Missable party members

>Missable party members

>use an underleveled character fight/stage

I felt utterly destroyed in Suikoden 5 when the credit rolls came in. So many missable party members. I had like a third.

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>vendor informs me that he "buy cloth, sell cloth, wash cloth, mend cloth... wear cloth"
>he will not buy my Rags
>will buy my blood clot and rat tail charms though'

>game starts throwing poison curing items at you

>scripted loss

inversely
>inventory filled with affliction cures
>never use a single one the entire game

>missable party members
>if you get them, they're only around for the final dungeon anyway and new game+

>new party members
>an hour left in the game

was he even good?

>scripted event that permanently kills one of your party members outta nowhere

>fuck ton of party members
>only like 2 of them are half decent
>they're the 2 most annoying ones

There is just one thing I want. And that is that every character remains the same level. That way if I want to use another character 30 hours into an RPG I can just use them

how do you feel about this in like Pokemon? Pokemon are kind of like party members.

And the equipment they're wearing is lost too

training pokemon is part of the experience, training party members is not

>game throws status/healing items at you
>there's healing spells that you get ten minutes in that invalidate them for the rest of the game

>party member joins and leaves multiple times throughout the game

>Go to the second crossroad
>Time for some roulette I guess, it is scripted after all, what can go wrong
>Proceed to lose all guys one after another

>FE:Fates Revelations
>Halfway through the game, in the second part of a two part level, Owain and Niles join my army at level "Fuck you"

For what purpose.

What if your entire group is afflicted or your healer is out of mana?

Not really. There's nothing he does that other characters don't do better. A decent single hitter + status but he only gets 3 moves even at max level which is pretty shitty.

>game has a lot of temp party members
>by the time it settles on your final party the guys you had the most often massively out level the newest member
>have to choose between having dead weight or grinding for hours

>and if you haven't minmaxed they're pretty much needed to beat the game without relying on RNG

>game randomly kills one of your party members
>it can be the main character
>story changes depending on who it killed

... why did someone photo in a gun on that pig??

done well in ff9 imo

Name 17 games that do this.

>get really good item/weapon at end of the game
>no new game +

>scripted loss
>it's not obvious at all and you waste all your items

>as observed in 0 games

>Your strongest party member becomes a boss.

There's like 2 because its really, really hard to do right.

But dungeon siege is one of them.

>Scripted loss
>You somehow manage to win
>Cutscene plays out just the same anyway

he gets a strong fire move, so he's alright for a team that's abusing oil spit. which is probably most teams

>get a new game and post about it on Sup Forums

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>New Game Plus+
>Only the MC gets to keep their stats.
>You have to buy back the MC stats.

>Insanely diffucult boss fight
>"Oh, stupid scripted loss fights."
>Let boss kill you
>GAME OVER

.....fug

>Get a rooster from the game
>pick your favorites based on what little you can get from their "most notable things done" text blurb
>Go out and powerlevel them
>lvl 10 and roided as fuck, but feeling the deaths and actual suckyness of them is kinda hard
>I mean it went from 30 to 34 in like 10 levels for its main skill
>Must be nothing wrong and the game is just challanging
>Oh shit nearly all my party died because the enemy is magically better than me in this 2 hours into the game mission
>Guess I gotta go back and get new ones
>Aw fuck they're just level 7
>All their skills are double of my old

Haha okay I guess thats fun

>it's supposed to be a tough battle but due to your grinding you beat the boss in one round
>cutscene has you eating dirt

i swear there are like 2 scripted losses EVER that i can remember, but everytime a fight doesn't go my way initially i start thinking about story reasons for why it would be a scripted death.. it never is

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>you can play the game regularly with story's companions OR make your own min/maxed, planned ahead for special items, balanced party with you have total control over it
>you will miss some story contents and won't be able to play through original companions side quests
>characters made by you are as empty as PC

lurk more faggot

>kill someone vital to the plot
>the game didn't expect you to do that
>softlocked

>completely annihilate boss
>boss BTFO of the observably universe
>cutscene after the fight shows boss dominating you, while you're struggling to stay alive

You should be punished for your failures in life.

>Late game content that is missable if you don't do a certain string of events within a fixed period of time, in a JRPG

>get a new party member.
>has a story related death in the next chapter.
>all the items/equipment you had on said party member are lost.

soft reset

name 945 games that do this LA

>game has fight scripted for you to lose
>if you win, the opponent gets mad and forces a game over by blowing up the planet

>QUICK HURRY WE'VE GOT TO GET OUT THE BUILDING IS COLLAPSING
>there's no timer of any sort
>you can take your time and loot all the treasure chests

at least draglade had a little scene between the fight and the next scene showing the chick BTFOing the lightning guy

This applies to Suikoden.

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>all the items/equipment you had on said party member are lost

To this day I will never forgive Aeris for that shit. Fuck feeling sad give me back my ribbon you cunt.

>Fe 7
>Nino is technically the best mage in the game with the best growths
>Joins at lv6 in chapter 26 out of 30

Suikoden 2, 4 and 5

ff9 excalibur ii

to some extent, saga frontier 2 does this.

>THE MAIN BAD GUY IS GONNA DESTROY THE WORLD IN A FEW MINUTES
>no timer, spend the next few hours grinding and doing side quests

>scripted loss
>win by cheating or attrition
>"you fucked up asshole"
>GAME OVER

Shut up silent storm is a perfect game faggot.

tales of symphonia does it the best.. there's a big story fight in the middle where you're meant to lose, but if you win you get some cool dialogue saying "wow, you're tough." then the final boss of the game is basically like "ok if you're tough then let's fight" and he fucking one shots everyone, it's great. then story progresses as normal.

>teammate starts out useless but becomes strong thanks to your unfailing friendship

>you have to switch to a different class to use certain weapons and abilities

>he lets the NPCs keep the reward

>RPG with a lot of side quests
>game doesn't save after completing the story so every time you start up that file, you end up in front of the final boss
>no new game+

>right near the beginning of the game you have to deal with enemies that inflict poison and you can't get antidotes until you get to the first major town

>game is a gritty depiction of real life where death is treated seriously and everyone is horrified by people dying
>kill people just for fun outside story missions and no one cares

Oh forgot to mention the encounter rate is high as fuck and you run into these type of enemies all the tme

Why can't Larsa just stay in the fucking party as a playable character?

That little bitch.

>game has 108+ recruitable characters
>can only use 6 at a time

ff9?

Suikoden is the best shit ever

Glory of Heracles

>tfw he spams xpotions

>really hard battle
>guess it must be a scripted loss, getting shit stomped in too hard
>give up
>game over
>last save is a while ago

Hello Valkryia Chronicles

How many party members constitutes a lot of party members? Should they all have combat applications or can some have purely out-of-combat functionality?

>game has a shit load of recruitable characters
>most are impossible to get

Currently playing S2. 78 characters in and i dont know what to fucking use

>boss kills my whole team in 1 hit
>"oh wow i guess it's a scripted loss"
>it fucking isnt

I bet his boipussy tastes like cotton candy

Fuck this game so much

>final boss oneshots you if you make too many mistakes/take too long to defeat him

Most of the characters you get early are good throughout the game ( Viktor , Flik ) . The rest is up to you .

>game has a shit ton of playable characters, but only 1 in 10 is actually useful

>can't kill anyone vital to the plot
HOWAAAAAAARD

I thought it was fun but the ending was terrible unless you grinded like fuck to be able to beat it.

>game has 802 recruitable characters
>can only use 6 at a time

>scripted loss
>looks like any other fight at the beginning
>10 mins and a bunch of expensive items later the boss just one shots everyone
>no refunds

>morrowind
>kill someone vital to the plot
>game tells you that you fucked up and to reload
>there are sometimes ways around killing certain essential characters

>scripted loss
>10 mins and a bunch of expensive items later the boss just one shots everyone
>"lol just kidding bro let me give you your healing items back, how many revives did you use?"

>game constantly switches out the 4th party member
>the first one is great
>everyone one after that gets proceedingly worse
>the last member joins before the last two dungeons and is massively under leveled compared to the rest of the party
>overworld has changed so grinding is a pain
>everything in the final dungeon almost one shots him

>you absolutely are an asshole

That would be acceptable

Or like in Grandia 2, if you are meant to lose the fight you can only deal 1 damage per attack.