So... all I do in this game is just choosing different ways for the AI to do everything for me?

So... all I do in this game is just choosing different ways for the AI to do everything for me?

How the fuck is this supposed to be enjoyable or engaging?

One reason

>Playing a game for gameplay instead of story
Not Sqaure's fault you have shit taste. God you anons are pathetic. If you need me I'm going to play uncharted 4 on easy with my physically attractive girlfriend.

Master the Sentinel

You basically win the game.

>FFXIII
>story

Still better than 6 though

>How the fuck is this supposed to be enjoyable or engaging?
Who said it was supposed to be? You're playing a SE game.

Once you get decently into the game, the combat opens up enough that it starts to click. You'll end up switching paradigms constantly for specific purposes. Mostly the game revolves around the stagger bar, using buffs and debuffs, and occasionally the other paradigms.

I actually kind of like the combat, and I didn't hate the game despite the amount of shit it gets. It's a very poor Final Fantasy game, but it holds up as a decent RPG (with impressive production values for the time) on its own.

Oh, so that's how it is then.

I can't believe I was tricked into playing FF.

>once you get decently into the game

You mean once you get near the end of the game, right?

i liked the paradigm system, it's a nice middle road between how FF12 let you automatize everything in order to have a real time battle system and forcing the player to actualy paying attention like in a turn based one

i don't understand why everyone complain about how FF13 plays itself but when FF12 does it, it's fine despite the fact that FF12 is even more automated

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Nah, VI had actual character development and a villain that's actually menacing for once.

A bland, shallow excuse for a protagonist with one of the least impressive bodies of any FF girl?

Even Vanille is a better reason to stick it out. But still not enough.

XIII is trash.

I'm so sorry, user.

explain.

But ff13 has one of the best combat systems. The story is pretty shit.

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I mean if you want encounters to laat 3 million years sure

It plays itself harder than a 3D Sonic game, and people love those games.

Good use of sentinels makes fights quicker because you have to spend far less time on healing.

FFXII at least was intelligent enough to let you program how the allied AI is going to work. XIII's Medic AI is fucking stupid, it doesn't give priority to the party leader even though the leader's death means a Game Over, and it also never fucking uses Raise ever, I always have to waste a Phoenix Down to revive a KO'd character because of this.

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Best parties are stacked teams. 3 Rav, 3 Com, 3 Healer is what I went with. Shit builds up so fast.

can you beat the ff13 2 final boss without grinding a bunch? I had minimal problems with any boss before him.

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Honestly, all I've been doing so far is just making Commando and Ravager formations and switching to both characters being Medics when necessary.

Haven't had any problem dealing with enemies using only that strategy, and I just beat a boss with Lightning and Hope.

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As much as I like how they made a new take on the battle system I kinda hate the fact that you have to finish fights within a time limit to get a high drop rate. It kinda makes the game trivial especially how battle sequences are well known in the franchise. There's no satisfaction in defeating bosses because you're penalized for taking your time in fighting it.

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FF is baby's first RPG. Even western RPG's are better than that garbage.

>talk to some people about vidya
>this game comes up as a topic
>1 guy said he didn't like it and how flawed the game play is
>1 girl got really defensive about it
>l mention how I liked the music, graphics, and Sazh
>girl says "YEAH, and the stories good" and some other things, making it seem like I agree with her when that's not even my opinion.

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So, what exactly is the more adult RPG?

neptunia series

you need to use rythmic timing to really master the system. and if you don't master it the last ceith stone will wreck your shit.

if you can get past the solo bosses, probably. I did it with no monster but once I was maxed out. caius vs sarah is probably the hardest battle not in colluseum or DLC.

>I don't like this game waa
don't play it then stupid.

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This looks like a Vita game now.

That would make sense if FF13 didn't have one of the most retarded stories in any video game ever

I feel like everyone used the weapon that scales with fragments but you have to use guides to find all those.

In FFXII you can customize what your party members do instead of just letting the AI pick from a series of commands and you can take control of them if you need to.

I did, but I also got plat...

slot machine is by far the most annoying fragment, that and the quizes that have inworld trivia you cannot possibly know.

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I got the Platinum for this game in a 38 hour playthrough.
It was my second time through the game, and I used a guide for upgrading shit.
This game is barely fun and it doesn't really get good until the crystal missions.
5 starring every fight isn't even difficult.
This game would be better if it had a hard mode.

I always thought it was the opposite, the combat seemed interesting when the parties had only two members and each of them had specific roles. You'd have to adapt to these specific roles and build your strategy around them.

When the game allowed me to form three character parties and gave any role to all of them, most of my battles amounted to: COM/RAV/RAV to Stagger and damage, SEN/SEN/MED to tank stronger attacks that get telegraphed, and MED/MED/MED if I took too much damage. Rarely did I have to use SYN or SAB as much as I used them on the chapters before Gran Pulse.

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>meow meow choco chow

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>use walkthrough
>complain it's not fun

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It's not like the game is any more fun without a walkthrough anyway.

inb4 that retard linking a Japanese playthrough to try and project the illusion that XIII has depth

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You wouldn't know.

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I think I'm gonna drop this game. The story just switched me to Sazh and Vanille, and I'm basically just running through long hallways and killing enemies again, with the same strategy I've been using for the past few hours.

And I still don't know what the hell is going on. The characters got branded as L Cie and given magic powers and shit by that god-like thing they fought earlier, and now they have to complete some specific task or something, except they don't know what is this task. It doesn't seem to be interesting enough to keep me playing this, and the characters are ranging from bland to straight up annoying.

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Not even then does it make sense.
If you only want a good story, read a book or watch a movie.

>there are no good Lightning cosplayers in my country
Why are we here? Just to suffer?

>I'm basically just running through long hallways and killing enemies again
That's pretty much all you'll do until chapter 9 or so.

Snow and his group were trying to free the people of Bodhum who were all unfailry thought to be branded as l'Cie because they came into contact with a fal'Cie. So they were being purged to Pulse by the government, because l'Cie are considered to be dangerous.

Lightning wanted to save her sister who was branded as a l'Cie, and Sazh wanted to save his son.

Hope saw his mom die and hates Snow for letting her die, and Vanille just ended up tagging along.

They all encounter a fal'Cie and got branded themselves, and their Focus has something to do with Ragnarok.

I don't know why people think this is hard to follow.

Wait, hold the phone. If lCie have marks on their bodies indicating that they're lCie, then why the hell is the government purging everyone they believe to be lCie if they can just search their bodies and purge the ones with lCie marks found on them?

Wow, that's boring.

cause it doesn't spoonfeed so they assume there is no story.

I wonder how many people even know pulse is explained in the cieth stones and hinted by fang and vanille.

or that type 0 has anything to do with 13 trilogy (nova crystal whatever...)

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>Wait, hold the phone. If lCie have marks on their bodies indicating that they're lCie, then why the hell is the government purging everyone they believe to be lCie if they can just search their bodies and purge the ones with lCie marks found on them?


Because that would make sense

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>government
play the game.

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The Sanctum is basically the government of Cocoon tho

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do you really want me to post one of the games biggest spoilers or are you trolling me?

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What that the Sanctum is actually led by a fal'Cie?

That doesn't justify the fact that everyone in the army thought it was okay to purge the entire population of a town and just went along with it. If at least some important character from their side questioned this decision and got suspicious, it could make for a decent story.

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The combat in this game is great. Don't pretend most Final Fantasies don't consist of just pressing Attack 4 times.

fuck, i might start replaying this on steam. played it first on PS3

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Does this game talk about the purest form of love?

It's hard to follow because the game does a remarkably shit job at explaining all of this, and even the stuff you can follow is fucking dumb.

Why did Hope's mother want to fight alongside NORA instead of just staying there with her son and ensuring safety for both of them? Why does Hope blame Snow for her death if it was a consequence of her retarded decision? Is it just so we have some shitty angst-ridden drama that drags on for most of the game? How the fuck did Snow survive that huge fall from the broken highway when literally everyone who also fell from up there died and Lightning had to use a gravity device to survive drops from huge heights?

Absolutely
I have an entire folder of the stuff

XIII was fun after Gran Pulse opened up(which it should have focused on entirely), before you had to get back to the story. LR refined the combat into something fun, though its garb customization is incomprehensible at all times. And XIII-2 had no redeeming qualities. Boring both in narrative and mechanics, I'm not sure why these are discussed at all.

Only waifu fags talk up this shit game series.

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That is if you constantly go out of your way to grind.

I don't spend too much time on grinding in JRPGs because I find that to be boring, so when a hard fight shows up I use buffs and occasionally debuffs. All of the previous FF games are a lot more engaging if you play them that way instead of just grinding and pressing Attack to win.

But XIII forces you to grind until you reach the limit of the Crystarium for that chapter, because if you avoid too many enemies the boss fight at the end of the hallway becomes a fucking chore. Also the game actively punishes you for taking your time and not finishing fights in a couple of seconds, something you can do comfortably by grinding and becoming strong enough to finish fights quickly.

I wouldn't mind it if you share. It's for, uh... r-research, of course!

Dude, I......look, I love meeting another fan of the pairing but honestly, there's dozens, maybe a hundred plus images in my folder and I can't be fucked to dump so I'll just post a few gems and maybe a comic or two

they realise that, rebel and get crystalized with no focus though, which you'd know if you played the game.

I guess its true, critics really don't know the story.

XIII-2 was literally the good version of XIII.

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I really disagree. It's been a long time since Final Fantasy required grinding for anything but optional content.

What the fuck? That's literally never shown anywhere in the game.

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>If at least some important character from their side questioned this decision and got suspicious