Japanese

Has anyone here actually learned japanese to be able to play japanese games? Was it worth it?

learning a real world skill to consume entertainment is the dumbest thing you could ever do

I'm actually considering doing it because I like learning languages and all those untranslated porn games are driving me crazy.

you know the life, studying japanese, playing video games and smokin weed ya know?

it is satisfying to study for hundreds of hours and then finally reading/hearing a second language and understanding it. ignore this tard

You can't learn Japanese

Yes. Absolutely. I have really enjoyed being able to play any jap game I want.

I was studying Japanese really diligently for 3 years, then the 4th year I got lazier, and the 5th year I'm barely doing any of it.

Anyone else experience the same sort of slump? I mean, I still read, speak and hear Japanese on a daily basis to varying degrees, but I'm not studying nearly as hard as I did when I first started.

At most it's like one to three new kanji a day now.

Yes
Fuck rou and prease go back to reogaf

It's a waste of time for something so specific and essentially useless outside of video games shit anime.

consuming entertainment without ever learning a real world skill out of it is even dumber

This is bait, don't reply to this post.

>Instead of learning a real world skill that could benefit you in a field of interest you have, you should just post on Sup Forums

learning japanese was a mistake, now all i do is read shitty untranslated erogeshit

I personally learned japanese just for understanding the story of fire emblem. it's totally worth it.

This post is also bait, do not reply to this post.

I'm too lazy to learn on my own with any consistency. I've picked up a great deal since I started though, and have been to Japan twice. I'm going to take steps to get back in class and finish learning soon.

Just because you use it to consume entertainment doesn't mean that's all you can use it for. Japanese is one of the hardest languages in the world to learn. Until computer translation becomes 1:1, achieving some kind of fluency could help you get a job.

japanese has so much loanwords from english, looks like they hate their own language

I wish more people took the time to expose themselves to a bit of each others' languages through vidya intead of self-segragating and insulting other people based on the language they speak because it isn't the one they speak. Instead of slightly bettering themselves as they play video games, they just make themselves a worse person in the process.

It's really sad

t. BR

>could help you get a job

Where? Doing what? Who would you reach out to in order to find yourself in a position in which Japanese is an eye catcher on your resume?

beta testing video games, duh

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Ok I need help Sup Forums. I'm scared that I'm slowly manifesting into one of those unironic weebos that everyone makes of.

I just realised recently that most my hobbies are mostly Japanese based. I collect bonsai trees, I like cooking Japanese cuisine, I use a Santoku knife in the kitchen, I collect manga volumes and lately I've been going through my l anime backlist at an alarming rate (I have 2TB to go through) which is eating up all my free time. I'm afraid that my next step is moving to Japan and learning Japanese. If rather kill myself if I reach that point.

Learning any real world skill is never bad regardless of the motivation.

Believe it or not, a bunch of languages in your resume helps make your entry more impressive if you can sustain them.
Nip in particular being the fourth.

Starting? Nigga you already full weeb. Embrace it.

>rather kill myself if I reach that point

Nigga you collecting bonsai trees

I learned it because I was stationed in Japan for a while when I was in the military.

A few years ago it would have been useful for games but these days most games worth a shit get localized anyway. Unless you want to play obscure VNs.

I did and it was.

It's a fun hobby.

I learned Katakana by playing Super Robot Names and reverse associating the various Kana with the names of mechs and characters I knew for sure. I also can instantly recognize all kanji for the major elements, settings and common stats in RPGs so status screens auto translate in my head for me. Unless it's in Katakana though I can't read dialogue boxes and text but anything system and mechanics related I'm good to go.

I admit to being a huge fucking weeaboo and even I don't collect bonsai trees.
Who the fuck collects bonsai trees?

I've noticed that just about nothing that isn't a JRPG leaps out at me on store shelves or when I'm browsing PSN to the point where even I'm startled that I seem to have developed one dimensional taste over the last decade or so. I've kind of made it a mission to at least try one game from every other genre for the rest of the see to see if I can redevelop other tastes again.

Japanese is a very difficult language in a country notorious for having atrocious English. If you're actually good at it you'll be a valuable asset if the company does work in Asia.

I'm sure your trees alone are already more weeb than any figure I own.

Collecting is not a fun hobby.

It's not so much that they hate it as much as they realize that creating new words with their existing framework and not loan words would be as clumsy if not more than Chinese.

>Who would you reach out to in order to find yourself in a position in which Japanese is an eye catcher on your resume?

Gaijinpot.com is a major website that lists tons job opportunities for non-native Japanese speakers. The best one I saw there, and one that I'd like to gun for when I finish college is operations management at a tourism company. 6 figure salary.

Other than that, you could probably find work with any Japanese company that has branches in an English speaking country (auto companies like Honda, Nissan, etc. for example) or vice versa. Multinational American corporations with branches in Japan always want people who can speak the language. Or you could go the basic route and be a translator, but like I said in my last post, translation jobs are probably going to dry up in the next 10 or so years as computer and AI translation is constantly improving.

>Ok I need help Sup Forums. I'm scared that I'm slowly manifesting into one of those unironic weebos that everyone makes of.

>I collect bonsai trees

I thought it was a fairly "normal", its an inexpensive but rewarding hobby that takes dedication, time and patience. It's not like any of the weebs over at /jp/ owns any bonsais. It's like gardening.

yea im in year 3 at uni and ive kinda lost steam.

i think its cause we dont use it everyday and the excitement is starting to fade

Oh God, speaking of Japanese companies, I once worked for JFC's American branch. It was hell. Never working for another Japanese company again. That environment was worse than fucking concentration camp.

>I would rather kill myself that continue doing things I enjoy

...huh??? it's your life I guess...

This post is bait too.

>complains about other languages loaning words from English
Go read up on the history of the English language user, including the more recent developments.

Yeah, I studied by myself for 3 years, then went to Japan to work and live for the better of a year. Been back home for a year and I've just lost the will to study.

I still do language exchange, if that counts, but I don't really want to just sit down and do drills or flashcards or any of that.

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Looks like some couldn't resist.

Learning Japanese is not weeaboo. Shouting broken Japanese like YAMMMERROOOO is. Your choice.

What was that website some anons mentioned in the last threads? Apparently you can talk to other people in a language, and it's helpful.

Now this is a meme I can get behind.

2ch

Japan-Guide.com? You can do language exchange there.

that's where youre wrong kiddo

That's not broken Japanese.

it's not actually that weird, I've just never heard of a weeaboo collecting them, they usually stop at one

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I know katakana. Some hiragana, but I don't have all of those memorized. Also a handful of kanji, but "forest" and "mountain" aren't as useful to know as you might think.

Having a rudimentary knowledge of Japanese is a requirement to be hardcore.

>implying NANNIIIIIII!!! and YAMMMMEROOOOO!!!! are broken Japanese

I want to see a Kanji fist fight between this cunt and Mary-san.

It's ok to be a weeb as long as you're not a total dick about it.

I'm not as deep in as you are, but I'm so into Japanese shit that I'd call myself a weeaboo. I balance it out be being /fit/, dressing passably, and being able talk about more conventional hobbies and normie shit at at least a basic level. Remember, the problem isn't liking Japanese shit, it's obsessing over it and only it to the point that you're not fun to be around.

Yeah, that's one of the big problems I think I'm going to run into if I actually do become fluent use that to find a job. Working for Japanese companies seems more like slavery to Westerners because of their weird social structure and sense of duty.

Been learning for about 2.5 months now;
I finished RTK with like 85% retention according to anki and I'm just over 2000 words into a core deck. Studying for an exam and moving house at the moment so I haven't bothered with advanced grammar or reading (herp derp the most important parts), but I'll do that shortly.

How long do you reckon it'd take someone to get to the point they can read Utawarerumono or Ciel Nosurge?

Once you understand Japanese, the voice acting gets even more cringy

Pokemon with hiragana and katakana? easy

Monster Hunter with only super complicated kanji? god no. Its so densely written its impossible to read it anyway

Ive learnt a fair bit in the past 3 years, originally to play games but met a Japanese girl so now shes my main reason to study :x

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They liked me because I could speak Japanese (even though the job had nothing to do with speaking it) and chose me above all candidates. I was only there 2 and a half weeks, I was still in training, and they fired me. They said I was too slow and wasn't performing my duties. Which was bullshit, but they can fire me for whatever reason.

The management there was psychotic, and they were nazis. Honestly I'm glad I'm out.

Is this Princess Maker 6

Where'd you meet her? You sound like me, 2 years ago. Met one on Japan-Guide, we got engaged but ultimately broke it off. Now I've given up on studying.

>I balance it out be being /fit/, dressing passably, and being able talk about more conventional hobbies and normie shit at at least a basic level

Don't worry friend, that's what I'm doing at the moment, I lift and look like a regular person. Though I have to hide my power level under the covers.

Something different

>Though I have to hide my power level under the covers.

I think I pass so well as a normie that I'm trying not to hide my power level anymore. I've been casually suggesting watching anime to my friends recently. Not pushing them, but just bringing up that there's something for everyone. It helps that my friends are stoners who are easily dazzled by good and/or trippy animation and like One Punch Man, but still.

what are the origins of this meme? I always see this chick in japanese learning threads in the catalogue but ive never checked them enough to know about it

I think it's from some learning website. The original pic is of the girl with the caption saying "You can learn Japanese". Then some enterprising trolls changed the caption to "You can't learn Japanese" to fuck with people.

But what you are revealing is already normie tier or low power level tier. Degenerate high power level shit, that I'm going to take with me to the grave.

lang 8

>. Degenerate high power level shit, that I'm going to take with me to the grave

Oh well yeah. I mean I'm not going to admit to watching Boku no Pico or even Bible Black outside of the internet. I'd just like to get to the point where if I see a show that I think a friend might like, they might actually take me up on it.

have this fantasy. talking on phone in different language and people around me are thinking. wth is he saying

kys

出来ない

if you go to Japan everyone will speak to you in english regardless of how fluent in nip you are

>5 years
>one to three new kanji a day now
Have you not managed to learn all jouyou kanji by now? Or are you just talking about non-essential kanji?

>Enjoy Japanese stuff
>Learning Nipponhongopo for video games and magazines and old films

>don't give a shit about anime or weeb shit

Feels fucking good.

>Two people meet
>Englishman want to speak Japanese after all that work and practice.
>Japanese want to speak English after all that work and practice.

>implying it's not perfectly acceptable to shout YAMEROOOOOOO when a Stacy shows interest in you
It's like you're... normal....... or something...........

I learn nip the same way I did with English, by playing games made in that language. I have heard that lot of people on this board learn English this way.

>if you go to Japan everyone will speak to you in english regardless of how fluent in nip you are

haha no

I can blend in Japan and one of my favorite ways of getting rid people who try to pull you into their clubs on the streets is to speak English, they literally back away when you does that.

you can read kana games in under a year of studying half-heatedly

> ways of getting rid people who try to pull you into their clubs on the streets is to speak English, they literally back away when you does that.
Elaborate on that, tell me a story.
Let me guess Niggers

Yes and yes. Never have to wait for translations and I can get better deals for stuff since their express shipping rates aren't monstrous.

>Niggers
I started learning recently and this is how I overcome the various frustrations; because if those apes in Roppongi/Harajuku/Shinjuku managed to learn the language what the fuck does that say about me if I can't?

Yes and yes
Only took me about 4 years in college
Now I'm a full time neet enjoying the fruits of my labor by playing Jap games in the original language.
When I get tired of that I'll just commit honorable seppuku

No problemo there my dude, from Yasunari Kawabata to whatever mainstream VN that /jp/ circle jerks off to the high school tier stuff like pic related

been on this shit for what, almost 10 years now sheez

Wouldn't recommend if you're learning while older than 15, 18 is kinda pushing already

That's just like, my opinion, though

Dont you only need to learn 2200 kanji to function? Like 700 more if you care about newspaper?

Learn Japanese if you're interested in:

-cyberpunk
-lifesims
-giant robot stuff
-porn

Define "function" and "learning a kanji"
Even if a kanji is common and you're familiar with a certain number of compounds there are always hundreds more with other kanji. Even if you know all kanji in a compound the meaning of that compund might be completely obtuse.

In practice you haven't really learned a kanji perfectly until you understand any word that kanji appears in.

What's the best way to get to Japan if you're poor as fuck and your uni doesn't offer shit for Japanese, classes or exchanges and such

I have wanted to learn it but Kanji confuses the soul out of me. I know Spanish and English already and a third language doesn't sound bad, however I am not sure if I want it to be Japanese. I was also considering to learn French at one point but classes got shut down.

Can anyone recommend any games with super light Kanji it's okay if their older games.

Takeshis Challange was full hirigana so it was easy for me to understand but the game was too hard.

I'm studying Japanese but not for playing video games, what the fuck is wrong with you, its for watching anime.

>giant robot stuff
right on dudester

Summon night my man, you'll have a lot of fun if you're into SRPGs

they're also comfy as all hell

Any of the Dragon Quest games or Zelda games will have furigana. Puyo Puyo Tetris is really simple with furigana for the harder words and is god tier.