I fucking hate hirez, I personally cannot respect a developer which blatantly rips off and plagerises another developers work but what pisses me off the most is that youtubers and other people actually defend hirez and their game. It fucking makes me sick that they not only get away with this shit but also youtubers and people actually support the fucking game and go out of their way to defend them.
FUCK HIREZ
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I fucking hate blizzard, I personally cannot respect a developer which blatantly rips off and plagerises another developers work but what pisses me off the most is that youtubers and other people actually defend blizzard and their game. It fucking makes me sick that they not only get away with this shit but also youtubers and people actually support the fucking game and go out of their way to defend them.
I fucking hate blizzard, I personally cannot respect a developer which blatantly rips off and plagerises another developers work but what pisses me off the most is that youtubers and other people actually defend blizzard and their game. It fucking makes me sick that they not only get away with this shit but also youtubers and people actually support the fucking game and go out of their way to defend them.
I fucking hate blizzard, I personally cannot respect a developer which blatantly rips off and plagerises another developers work but what pisses me off the most is that youtubers and other people actually defend blizzard and their game. It fucking makes me sick that they not only get away with this shit but also youtubers and people actually support the fucking game and go out of their way to defend them.
FUCK BLIZZARD
good point blizzard has taken INSPIRATION from games such as warhammer 40k and magic the gathering but you wouln't say that wow is anything like warhammer or magic is anything like hearthstone. there is a difference between inspiration and plagarism.
I bet you forgot that HOTS for the longest time was officially called "Blizzard DOTA"
Or that they're so butthurt over 'skeleton kings' in other games that they ruined the one of the best heroes DOTA ever had.
>Card from newest block
Depala is my new dwarf deck commander.
No they just steal. They are built on it. they would not exist without all the stealing. Like communists.
Weren't the creators of DotA cool with Blizzard using that? It was Valve who swooped in and made a big deal about it despite them having nothing to do with the original game (which was using Blizzard assets and engine)?
A lot of Paladins characters are blatant rip-offs of Overwatch characters, but Paladins has a lot of original characters too. Like Mal'Damba, Pip, etc. Actually, there are only a few Paladins champions that are rip-offs of Overwatch heroes. Most Paladins champions are original.
dota was a warcraft mod, warcraft was made by blizzard, blizzard made hots, doesn't want their property used by another game especially when they have a rival moba.
Are there even enough unique Dwarves to warrant a commander deck? Did Kaladesh add that many?
>It was Valve who swooped in
Blizzard is the one who sued valve over the name. Then they changed it to hots after the lawsuit ended.
its not that the characters are riped off, its the abilities, the weapons (pips gun and meis gun). All they did was switch weapons and abilities around and called it a day.
Alot, and aether revolt even more.
If I remember right Blizzard wanted it public domain, no? They were willing to have Blizzard DotA and DotA 2 simultaneously? But Valve wouldn't budge so they sued?
I'm no Blizzard fan but Valve has continuously showed me they are far worse than even EA.
So i guess you can say that Paladins was inspired by Overwatch, which was inspired by Team Fortress 2 and Global Agenda 2 (a Hi-Rez game)?
ok im ot here to defend blizzard for whatever they did im just here to talk about hirez' shitty fuckstorm of a game. and please there is a difference between what blizzard has done and what hirez has done
That's bullshit, Pip uses a nade launcher and Mei's just a short-range cyro thrower. Did you just look at the visual similarities and call them similar?
No blizzard tried ownership of the name because it was already associated with their brand and they just assumed they owned it so they never tried to trademark it until valve did. The lawsuit ended with the agreement that it would be in a public domain type deal with valve allowing dota maps to still exist in blizzard games.
Hi-rez is a shit company, sure.
That said, paladins is still more fun than overwatch on top of being free.
yeah totally, they copied global agenda 2 a relatively unknown game. please, just get over yourself. also they didn't copy tf2, the art style mabe the same and some character looks are similar but all around overwatch was based off mobas like dota.
No.
What happened was Icefrog at the time was head of DotA's development, however DotA was severely limited by the WC3 engine, for a while Icefrog was looking to get its own client for it.
For a long time people asked blizzard to hire icefrog to make a standalone, both to save WC3 custom games from being flooded by DotA bots, but also because DotA was so damn popular, more popular then WC3 was after 2006ish, by this point Icefrog went elsewhere to get DOTA made into a standalone, his first attempt was with S2, which spawned HON, but HON went in a direction that icefrog didn't like, mainly that the engine wasn't simulating what was developed on DotA 1:1 and the devs at S2 and icefrog butt heads alot, so he left the project, which is why HON had DOTA heroes early on, but went its own way.
Then Valve, who are notorious for hiring modders who make mods that are good enough to be standalone games, and gave icefrog a budget and a team (As far as a 'team' goes at valve, since people there just work on what they want when they want it seems) and he created his 1:1 standalone port of DOTA, and then proceeded to fuck it up.
When this happened, Blizzard, who were already developing their own DotA clone, as well as league of legends, who were also riding on the coattails of DotA's cult sucess at the time, decided to band together and go to court over bullshit copyrights, which they both got legally fucked, which is why LOL doesn't do anymore DotA slander advertising, and blizzard dropped the "Blizzard DOTA" Title.
Paladins hasn't been decent since CB29, and it got even worse when OB44 came out.
well don't they look the same, anyway i could go on and on about what paladins copied from overwatch but im guessing you already know all of that so im going to spare you the trouble. and btw just because one or two characters are original does to mean they have the right to copy everything else from overwatch.
Too bad paladins plays faster and has more dynamic gameplay then "Shoot at the chokepoint"
well i mean all the characters in paladins are unblalanced. the devs don't give a shit about bugs or anything, they basically copied most of their game from overwatch.I don't see why its better other than that it is free.
There is only one reason to hate Hi-Rez, and thats them dropping development of the best FPS game made in over a decade to cash in on the MOBA craze.
If anything, Hi Rez jumped on the MOBA hype train way before blizzard did.
>all the characters in paladins are unblalanced
I don't think you understand what unbalanced means.
>the devs don't give a shit about bugs or anything
Care to elaborate? I played maybe 40 hours and only ever had a bug with one of drogoz' skills.
It's free and it's not made by Blizzard, that's enough to get lots of people to defend it from everything even though the game has just been getting worse for months. It's sad to see
overwatch is more about strategy than acuall character abilities. And you have to admit that paladins abilities are lazy (most of the ultimates are just complex animations of oneshot's like bomb kings ability, skye's ability, drogorz ability.). I doubt you have ever played overwatch but you should at least try before making an opinion.
first of all, paladins had stuff before overwatch
second, really nigger? company that literally ripped off 40k and other shit is your hero? get the fuck out of here you blizfag nigga
>Overwatch is more about strategy then character abilities
Is that why the tank meta existed for 2 seasons and they've been nerfing abilites rather then trying to make not shit maps?
I mean, they fucked up CTF, how the fuck do you fuck up a CTF mode.
it's not about the moba craze this is way different, this is about paladins coping overwatch and people actually defending their actions.
>overwatch is more about strategy
my sides
Neither game is particularly strategic.
Paladins is way more fun than Overwatch. For one thing, you can buy items in the game, which gives the game a lot of variety. Also, you can't switch to a different champion in the middle of the game, which forces people to actually pick good champions. Also, the mounts seem like a minor addition to the game, but they're actually really convenient. In Overwatch, having to walk all the way to the objective after you respawn can be really annoying. Mounts make it a lot easier because you can get to the objective really quickly after you respawn.
Not only that, but Paladins has a whole category of champions just for flanking, which means that Paladins' players tend to flank more, which makes the game way more interesting.
Also, I think a lot of champions in Paladins look way cooler than most Overwatch heroes.
>overwatch is more about strategy than acuall character abilities
I have no face for this kind of stupidity
>Also, you can't switch to a different champion in the middle of the game
That's what I think overwatch does better.
In Paladins I can already tell which way the battle is going to go just by the heroes that got selected.
not bugs from the actuall gameplay but bugs like the textures not loading to not being able to find a game and not giving a shit about balancing. and yes balancing means not being killed over and over again by a character that can just fly away when he has low health, or a character that literally puts a fucking bomb that has a ton of range and oneshots anyone within that range.
Both games are shit it's just that paladins is less shit because it doesn't have an entirely toxic community. Plus it's free.
>overwatch is more about strategy
There are people who actually believe this
lol
You sound like you played only 2 hours and got stomped by certain characters.
Git gud faggot.
You never played Paladins did you?
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>killed over and over again by a character that can just fly away when he has low health
There we go, the classic "I'm bad at this game so it sucks"
Really? Because there is a reason why the meta for Overwatch is a less than half a dozen characters. Why bother balancing the others when everyone will just default to the same top tier characters. At least with Paladins, even if you come up againest a terrible matchup (which is only possible in causal without draft picks) you can still stomp on them with the right set of items.
The shit you described was fixed over half a year ago and the 2 characters that you claim are overpowered are objevtively at the bottom of the tier list. You never touched Paladins did you?
>Paladins' players tend to flank more
literally any character in overwatch can flank if they have enough skill to do so and are familliar with the character.
and how is being stuck with a character better than being able to switch? Being able to switch makes the gameplay stay intence since switching allows counters for different play styles and enemie tactics.
oh but in paladins you dont have to walk though
I don't get this complaint. I have 70k elixir left after buying most of the legendary cards for the champions I enjoy playing.
>sky fernano and eve is now bottom tier
what happened? this makes me want to come back
jesus christ, that ass on the right is heavenly
items don't do shit and you know it, it barely has an impact in the game at all. and i was talking about androxus.
why the fuck am i arguing about paladins i seriously don't give a shit about that game. I am mad that they copied blizzard.
It makes people take team composition more seriously, and people actually try to come up with a good team composition, instead of just picking their favorite champion. Also, the in-game items allow you to counter different champions and team compositions.
And yeah, a lot of Overwatch heroes can flank, but it's harder, and there aren't any characters specifically designed for flanking. Flanking is way more fun in Paladins because there are champions specifically designed for flanking.
That image is completely retarded
it was inspired by TF2 alone. literally no one played global agenda.
>items don't do shit and you know it, it barely has an impact in the game at all.
Holy shit man, no wonder you suck at paladins
not really, have you seen the new character. overpowered, and it is also unbalanced since if you have a team wich soley consists of front lines you will automaticly win.
>I am mad that they copied blizzard
But not mad about blizzard copying valve?
Or the fact that a lot of stuff in paladins was pre-overwatch?
An item that negates 90% healing is not game changing? An item that gives 300% damage boost to shields is not game changing? Overwatch wishes that it has these items so that their meta isn't so stale.
The new character just got nerfed way beyond repair
Yet despite that Overwatch's meta has stagnated to keeping a select few heroes on your team for the entirety of the match
>And yeah, a lot of Overwatch heroes can flank, >but it's harder
because it takes fucking skill to win in a game
good team composition? not picking their favorite character?
are you bagging overwatch or paladins becuse what you said always happens in paladins, atleast in overwatch you can switch characters if your team is doing bad and you can come up with a new tactic. shit dude, have you even played paladins
You forgot the item which cancels 90% of crowd control and is dirty cheap
I don't understand why Barik is ranked so high. Don't get me wrong, I love playing him. I do well with him most of the time but I can honestly not understand why.
His shield doesn't last long and has a medium cooldown so you won't have it up often enough. His turrets even if empowered with a legendary feel like a joke and he himself deals relatively low damage.
His ult can situationally be very useful, but it doesn't last long enough to matter in my opinion.
Barik is a shit tier tank, and that is a shit tier list
>literally 90% healing reduction for enemies
>literally 225% extra damage to shields
>30% movespeed or cooldown reduction
Yeah these things don't matter at all, what were they thinking?
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
tf2 is so different from overwatch. abillities, characters and classes, map design, are you fucking retarded? that is the most mediocre excuse for plagarism i have ever seen.
I agree Barik is definitely the worst tank. The best tank is probably Torvald, Makoa, or Inara.
I fucking hate CDPR, I personally cannot respect a developer which adapts a blatantly rip off and plagery of another writer's work but what pisses me off the most is that youtubers and other people actually defend CDPR and their game. It fucking makes me sick that they not only get away with this shit but also youtubers and people actually support the fucking game and go out of their way to defend them.
FUCK CDPR
The "paladins isn't stale" posting is hilarious. You all do know that's simply because hi-rez won't leave the game alone for more than week, right? Every fucking week they give us new balance or even a new damn champion. They don't give the game any time to settle and if they did picks would turn into the same shit all the time. Paladins "never stale" meta isn't do to game design it's just because the game is updated constantly.
haha, irony
so how many posters here are newfags to gaming, because shit like copying competitors is how video game industries work and flourish
Yeah how dare they update their game often.
He has the one of the highest DPS a front line can have and his shield is unique in that the cooldown starts when its planted. He can permanently keep his shield up with the right build
The list is from Bird, one of the players in the top ranked team and based on the latest patch. It's not going to get more competitive than that.
>Black guy with immense forehead checking out the ass on the healer
>Blizzard did not copy tf2
There are people on this board who unironically write this
haha xd lol
Torvald is a meme if your team has any idea of how to play around him.
At the start of a game you can simply avoid him because his range is so pathetic. Just dismantle the rest of their team first.
At midgame if you have two dps with wrecker 2 you can simply melt him.
Who cares about the copies, they fucking ruined Paladins simply because their judaism took the best of them.
Is it looking like Makoa is going to be nerfed? I really enjoy playing him but once I get my cooldown reduction I have almost 100% uptime on my shield and I feel like that might be unintentional
>times ticking
you get one shotted
>>give your king a big hug
you get one shotted
>>try and run
you get one shotted
>>death awaits you
you get one shotted
>>beware the dragons fury
you get one shotted
it doesn't matter because characters that are weak will always be weak and characters that are strong will always be strong wether or not you buy the items or not. it makes no difference because you will always get oneshotted and no amount of crowd control or cooldown reduction will change that.
warcraft was originally a warhammer game and got shamelessly ripped off. Hence dota=warhammer.
So, Paladins is a cheap ripoff of an expensive ripoff of TF2?
Why would anyone play Paladins instead of Team Fortress 2 then?
>getting one-shotted by those outside of Drogoz
>literally starting with nerf's ticking
lmao
You just listed one shots by Ults, which comes arounds at best twice every round. The other 90% of your death comes from regular play. And even then you have cooldown reduction card that could let you activate your movement ability to GTFO the Ult.
If you can't avoid those ults you should just end yourself
>>times ticking
>you get one shotted
You are bad at this game. Take cover behind the payload or behind a wall and that ult is worthless. There's a reason skye is considered shit tier.
well paladins doesn't have the autistic community of tf2, so there's that
Okay, I take that back. In Paladins, people take team composition just as seriously as they do in Overwatch.
But about the flanking thing: with the exception of Tracer, most Overwatch heroes are not agile enough to flank effectively. However, most flank champions in Paladins are fairly agile, and they can zip around the map which makes flanking a much more viable strategy than simply attacking the objective.
>literally everyone shitting on Paladins even in their subreddit circlejerk
>Hi Rez literally attacking the community
How is this game still alive.
10 years is a long time my friend, for a hero to turn into a villain.
>New game with constant updates
>Actual interesting designs
>Abilities
>Confy maps
>Skins, not retarded hats
isn't that pic old since they adjusted so much things from the shitty OB44 initial release
The only one you're right about is Drogoz' ult, and you can kill him during his windup and charge if your team is paying attention.
>overwatch is more about strategy
>How is this game still alive.
its fun and its free
???
because it's fun