>WE, the weaboos, DEMAND you give us JAPANESE LANGUAGE. The true, most faithful, original and how it was intended language. Japanese audio or fuck off! 2 minutes later >WHHHAAAATTT? what do you mean there are no english subs? How will I understand japanese then?
Every fucking time
Do not even bother posting here unless you speak japanese.
Bonus points: Faggots who dont realize the EN sub for the jap audio and the shitty EN localization is more often than not the same one, but they think they are reading a faithful translation
I'm currently trying to learn Japanese with this book
Kayden Harris
Voice acting is a bad meme
William Price
Speaking and reading a language are 2 different things, especially for people wanting to learn Japanese.
Also Japanese VA elitist are cancer to society.
Aiden Torres
Is it useful?
John Adams
Speaking of untranslated shit, what was the name of that one CRPG that was untranslated when it was released in Japan, so the game came with a Japanese strategy guide?
Christian Gutierrez
>japanese voiceover kiryu: stop >american pig dubbing kiryu: wait a second you fucking retard whats wrong with americans? why do they have to destroy everything with their stupid faggot aggressive hamburger language? beautiful calm japanese language doesnt deserve such shitty treatment! OG jap voice or dont bother porting games at all you fucking gaijins!
Kevin Scott
Because translating every single form of やめ as "stop" loses character
Bentley Walker
So when are you passing N2, OP?
Henry Thomas
>progressive edition fucking sjws ruined this localization dont buy this reeeeee
In all seriousness though I'm learning through the GENKI books in class. Having fun, although I'm only in the second semester. Somehow managed to scoot by basically without studying aside from doing the homework
Carson Turner
then how are you going to explain this scene? in japanese version of game goes through the door like normal human being instead of kicking it out
Logan Wood
US Army should have make Japanese people write in roman alphabet after WWII.
You know I'm right.
Zachary Brooks
First thing it tells ya is to go live in Japan with the book.
Elijah Martin
Look into ようこそ、very good too.
Jonathan Williams
>there will never be a global standard alphabet Honestly, it would just make everyone's life easier
David Flores
>Anything space related >Earth acting as unified Guess that's why they call it sci-fi.
The funny thing is to know who was the first kid who was 100% fluent in esperanto.
Jackson Diaz
Once you kick open a door once it becomes the only way you will ever want to open a door
Jaxon Morris
Oh yeah fuck it's like anyone who takes up learning a language as a hobby can just fuck off to live in another country. Forget work, visas, inability to integrate with society doe to a massive language and cultural barrier, costs to set up and all that. Just do it dude lmao
Robert Sullivan
I'm only at Lesson 3 so far, but I would say yeah. I'm mostly focusing on reading/writing Hiragana for now. Once I'm confident enough I'll get into vocabulary. Though some common phrases it teaches are easily memorized
Carson Scott
George Soros was right?
Caleb Rivera
Considering the massive progress globalisation managed to achieve towards destroying all of the world's cultures and turning them into one homogenised blob just over the past single decade, I'd hardly cosnider it that far off.
Gabriel Stewart
I thought it was pretty common knowledge that if you have no idea what they're saying, a 5/10 voice acting can be disguised as at least 7/10 voice acting
Hudson Jackson
>The true, most faithful, original and how it was intended language.
I don't know why others do it but I usually prefer/wish for japanese audio because dubs are more often than not fucking atrocious in quality, like they picked up random people off the street and handed them a piece of paper to read without any direction.
>but what if the jap va is terrible too and you just can't tell?
That's the point, I don't care if it's good jap va, bad jap va, or platypus mating calls. It's all white noise to me, and that's often preferable than listening to shoestring budget english dubs.
Jayden Robinson
do you watch movies dubbed? do you only listen to english music? of course you do, you're amerifat
Justin Edwards
>I don't know why others do it but I usually prefer/wish for japanese audio because dubs are more often than not fucking atrocious in quality This. I just can't stand English dubs because the voice actors go full retard with the way they inflect their speech, almost like they're told like they have to voice it like it's Dora the Explorer or some shit.
Grayson Sullivan
can you pirate this shit?
Jose Perry
I haven't gotten the book, but I just recently started learning Japanese and the author's Youtube videos have been really helpful.
Levi Ramirez
Do you people also watch Der Untergang (Downfall) dubbed?
Doing that is a worse crime against humanity than anything depicted in the movie itself tbqhwy.
Zachary Wood
JP with JP subs master race
Bentley Fisher
I like to play with English dubs AND subs
Benjamin Allen
I listen to amateur dubs of Sigur Ros songs (dub on top of original audio) because who the fuck listens to music they can't understand?
Thomas Walker
I speak Japanese Ja nai means not
Jacob Reed
Holy shit I hate it when they do that.
>itadakimasu >through the dark lord, amen
Nathan Peterson
How's Genki, my dudes?
Oliver Howard
You will never learn japanese
Jayden Turner
Wait, which game was this?
Jonathan Gutierrez
Not a game.
Gabriel Dropout, an anime running this season.
Brody Phillips
Oh, that show. I found the subs kind of funny as a joke sub, but I dropped it because I could watch better things.
What kind of deal did she make?
Carson Butler
If you didn't want meme subs why did you download them?
Thomas Sanders
...
Jason Rogers
Because fansub are dead since Crunchy garbage became mainstream? Fuck all of you normalfags for supporting this shit.
Kevin Harris
not hard to be honest, especially Japan >apply for job there >move there for a gap year >spend year drinking, sightseeing, learning language and trying cool shit while making bank >move back with conversational Japanese a year later to your normal job and life
Not to mention Japanese is a pretty easy language to learn too. Just talk to people at work and in bars and you'll be fine in 6months without really studying anything.
Honestly, the hardest part of learning Japanese is learning to get away from the です ます crap that no-one actually really uses and trying to get a hang of colloquial Japanese.
Blake Davis
>apply for job there Not everyone is American and therefore eligible to be an "English teacher" leech though.
James Perry
to add, Hiragana takes a couple hours to learn. Katakana about the same, but a couple like シ ツ ソ ン you'll mix up from time to time for a few months.
And honestly, reading/writing Japanese not that useful for the most part. You'll gradually learn probably ~2-300 kanji just living there for a while, maybe upwards 500 if you use a flashcard app on your phone or something. But you dont really need to be able to read in that country.
Ayden Garcia
lol you what? I'm Aussie and been living here 12 years. There are heaps of people from the Phillipines, Brazil, Europe. I even knew an English teacher from Scotland there that no-one could understand, it was pretty hilarious.
Unless you're from Poo In Loo or something and have a degree anyone can live there.
Bentley Gutierrez
Which subs aren't meme subs?
Brayden Bailey
>thank you for the food
Thats what I want.
Joshua Phillips
Fits the character though, right?
Alexander Walker
passed Nouryoku so i can speak on general level. I hate reading though.
Owen Powell
>4kids
Caleb Watson
YOU BETTER DO YOUR FUCKING WORK
Bentley Stewart
>when the translation is spot on
Andrew Peterson
仕方ない
Kayden Sanchez
>by the time you're dead at least 50% of the world will be fluent in english and not being able to speak and write it perfectly will be the same as being a country bumpkin
Can't wait, fuck nationalism and fuck shitty cultures.
Brayden Brooks
kek
Parker Smith
Hello Georgy boy,how's the BLM thing going?
Brayden Evans
愚かな外国人
Connor Sanchez
Can people explain to me why you would want to learn japanese? Being able to play untranslated games and other weebshit is cool and all, but wouldn't you rather spend that time and effort learning a language that will actually help you in life?
Instead you chose to learn an overly complicated language that is only used on a single island and is only spoken by 125 million people
Owen Brooks
Lingua Francas come and go at will. Your father was taught Russian because that got you around in the majority of the world whereas it is absolutely useless nowadays. Your children (>implying) might end up having to learn Cantonese for all we know.
Kevin Stewart
>but wouldn't you rather spend that time and effort learning a language that will actually help you in life? Such as?
Elijah Bennett
Vidya is my main hobby, and localization is fucking awful. It changes stories and changes characters.
I already speak english, which is enough for getting by in business relations in most of the relevant world.
Landon Roberts
Love
Benjamin Flores
Hirajuana is a pretty dank language.
Aiden Green
それは楽しいです!
Ethan Thomas
Are you assuming that they couldn't use it for translation jobs, or even working in Japan or with Japanese companies? Not everyone wants to be a career grocery store clerk.
Anthony Lopez
Just got my N2 certificate in the mail, shooting for N1 this year. This will be my third year of independent study. Currently playing Breath of the Wild, Higurashi act 1 and Daigyakuten Saiban in Japanese. /blog
John Reyes
For the same reason I learned English. I haven't spoken to a native in person and all it has been good for is watching movies before they get subtitled, understanding games and navigating the English websites.
Likewise, learning Japanese would most likely hold no real use outside of playing their games (that rarely get a translation), watching cartoons without having to wait for shitty subtitles and possibly visting Asian portion of the web where almost no one speaks English, anyway.
Landon Evans
I know it's hard for retarded american like you to understand but for Europe it's pretty much normal to know 5 languages fluent while you are an EOP and complain about every little thing.
Christopher Hall
>for Europe it's pretty much normal to know 5 languages fluent
If you're swiss, maybe
And even then, not fluent
Isaac Ward
I heard that there is no way for non-native to find a job teaching English in Japan, but I heard that on Sup Forums and another Internet place of questionable reputation so what do I know.
Do you think a non-native with English BA has a chance? I'm Polish, with Danish mother but >tfw no one wants to learn Polish >tfw no one wants to learn Danish
tell me what does the moon runes on my pic mean
Liam Turner
>2048 >first meeting of the first unified governent of Obamearth, the new name for the 3rd planet of the Sol system, named for the hero that slew Emperor Trump during his 4th inauguration ceremony >deciding on the official language of the entire planet >english is right out because of white privilege >eastern languages are no good because it's a tuesday and asians are just as bad as whites until the next full moon when they'll be an opressed minority again >german has too many nazi implications >as does any romance language >finally comes down to 2 choices >that african clicking language narrowly beats arabic by 2 votes
This is the future liberals want
James Kelly
I meant this guy
Alexander Brooks
Depends on where you live, of course. People living on the borders usually speak 3 languages easily (English, as well as the langugaes of the two countries that share border there).
Take Slovakia-Hungarian border, for instance. People there natively speak both Slovak and Hungarian. And since they speak Slovak, they are almost assuredly fluent in Czech as well. English is a must in today's world.
That's 4 languages out of the blue, 3 of which are basically native-level. Compulsory education throws in another one for good measure so they realistically speak 5 languages without even living in a country that can't decide on its own language.
Levi Long
Scandis tend to be fluent in a lot of languages but that's because they are very similiar.
Jaxon Jones
It basically means "to be continued" when used like that.
Cameron Campbell
My friends brother went to Japan to teach English without speaking a worday of nip and he got married there.
His last name is now Nakamoto-Thompson
Grayson Adams
_______ foreigner?
Joseph Lewis
つづく = Tsudzuku
It's often used as "To be continued" in cartoons.
Christian Gomez
anime is more important that anything you can do with any other language.
it's total trash, of course, but yurop is so irrelevant that more accurate characterization in your loli pantsu cartoons is more useful than everything that happens in every yuro nation.
chinese or russian might be useful when they take over, but we don't know which one yet
Jose Jackson
>tell me what does the moon runes on my pic mean
To be continued...
Hudson Jackson
Japs have large global businesses, and research facilities, you'll find more use with Japanese in the world than most tiny Yurop nations.
Noah Nguyen
every japanese game would be better without voice acting except for fighting and rhythm games
all it does is make the games more linear because nobody is going to bother paying a seiyuu a ton of money to record content that not everyone is going to see
it also lets people get away with making bad games because they know idol shiteaters will buy it anyway because person they like is in it. that 7th dragon game is a great example of this, game is a generic wizardry dungeon crawler clone that would've been passed up entirely if it didn't have the advertising of LOOK AT ALL THESE FAMOUS SEIYUU YOU CAN HAVE TO VOICE YOUR PARTY MEMBERS.
fucking disgusting
Easton Turner
If it's animated in Japanese it will look weird in English unless they re animate everything, which they rarely do. They are free to make the game worse by wasting money on hiring english voice actors while removing the japanese audio, but don't expect me to buy the game.
>no english subs Never happened, you're an idiot for thinking it did.
Kevin Parker
I started learning Japanese with really no goals in mind. I imagined I'd be reading VNs and untranslated games while scoffing at the peasants who were too lazy and unmotivated to take the time to learn it. I spent 2 years of daily study, averaging 6 hours each day. Some days I'd have 14 hours of study.
All that studying can really eat at you. I started to lose interest fast. I stopped doing those long stretches of VN reading practice and actually started playing video games again. 5 minutes of reading, 30 minutes of gameplay. 2 minutes of reading 30 minutes of gameplay. Things started to feel a bit better, but it didn't help. I had come to the realization that I had no interest in reading as a hobby. I didn't like reading English books, why did I assume I'd enjoy reading Japanese books as long as they had some pictures and basic background music accompanying it?
I have no interest in getting back into it knowing thousands of more hours of reading is required for fluency. I can't even enjoy cute little manga that I can understand without using a dictionary. I have no interest in translating. No interest in moving to Japan. No interest in conversing with people.
If you're learning Japanese soley for video games, you're most likely going to be very disappointed.
I hope you enjoyed my blog.
Dylan Johnson
>What you want >Japanese subtitles So just download Jap subs you fucking idiot
Andrew Hernandez
I wouldn't mind learning French to check out their animated works. Plus, I think it sounds kind of nice.
Xavier Torres
Most people don't live on the border.
And being a scandi myself, it's not a case of being fluent, it's a case of the languages being so similar you can understand eachother while only speaking one of them. I can hold conversations with danes and norwegians just fine, but I can't speak either.
Mason Rivera
As a translator this ticked me off immediately. I understand the concept of localizing but going out of your way to translate a common phrase that even casual Japanese language enthusiasts like weebs know as something completely different from the norm is unacceptable. いただきます is "Thanks for the food" in every dimension of this universe and should be kept as such, being a translation hipster is one of the worst things you can plague your audience with. Please do not support Crunchyroll, they have been putting out monkey typewriter quality translations for a good three to four years now and it's honestly baffling how nobody has any shred of self-respect over there that they put out such low quality work all the time. I sincerely hope they all end up unemployed, there's no need for incompetence in an industry where quality is key, even for something as petty (if you will) as anime or manga. Tasteless and disgraceful.
David Perez
のう
Levi Ross
In a perfect world you'd be judged by your skills, but we live in an imperfect world and you're white so that works out too.
As long as you can speak with an english or american accent and are white enough they won't care either way.
Ryan Fisher
What sources did you use? Anything you can recommend?
Brayden Watson
I'd like to learn it just because I want to.
I think I'd actually be disappointed in myself if I learned something like Spanish over something that I actually have an interest in learning.
That said, I have no idea how to even start learning it.
Jordan Miller
Are there any video games that are easy to learn Japanese with? I'm not a native English speaker but one of the ways I managed to pick up English so easily at a young age was through video games, so I wonder if I could try to do the same thing with Japanese.
Josiah Morales
>のう I get the meme but I hope you understand you left me genuinely confused.
That doesn't really make sense in the context and I had to verbalize it to get what you were saying.
Jeremiah Barnes
>but wouldn't you rather spend that time and effort learning a language that will actually help you in life? This is such a fucking stupid statement it's baffling. I live in a country where I speak my native language and I already speak the Lingua Franca of the entire civilised world. What do you suggest? "Chinese cuz most speakers in wurld lol"? Why would I force myself to learn a language I don't give the slightest shit about and don't need over one I have some interest in as a hobby? What's with these Sup Forums retards always spewing this don't do anything in your life that isn't 100% pragmatical" which is hilariously ironic coming from a video games board?
Lincoln Kelly
How did they translate it? Something like bon appetit?
David Nguyen
>but wouldn't you rather spend that time and effort learning a language that will actually help you in life? Where your career goes in the future could end up being based on the languages you know. I already know Spanish and English, plus a little Portuguese, and don't went to spend my life on the US/Mexican border. Or worse, in Brazil.
Plus there's the added benefit of being able to shitpost on 2chan and play vidya or read manga that the normie-tier weebs have to wait months or years to enjoy.
Benjamin Mitchell
Literally any fucking mainstream game.
Don't forget that most game are intended to be played by children and teenagers.
Jack Ross
>Tsudzuku
i'm just starting to learn hiragana so this might be a dumb question, but why is the romaji so inconsistent for some kana? Like, what i learned that would be tuduku. is it just imperfect romanization?