.

Bosses with swords in DS3:
>Abyss Watchers
>High Lord Wolnir
>Pontiff Sulyvahn
>Dancer of the Boreal Valley
>Lothric and Lorian
>Soul of Cinder

Of those bosses, the following use fire on their swords:
>Abyss Watchers (stage 2 only)
>Pontiff Sulyvahn
>Dancer of the Boreal Valley
>Lorian (not Lothric)
>Soul of Cinder

Of those, the following dual wield with an enchanted sword:
>Pontiff Sulyvahn
>Dancer of the Boreal Valley

hmmmmmmm

It's also entirely acceptable for so many bosses to use fire when it's a hugely recurring theme for the entire game

>weapon movesets
Fuck you.
Go take a look at
>curved greatswords
>greataxes
>reapers
>rapiers
>ultra greatswords
>great hammers
>hammers
>axes
>even fucking straight swords

There is perhaps one in each class, if even that, with unique r2s. Most of those are just black knight weapons.

Literally no one would agree with you that Bed of Chaos is better than Wyvern, and Deacons isn't even that bad of a boss other than being easy. There's literally so many problems with Bed of Chaos that it rightfully deserves the place as worst Soulsborne boss.

Dude even DSP blocked all of Pontiff's attacks with a regular shield in his first phase when he beat him, not even with a great shield. Also you take elemental chip damage from bosses like Gwyn too, forgot if Queelag did as well but most likely. As for why blocking easy, it requires less skill and timing, so being able to fall back on that is nice.

>weapon movesets
Fuck no. It's arguable with Dark Souls 2, but I would say even then 3 has worse variety. In DaS1 a lot of weapons had unique R2s that were sometimes viable and good for combos, in DaS3 almost every weapon in a class is the same except for weapon arts, which frequently repeat anyways. They didn't kill Black Knight Movesets, at least, but almost every new weapon is redundant, the only real exceptions being the dual wielded weapons, which have a normal one handed moveset and an anime bullshit two handed moveset.

I was mainly talking about the giant tree boss and the skeleton king.

For the tree you just run up and hit its sacs or whatever, and then the skeleton king you just hit its bracers.

Most of the other bosses I've experienced so far are just like a bunch of adds and shit that aren't really that enjoyable or memorable.

idk I'll reserve judgement until I finish the game I just got the Ithryll so maybe it gets a lot better here but so far the bosses have been sorta disappointing.

1 has genius level design to it wins out by default, but 3 also had horrible build variety.

Not to include he's the best among the three you control. The cursed one and chosen undead are both power hungry fags who chose to link the fire and yet still failed to maintain it all the while killing innocent "bosses" on the other hand the Ashen One does what is right to maintain balance in the world and even kills the big bad of them all, Pontiff Sullhyvan.

dark souls 3 was the funnest souls game, but it also butchered my play style from ds1 which was fattest guy with biggest shield. i added loads of points into str to use the big shield against abyss watchers and i got fucked sideways because shields are useless tier in this game and so is armor so i just have these useless ass stats with useless ass gear that doesnt help me

I just wish they didn't drink the Bloodborne kool-aid so hard. Vitality as a stat is worthless. Poise is not worth building for.
The entirety of combat is just rolling and using i-frames. Online interaction, with it's heavy latency, obfuscate any impressive hitboxes the game has.
It's just a poor game, a solid disappointment.

>the most linear game in the series with dude cathedrals lmao
Yeah no