You have to watch out for pickpockets in the city...

You have to watch out for pickpockets in the city. You’d be surprised how many waterfronters earn a good Oblivion Thread that way.

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As if anybody would want to discuss such a shit game.

Good thread OP I for one would love to discuss such a great game.

As if anybody would want to discuss such a shit game.

Good thread OP I for one would love to discuss such a great game.

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I have to disagree with these two guys' eerily similar opinions, I like oblivion a lot.

I have to disagree with these two guys' eerily similar opinions, I dislike oblivion a lot.

I saw some mudcrabs by the water recently.

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Oblivion is honestly the worst elder scrolls game overall.

Oblivion is honestly the best elder scrolls game overall.

it's like I'm really in Oblivion
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tfw will never be able to run fully modded Oblivion at 60FPS no matter how good my GPU is

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Most people say Oblivion was the worst elder scrolls game but I actually like it more than skyrim.

Oblivion was a very different, light hearted, fun elder scrolls game. It wasnt as serious as the other games, and introduced a physics based combat system which was fastly superior to morrowinds infuriating dice roll system.

Destruction magic scales poorly right? Without using the spellstacking trick.

Ahhh Oblivion, my favourite out of all the elder scrolls, i-i mean Morrowind! Morrowind was my favourite I swear guys booo down with Oblivion

>most people

Who says that?

Best quests in any TES game.

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Worst quests in any TES game.

Either it's a faction issue, or calling the guards is a crime punishable by death

Oblivion dark brotherhood quest-line was best non main quest-line in TES history.

Oblivion dark brotherhood quest-line was worst non main quest-line in TES history.

>Paralyze character for 300 seconds
>Poison damage while paralyzed
>The character breaks into some sort of watery ragdoll and only then the game crashes

Good times

It was better than every single questline in skyrim.

I love how because of this, it makes the guards all look like authoritarian assholes who would kill anyone if they dare insult them.

And the musics were awful.

On the other hand, the leveling system was fantastic!

>morrowinds infuriating diceroll system
are you guys telling me that Oblivion and Skyrims systems were less infuriating? Lol wow.

I wanna ____ that statue

No, in skyrim if you hit someone the hit lands and does damage. Even on legendary difficulty skyrim wasnt very hard.

In Morrowind you could be right infront of a mob swinging like a mad man and none of the swings would hit because your weapon skill is low.

Can you please not force these shitty general threads especially on a game as divisive as Oblivion? It only attracts shitposters and peeves of people when they see the exact same OP in the exact same style as other RPG general threads. I'm reminded when SH threads were being made daily and instantly devolved to shitposting. Just let them come and go naturally.

Why keep up this lie?

Who's lying mate?

>Skyrim
>"I've never used a greatsword before, im a tiny lanky elf thief who uses daggers."
>Hitting every time
>Wow! Im Really Good at this!
>Morrowind
>"I've never used a claymore before, Im a Tiny Lanky Elf thief who uses daggers"
>Misses almost every time
>"Wow! No Wonder thieves dont use these giant things! they're heavy and hard to swing!"

Which one seems the more realistic approach to combat guys.

He's saying that, if you build your character right, you will almost never miss. Doesn't help the fact that the system is loaded to bear with fake depth like different attack styles, or that it's far too easy for either party to get staggered or stunned, leading to some fights becoming either cakewalks or nightmares as either you or your opponent are knocked around like a Weebl toy.

Your weapon skill should have no impact on your ability to hit someone. If you as a player are skilled enough to aim your swings so that they hit your enemy, then they should register and do damage.

Skills/attributes should impact the actual damage your hits do, which they do.

Its really the only way at the time they could implement a system of failing with the weapon. Sure it looks like you swung perfectly and hit the enemy but maybe you didn't swing hard enough to do damage or correctly. They didn't have the resources to make alternate animations for missing or failing swings. Its theatre of the mind my friend. Its no different than DnD.

Skyrim's because who is realisically going to miss over and over wielding and swinging a large sword.
Realism =! quality however so don't ask which is more realistic as if it means anything.

>No matter how you build you character you will still encounter tough fights

Well yeah... thats kind of how the world works.

"Now matter how good you are theres a good chance theres someone out there who's better."

The only nightmare fight that even sounds like what you've discribed is the one with Gaenor.

And of course a well trained and battle harded [insert player class here] is going to trounce most bandits they come across with extreme ease.

I know that is my point. Due to technological limitations of the time they had to implement a horrible combat system. With Oblivion they could implement a physics based combat engine which is significantly better.

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Not an argument.

To each his own I suppose. I enjoyed both systems for different reasons. I enjoyed Morrowind being DnD-esque (in more ways than just combat: the quests, maps and social interactions and whatnot) and I also enjoyed the Oblivion system. I don't think either are shit as they both fit in well with the games as a whole.

That's not at all what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that getting yourself up to the point where you can consistently hit things is trivial, but people inexplicably ignore the part where after that happens, fights become either far too easy or else unacceptably difficult, usually because the vast majority of the enemy's hits stagger you instead of any satisfying difficulty.

I'd like to remind everyone that Morrowind was released in 2002. That's the same year as Summoner 2, one year after King's Field 4, and THREE years after System Shock 2. Better systems were in place for some time, this is almost entirely just an issue with Bethesda being shaky with Gamebryo and having outdated ideas about game design.

>If you as a player are skilled enough to aim your swings so that they hit your enemy, then they should register and do damage.
>TES
>Skill
>Aim

You are waving damage stick at giant near immobile hitboxes in all of the games.

I fucking loved getting to name your class.

>weapon skill shouldnt impact your ability to hit someone

Alright. Lets toss you into a battle with a knight.

You both have suits of platemail on, a sword and a shield.

You have no experience swinging a sword at all.

The knight gives you one free swing.

What are the chances you will even get a hit on this knight before he lops your head off.

>whos going to miss over and over swinging a large sword

Someone who is used to small blades and quickly stabbing their oppontent like an assassin or theif. A large cumbersome weapon on a weak armed theif who is used to dashing in and out of combat would be extremely awkward to swing, the opponent would be able to predict, get out of the way, and counter attack.

You guys are fucking idiots.

Do you fight in 1st or 3rd person mode?

One free swing? I could easily land that. The problem would be that I would not be used to the impact, or I wouldn't know how to swing it, so I wouldn't be able to hit him nearly as hard as I could

I am not playing as "me", I am playing as an actual warrior. And if i was fighting an actual knight, and he were standing infront of me which he would be in TES, and I swung at him and he didnt move, which he wouldnt in TES, then I would hit him.

chances are you would hit his shield and not him.. As he is a Knight, Knows his class well, and knows how to fight effectively in his class.

>This thread started out as an oblivion thread

>It has devolved into another Skyrim VS Morrowind thread with faggots on either side bitching about the other.

>Mfw noone has been complaining about anything in oblivion

Most of what you can complain about with Oblivion has already been stated dozens upon dozens of times before. Morrowind is still a golden calf to some people and Skyrim is still The Enemy to them (and vice versa to Skyrim fans), so discussion stays heated.

I saw a mudcrab the other day

>Morrowind is still a golden calf to some people and Skyrim is still The Enemy
skyrim was an improvement over oblivion

glad we can all agree Anvil is the best city to live in

true, it removed those cancerous adventure quests and replaced them with the essential ES experience - draugr dungeons up the ass. And let's not forget the annoying parts like "having to do stuff to get into guilds"

Fuck all this skyrim vs morrowind shit

post Oblivion screenshots

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>Totally not an undercover Guardsmen

So... How about we talk about our biggest bounties?

I'm not a criminal scum though

I haven't been caught yet for any of my crimes

>I am playing as an actual warrior

Not if your weapon skill is shit.

Probably a 100k+.
Once you hit a certain point it never stops.

in that case he would have blocked
which is not due to the character's/player's lack of skill
They still hit the knight

FILTHY pickpocket- pickPOCKET

NI NI NI NI NI NI NI NI NI NI NI

The area outside Anvil is literally the most comfy area in any game

It never feels right having these sort of threads for anything other than NV, Morrowind or VtMB

Why? Are they not not RPGCodex circlejerky enough for you?

pretty much yeah. when you have these threads with Oblivion there's much more shit flinging getting in the way of actual discussion

with NV you get the typical faction discourse but that's part of what makes the game great

Oblivion doesn't have any good waifus though.

>Dar-Ma

Say that shit to my face IRL motherfucker

What are you, retarded? sweaty wario bowser fingerplay rule34

>sweaty wario bowser fingerplay rule34
excuse me

I want to install graphic mods, but I'm so nostalgic for how it looks that I feel hesitant.

>Homeless beggar suddenly joins the battle armed with a daedric battle axe

Oblivion is like the DSP of videogames
At first you hate it, but then it's awfulness grows on you and you genuinely like it's shittyness

Voice acting in RPGs was a mistake.

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Why care about graphics? Game looks fine as it is.

>sweaty wario bowser fingerplay rule34

im sorry what?

>sweaty wario bowser fingerplay rule34

Morrowind is my personal favorite but I've been playing Oblivion again for the first time in years and it's really comfortable going from Morrowind's harsh landscapes to Cyrodiil's colorful fields and forests.

>Sweaty wario bowser fingerplay rule34

That paralyze spell alone costs 2000+ mana, user; probably double with poison damage. So you either cheated up your mana with the console, or you're lying... you wouldn't lie on the internet would you?

Shit thread for the shittiest """RPG""" ever published.

I cant say for oblivion but there was a glitch in morrowind where if you had a spell cast enough mana it would roll back over and reset. Allowing super fucking rich fucks that probably added a fuckload of money via console to make insane spells.

Plus poison isnt an magic effect in oblivion. he probably used a knife.

don't you have your daily thread to be pushing

>sweaty wario bowser fingerplay rule 34

So are we just going to ignore this?

Same, just recently finished a Morrowind playthrough and jumping to Oblivion is a refreshing change from the overall serious atmosphere of Vvardenfell.

I honestly can't bring myself to hate Oblivion, it got a B-movie vibe going on of "so bad it's good"

>sweaty wario bowser fingerplay
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>tfw you hit ctrl v and its not in the search bar

what

>What are you, retarded?
No. Why do you ask?

im dying

Have you heard of the High Elves?
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I don't recall any quest in skyrim as good as the dark brotherhood one in oblivion where you have to kill everyone at some sort of party in a locked house.

What did he mean by this?