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Is the combat in Horizon ZD as shit as the one in the Witcher 3?

a little bit better, not much though

Combat is very nice and the controls are perfect

No comparison to the shit that is Witcher 3

The game is basically great where Witcher was bad and bad where Witcher was great

SFM porn when?

>Great where witcher was bad, bad where witcher was great
Woo, spookily accurate assessment.

Just finished up platinum trophy on Horizon. I rather agree with what you said.

Have a
>Nox
for your troubles

Why didn't the poles have Geralt hi-5 Link?

Why do the Jews fear the samurai so much?

yep

Because CDPR knows how bad the new Zelda is.

>Just finished up platinum trophy on Horizon
>The game came out in a week or so
I believe in god now

Worse by a long shot, anyone saying otherwise is an obvious shill. Every single stream of it looks like fucking garbage.

The trophies are relatively easy desu

I didn't care about trophies at all and have 85% after my first run, and I got done 2 days ago

I only know it as a meme, but ive heard a great deal of people say that ps exclusives are intentionally very easy to platinum. I mean it arguably makes sense but its more weird than anything.

They are pretty linear (the exclusives) so I guess the devs can't get creative to come up with original trophies

Is it true that it does full-on SJW stuff?

Also why are the facial animations so off?

Yes and no

You have three tribes, one is the Nora tribe and they are completely multicultural and led by three matriarchs (black, white (your only friend) and asian woman. The game consistently makes fun of them and shows them as religious zealots. Then there are the Karja who consist of Whites, Latinos and Asians in general. They are the empire in the game. The Shadow Karja are Kangs and Arabs and your enemies. I think the Oseram are the only pure white tribe. You work together with white males most of the time. All black women are nice to Aloy and want to be her friend, there is only one white woman who is nice to her. There are hardly any blond people in this game, which is weird considering they backed up the entire genepool. The black guy who helps you will be the main antagonist in the next game. I would say there is some SJW stuff but you can generally look over it, apart from that Muslim scientist, that had me raging.

>witcher 3 combat
>shit
Learn to parry and counter my man. Dodge more, roll less.

not always true
uncharted 1-4 and the last of us have some pretty hard lists that require a lot of effort to plat, despite being the most linear of sony exclusives

It's better than any of their games

Quite a bit better than W3. Still gets repetitive though

The saving grace are the destructable machine parts / caster weapons. Stealth is as boring as you can probably guess

also it's usually the non linear open world games with the easiest plats
horizon, far cry 4, final fantasy xv, all have list that are easy, just play the game and shit will unlock naturally. low effort

Isn't that better? Play the game and trophies just unlock? Unless of course there are secrets or something.

I hate linear games making extra stuff up for trophies just to have players unnaturally prolong their time on that certain game.

>batman vision
>dialogues that drag on and on
>cutscenes
>monster hunting
>special potions that make you better
>mount follows the road automatically
>plant collecting
>more plant collecting
>large vibrant cities full of life
>tough, no bullshit protagonist

This game is literally witcher but for girls.

It's actually really fun but the average vee shitter hasn't even played the game so you'll only get doorpost responses

Geralt of Rivia likes to watch

>talking about "looks" when we are asking about how it "plays"

If this is the only Aloy R34 we get I'll be rather disappointed

Combat is better, graphics are marginally better, animations, characters, story, and dialogue are all worse. Animations are particularly horrendous

It surprised me indeed that Aloy even get some rule34, the character is not atractive at all.

it's still shit even if you learn how to dodge and parry. It just feels awful.

>combat is better
It's literally the same old combat as usual.

Her facial aesthetics are average at absolute worst.

That's entirely subjective. Not everyone is attracted to alien faces

Nah you just suck at the game. You probably could'n get past fighting olgierd 1st time.

Different user, I got to Nithral and beat him without taking damage. The combat is fucking stupid. You don't have to parry anything and dodging isn't making it good, either. You're welcome to do those things and congratulations for handicapping yourself so that your Grunty Uncle looks cool, but it's far from necessary.

Thats because you played it on the easiest mode, spammed axii & bombs, casual

I did none of the above. But good job demonstrating how easy it is to spam the combat system. It's a lot better to have fangirls like you say it.

>That's entirely subjective. Not everyone is attracted to alien faces

The Wiitcher girls are far more atractive than Aloy. Art direction is bland, as the main character.

Keep on calling it shit when it's not, casual.

Keep calling it shit when it is, fangirl.

Yeah because its easy to teach dumbasses like you who act like a caveman on hack & slash games

Nice I bet you never even played the game and just decided to call it shit because you cant afford it. Lol, you know nothing

You're actually proving my point for me: If I'm such a dumbass and I can still succeed at the game you're fervently defending, doesn't that make the game shit?

>I bet you never even played the game
Reading's not this hard, unless you're a Witcher fan.

>I hate linear games making extra stuff up for trophies just to have players unnaturally prolong their time on that certain game.
>Shoot the leg of a certain enemy type 500 times
>Said enemies only appear in one area in the game
I'm exaggerating, but this is how most of filler achievements are.

Maybe video games aren't for you.

No you never even provided a video of doing those things you mentioned on the highest difficulty and just here to talk shit.

You know its funny the most common type of praise both TW3 and HZD get is about their graphics

Coincidence?

Talking shit online makes you feel big time when you're not. You fucking liar

Witcher has a 1000x better writing and characters.

Casuals bring in more money than frequent gamers, its a no brainer

Not a coincidence at all.

It really sounds like you're having the majority of this conversation in your head. You've assumed how I played it, then assumed how I played it and now you've assumed the goalpost you would accept.

>makes you feel big time
Why would I feel big time for doing decently at a garbage game? I'll fill it in for you two: I beat him because he doesn't aggro at all unless you're just inside of crossbow range. A boss does not automatically target you even if you attack him.

its even worse

Says weebs and cucks, mostly.

Her facial structure is fairly average, and her body is tight as shit. You'd have to be in serious consideration for homosexuality to think she's not attractive in the least.

No way, olgierd would just block your sword attacks, bombs & crossbows dont do much damage unless you have alchemy build.

You still bought, the game.

>You still bought, the game.
No I didn't.

>olgierd
I never told you it was this boss, are Witcher fans always this retarded? Stop being mad and learn to read.

buddy, you have NO IDEA what you can find in r34... AND THANK GOD FOR THAT.

pretty much everything about her is average at best

its a boring character design t.b.h

Im retarded? It was clear I was referencing to olgierd and you jump in claiming Nithral is piss easy, of course he is. You are the clear retard who doesnt even know how to read the argument.

You just like to talk shit on game you never bought. Piss off

>Im retarded
Yes.

>You just like to talk shit on game you never bought
Why are you so hung up on whether or not I bought it? Does putting money on the counter make the game good?

>you jump in claiming Nithral is piss easy
I started the argument by saying that. That's not jumping in.

>You are the clear retard who doesnt even know how to read the argument.
Projection.

Yeah your'e the retard who talks shit on a game he never even bought.

Not gonna reply to your petty trolling. As if changing the subject will save your weak ass. You sir are an absolute scrub.

>Not gonna reply to your petty trolling
Your reaction is not my intent, I'd much rather talk to someone who is able to read and isn't going to belligerently assume things that nobody told them to get mad at.

>Not gonna reply

>The game is basically great where Witcher was bad and bad where Witcher was great

Yeah, I'd say that pretty much sums it up.

Never played horizon, but I will make an apology for the witcher's combat system. Seems to me most people here criticize it as being simplistic and spammable. And yeah, it is. Open world games with deep and complex combat systems are hard if not impossible to come by. The goal of the combat system in a game with such a huge world as the witcher is twofold. 1: to be satisfying, look, and feel cool. To be animated decently (most of the time) generally to convey what is happening clearly. 2: to not be noticed as a major problem because of the inherent impossibility of the concept of a detailed combat system in an open world game. The witcher is a game about characters, writing, world and lore building. It isn't a game about combos, upgrades, counters, &c. That it has elements to increase the complexity of the simple things it does is positive. Blade oils, signs, potions, preperation, traps, bombs, crossbows, the two types of swords: all of these are unnecessary flourishes that add impact if not amazing depth to a combat system that cannot be deep by the nature of the game it is in. If you want a combat system of enormous depth, you have to at some point constrain your worldbuilding, lore writing, monster concept book, &c &c. It's easy to do this wrong: skyrim with anemic animations and a huge empty world of samey dungeons and poorly textured mountains. A deep world is created at the cost of a safe, inoffensive, and basically fun combat system (hitting things produces satisfying rumbles in the controller at the right time, animation is fluid, enemies don't scale with level in each area). If you compare it to other games arbitrarily of course it's less deep, but the comparison you draw is ultimately meaningless because most games with deep combat are very unlike the witcher.

>tl;dr they're not trying to not suck
There, that's all it takes.

I dunno I think the point I made is more akin to: they're trying very hard to not suck in a system of making games that restricts what they can do massively.

>You can't have good combat in an open world game
Then what the fuck is Dragon's Dogma

An open world that is significantly smaller and less detailed than the witcher that focuses on a mechanical rather than worldbuilding aspect of gameplay rather than a character driven story in a significantly larger, more detailed world?

It's not worse than the witcher, or better. It has different goals and different concepts. Note that I also never said an open world with good combat is impossible, just that major compromises must be made elsewhere. Player choice, dialogue systems, interactivity and scale of the game world are what you sacrifice for a mechanically detailed system.

good open world dragon dogma
ok

>can't have a good combat in an open world game

Dark Souls, ever heard of it?

The combat in Horizon is pretty good and it's nothing like TW3. It's very dynamic and forces you to constantly be on the move, as well as utilizing traps and the rest of your weaponry. It's one of the most satisfying combat systems I've seen. Don't let any memesters tell you otherwise.