You know it's worse than you thought when even Bethesda know they fucked up

You know it's worse than you thought when even Bethesda know they fucked up.

2 years later and Fallout 4 still has no complete edition with all DLCs and they completely neglect the game expect of some occasional minor patches.

Say it with me: BLUNDER!

What's that Todd, I should buy your game? I don't know man. Oh, it's like this it? Well now that you put it like that it sounds like a great deal. So just pick it up on Steam, yeah, and we're all good? Wait, but I don't a console- you mean I should buy them anyway? I don't understand. Todd, please put the gun down, I'll buy them, I'll buy them. I'm sorry, I'll never doubt you like that again. Thank you Todd.

they arent after quality, theyre after a billion, and they got it.

I think Todd is aware of what went wrong. TES6 is going to be their masterpiece.

JUST BUY IT

Kid the only blunder was your dad forgetting to use a condom the night you were conceived.

Posted from my mansion*

Im hyped as fuck for Todd at E3 and I don't even care what games they present.

> I think Todd is aware of what went wrong
Sure he is. He even admitted that in one of the interviews. Far Harbor was step in the right direction. I hope they will get rid of emil pagliarulo one day and put this guyFH lead designer in charge.

I actually had a lot of fun with Fallout 4 2bh

Literally bought it for the first time a few days ago and I'm having tons of fun.

Actually I beat Fallout 4 when it first came out, and a year later when all the DLC was out, and the additions and improvements were noticeable. They have also put a lot of effort in getting mods on consoles which like it or not is something new that no other game has really done. They are also working on a complete VR compatible version of the game.

I'm not making excuses because they are clearly milking the game for all that the can, but to say they aren't working on it is just plain false.

this
Emil Pagliarulo is the most incompetent writer they could possibly have.

I don't care about Fallout 4 i'm afraid that they're gonna screw up their new ip (obviously it's a new ip, since latest fallout was just a couple years ago and next tes is "long way off"). I really wish them luck so they could forget about fallout for good and do their own stuff.

Far Harbor is what the main game should have been.

I think there is a decent chance we see TES6 hat E3 this year.

I like it

I wish I believed that, but then they released Nuka-World and proved they hadn't learned a god damned thing.

Nuka world was developed by a bunch of incompetent fucks who was in charge of automatron (same shitty quality). Far Harbor team nailed it, others should've been fired already.

20€ / 300 hours = 0,07€/hour

It was good game in the end.

doubt it. Main reason for delay was technology. He was probably imlying next-gen consoles.

Pirating it right now, how's the modding scene?

Only thing I care about, and only reason I've given it a bit of time before getting it.

I wanna fuck Daisy so bad

Oblivion was a miss, Fallout 3 was a miss, Skyrim was a miss, and Fallout 4 was a miss, but don't worry guys we got it this time.

>how's the modding scene?
No Sex-tech yet.

It depends what you're looking for. I had a lot of fun with mods like Horizon, Moribund World, and Reverb and Ambience Overhaul. Makes the game kinda Stalker spooky, I hate the happy atmosphere that vanilla has. There are also a lot of gun mods, even a realistic pump shotgun mod, there's no pump shotguns in vanilla.

Modding scene is almost non existent.

New Vegas gets more love from modders than this.

That sucks, but I can live with it.
The usual, texture/lighting overhauls, as well as content like guns/armour.
Sounds bad, it's been out a fair while hasn't it? I figured all the important stuff would be released by now.

>it's been out a fair while hasn't it?
Yes but this is Fallout, it has nowhere near the size of the modding community for Elder Scrolls. Fallout 3 and New Vegas took years for the really good mods to come out, for example we only got a Fallout 4 Mod Configuration Menu a week or two ago. Also the Pip-Pad came out recently, a Readius style replacement for the Pip-Boy. Good mods like that take a while.

I mean, I'm not going to deny that you can make the game look amazing with mods or say that they don't tremendously improve the game. It's Bethesda, so they'll have a modding community and it's a lot of fun to tweak settings just the way you want. But the game itself is so limited that there's no reason to not play something else. Nothing FO4 modding offers can't be found in other, better games.

Is there an alternate beginning yet?

>Fallout 4 Mod Configuration Menu a week or two ago
Ah shit, maybe I should wait another year or so then, figured all the essential base mods would be out already and there would be other mods building off of them too.

Y'all will run out of fun stuff to do in less than 15 hours

the modding scene is reliant on people giving a shit.

modders surely realize that fallout 4 doesn't offer anything new, and it isn't worth their time to invest in it.

I've played it three times. The combat is really good.

You say that as a joke but it's probably kinda true, well not the masterpiece part, but it's probably fair to say that Todd cares way more about TES than Fallout.

the combat is the exact same bullet-sponge enemies as fallout 3.

all the people who've said the shooting is good in fallout 4 are high

Fallout 4 offers one significant difference to all other Bethesda games, it's the first game they've ever made that is actually fun to play. The animations don't suck cock and the gunplay is far better than in New Vegas. It's a decent sandbox shooter with a lot of customization because of modding.

I think you should replay Fallout 3 if you honestly think that's true.

Shame everything else was a gigantic step back, the gunplay was the only thing that got improved when compared to F3/NV.

And the DLC is vastly overpriced for what little content it offers

I built a good computer for the first time in a decade. I haven't played any games since 2014 besides MGS V. What should I play now that my computer can run basically everything?

Is Fallout 4 worth playing with mods?

I think the complaints about Fallout 4 are illegitimate but greatly exaggerated, for the most part. And some of those complaints are almost irrelevant if you know what you were getting into when you decided to play it, for example, one of the biggest complaints is how shit the main story and the RPG elements are, all those complaints are right and i agree with them, but personally i knew that i wouldn't be getting an RPG experience from Fallout 4, so i don't really care about it.

Although i will admit that they fucked it up way harder than in their previous games, i think the biggest mistake they made was make the story about your child, i always have the main story nagging in the back of my head because it's very hard to justify a parent(especially when you have evidence that you had a happy life with your family) not chasing across the world after your kid, so many things are interwined with the main story that you can't really just rush through it and then enjoy the rest of the game, most of the faction's quests end when the main story ends. Compared to Skyrim and Oblivion and to a lesser extent even Fallout 3, they fucked it up really hard here, in Skyrim and Oblivion especially it's very simple to rationalize why your character would't give two shits about the Dragons or the Oblivion crisis.

Overall i think they nailed the exploration aspects in Fallout 4 and i actually do enjoy just traveling across the commonwealth doing random quests and exploring random stories in random places while fighting a pretty large variety of enemies. When i first played it also didn't like Fallout 4, i actually hated it, but i gave it a chance and now i can admit that i like it, which is more than i can say for more Bethesda tittles.

Also there's mods, even though the variety of mods for Fallout 4 isn't that great yet, i thin they are good enough, also Fallout 4 is the only Bethesda game that i would be willing to play vanilla, i mean, if you forced me.

I did. It's the same fucking shit. The ONLY difference is that early on in the game, your aim sucks. Once you get far enough into it, and your gun skill is high enough, it is the EXACT same fucking thing.

>friend has 1500+ hours in Fallout 4
>he doesn't mod it
Is he mentally disabled?

There are douchebags who have played fucking 3000 hours of xbox 360 skyrim. These games are like heroin for dipshits.

This, people forget that Fallout isn't nearly as popular as TES, also for some godforsaken reason Bethesda took an eternity to release the geck or whatever.

But saying that the modding scene is non existent is a gross exaggeration, several mods are uploaded every day.

Have there been any huge overhaul mods for Fallout 4 that actually make it into a fun game yet?

Just getting his money's worth.

Survival update.

I mean, him and I both play it on console, but even the limited amount of mods that are on there aren't that bad. Why the fuck would you just constantly play it and not even try mods once, especially when you have the option to.

Vr version will be Goty calling it now. yfw you can look down at your arm and use your pipboy as the good lord intended

What's with Bethesda's obsession with radiation? Feels like they always just nuke everything when they want something to be destroyed. Not even New Vegas was free from that.

Radiation did nothing wrong. Muh Atom! Muh Atom!

>Fallout 4 VR
>You can see how shit the reloads are with the ejected casings warping back into the gun

>Todd will never get to direct a game with an entirely new, much more competent team

This is a pain I do not want to feel

>death cult is tolerated despite everyone knowing the world was nuked into the stone age
>they somehow got enough members to expand outside the capital wasteland
>they aren't massacred on sight

Muh Atom indeed.

I mean, they can live in the glowing sea without hazmat suits, so maybe they have super powers. Which is good enough reason to join a crazy cult.

Todd will eventually leave for CD Project Red where he can make the game of his dreams

Now that I think about it, why weren't they just ghouls in the first place? It makes a lot more sense than them being human.

Good question, maybe it's mentioned somewhere in the game because now that i think about it, i don't recall even seeing a child of atom ghoul.

Maybe they think because they are ugly that means atom doesn't like them, i dunno.

So shitty writing then, got it.

Unironically this.

Doesn't Far Harbor kind of confirm that the CoA are actually onto something, what with the vision you get at the spring?

If they are right, then the Atom could really be keeping them safe from radiation poisoning.

>I hate the happy atmosphere that vanilla has
go infest another game with your muh stalker atmostphere
beside, horizon mod has opposite design philosophy to stalker. On stalker master, you die so easily you have to put a lot of money toward survival. In horizon survival, you are spongy as fuck but you cant never have enough items due to the gimped levelled lists.

I haven't played through far harbor so i don't know, but i do remember shitposting about a radiation ghost or something.

It's pretty cheap with the double discount thing on psn

Is it worth like 15$?

Well if you like other Bethesda tittles i guess so, but i don't know why anyone would willingly play a Bethesda game on consoles.

It's a solid game, 15 bucks sounds like a reasonable price considering that's how much a single piece of DLC for it costs and offers far far less than the base game.

With that said the performance on consoles isn't great, play it on PC if you have the chance.

Why? They can't even make ladders, let alone good combat

Aren't they making a space-rpg? Would be cool if bioware would get btfo by bethesda.

Oblivion was good, Fallout 3 was good, Skyrim was great, and Fallout 4 was a miss, but don't worry guys we got it this time.

wrong

Good argument. You should run for president with that rethoric.

Is Fallout 4 w/ mods worth playing yet? I have yet to play Fallout 4. How does it run compared to skyrim? Are the waifu/lewd mods good?

>didn't preorder
>didn't buy game at lauch
>bought game and season pass for $40 each when on sale
>made my own goty edition for $20 less then it would have come out as

The smart consumer always wins

oblivion was okay and they've made the exact same game 3 more times over the last decade.

I hoped fallout 4 would move things forward, finally being made for a console that's not the xbox 360, but it was just the same shit again.

but I'll buy tes6 hopeful that it will finally move things forward after 15 fucking years or whatever it will be, because I'm a dumbass.

It really is a blunder. It made money though, but the modding scene around it died. This will come to hurt Beth with future Fallout releases as modders aren't hot to trot for them anymore.

Pretty gud but paid DLC is cancer and the Game still feels incomplete and doesn't feel next-gen. The AI feels mentally-handicapped, pathing is as fucked as ever.

I literally spent more time building settlements than actually completing all four storylines

>spent 80 dollars on a shitty old game
meanwhile, I bought it for 60 bucks when it came out, played it for a week, and then wished I hadn't wasted my money.

Say it with me: CONSOLISED GARBAGE

Fallout 4 mod community is dying already. Half of the mods are body/face presets. Really nothing interesting.
Also no sex mods yet.

>waifu/lewd mods
elder scrolls will always have better smut mods. don't waste your time with fallout 4 for that

There are sex/slave mods, you filthy casual

Thank you for your input. Downloading it now. I want something fresh after playing skyrim for 6 years.

Yeah but I want something different from elder scrolls now. The waifu/slut roleplay is only half the dish.

Tell me more

>No mod on the Xbone to keep Curie in her robot body
I just to fuck a robot, is that too much to ask?

TES6 isn't showing up until 2019 at the earliest.

Todd himself said that Bethesda is working on 3 major games right now, 2 of those are new series for the studio. TES6 was the last one to be released due to Bethesda needing 5 or 6 years to invent ladder technology and bolt it onto the Creation Engine..

I think Fallout 4 was shit is because so many good ideas were spit on by the Zenimax suit wearing kikes. Just looking at the artbooks of fallout 3 and 4 makes you wonder how the fuck didn't this "gain traction" or how could Todd say no to this? It's always the most basic, boring and fucking laziest designs out of the bunch.

>Todd i'm afraid it is not possible to create ladder technology for our engine
>You don't understand, the story requires ladders
>I'm sorry Todd, it just cannot be done
>I was afraid you would say that, i suppose this leaves us with no choice

great the final nail in the coffin for TES, fucking consoles, if they cant keep up, tough shit

>can run fallout 3 with High res texture packs and a shitload of mods
>all at 1080p and always above 60fps
>looks beter then fallout 4 vanilla
>Have to set all settings of fallout 4 vanilla at low for it to even run at sub 30fps, looks like shit.

Why are they so fucking bad at this?
They are litterly using the same engine for over a decade now, why cant they optimize it?
are they retarded?

It got him elected having no background in the field and the Republicans control of all branches of government hasnt been seen of in this country since its inception almost 250 years ago. Its a better argument than you will ever be able to produce in your miserable life.

Fallout 4 was so bad that it made me quit the Fallout series altogether.

wrong

>looks beter then fallout 4 vanilla
Stop the fucking presses

> 2006
>Oblivion is released. Zenimax registered "Skyrim" trademark
> 2009
> Todd H. says: "nah we're not planning tes v yet"
> 2010
> TES V is announced
> 2011
> Skyrim is released. Zenimax registered "Redguard" trademark
> 2016
> Todd H. says: "nah we're not planning tes vi yet"

I dunno guyz. I guess Todd is trustworthy and next TES is really not coming soon.

yeah, but are there mods that make skyrim's gameplay better.

I started skyrim a while ago since I got SE for free. Couldn't even play it for an hour, the combat is so bad.

When did Todd ever lie to us?
TES6 will come in 2030

But the revolutionary ladder climbing technology user! They need to make it so that you can climb that ladder just like you can climb that mountain, on horseback.

Companies register trademarks they never use all the time, I wouldn't be surprised if Zenimax has 20+ just for TES.

This is unironically right. I know people say why didn't Beth learn from Skyrim then? The huge hype overshadowed it's flaws. Not the case with Fo4.

>another human region

I hope not, Skyrim's setting was uninteresting because it was just trying to replicate the cover of metal albums instead of doing something unique like Morrowind.