Nier Automata

So what's the recommended difficulty? Normal or Hard?

I ask because some games are way too easy on Normal but in Nier not allowing for lock-on on Hard in an action game seems annoying.

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Hard

Hard

I'm playing through it now. Normal difficulty seems just right for me. However, there are certain areas you'll go through with random enemies that are like double your level. It's kinda weird.

This game is miles better than FFXV though. I'm really impressed and I'm having a hell of a good time with it.

>on NG+
>come across a flyer quaddrone thing but with explosive suicide arms instead of guns
>they one shot me
wtf

I'm finding it more boring than XV personally

I started on hard and boy, did I set myself for a suffering.

The double crane fight is wrecking me everytime and holy shit, I'm not even allowed to analyze what I'm doing wrong.
And I'm WAY too autistic to put It on normal and admit defeat.

And by now, I can do the shmup sequence with my eyes closed
Please, send help

Go hard, but have alot of defense/health chips... ALOT literally you will be one shot if you don't...

have you tried dodging? that works pretty well

Spam R2

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What is it with this meme rivalry between Nier and FFXV? Almost every-time I see Nier mentioned its always followed by someone saying that its way better than FFXV.

>the settings in the beginning are actually recorded
Fuckin kek this game
Post ywf you left self destruct off

Normal on first playthrough, hard on second.

Really? I love the atmosphere of NieR because it's so radically different than any other game I've seen in a long time. FFXV was meh, didn't fulfill a lot of the promises the hyped up marketing campaign showcased.

Both made by square enix

this was me for 3 hours. had to redo the tutorial stage so many times.

Is it like Nier where difficulty only makes enemies hit harder and have 10x as much health or does it actually change anything?

I spam dodge super hard but I'm still right in the middle of those fuccking buzzsaws, witchtiming like a motherfucker and stuttering buhbuhbuhbuh like fucking dunkey.

And they still hit me. There's obviously some kind of safe spot in this but I can't find It.

Similar style games (ARPG), both made by Square. When you look at it that way, it's easy to make the comparison.

Both Sqeenix JRPGs with a decent amount of hype around it.

It's not that. Only thing that blew me away was the amusement park. XV had none.
But good Lord, I just finished my first playthrough of automata and it was boring as fuck. Gameplay is good but so boring with the main quests and shitty fetch quest side missions. Where is the banter like in nier to make it worth while? Hell, I like the first Nier better outside of gameplay.
XV was incomplete but man did it have ideas. Shame

Square Enix didn't make this games

Game****

Published I guess.
Taro works with SE and was director so it counts

I see your points, and I agree that the banter between the characters is lacking because 2B has 0 personality. I wish she was more than just a mindless killing machine.

I hear 9S is much better so hopefully its better.
Hear me out, I bought Automata not for the gameplay since I was coming from Nier Nier im I'm very disappointed at the moment. XV also disappointed me but for different reasons but at the same time surprised me a bit. Not much, but there was moments that I always wanted from road trip in a video game.
Gameplay is more important for other series like DMC but for me not so much for Nier

hard ofcourse. Could go Even hard if you want to get gut

I'm treating 2B's segment as more of a worldbuilding thing. The first time around you're still wowed by the desolate vistas but the plot and character interactions are versions of 'why the fuck are we here?'. I'm hoping that part gets expanded in subsequent playthroughs, though I don't expect Nier/Weiss-level EPIC BANTZ.

2B is for breeding

Lol she got a donk for real. I self destruct every time I boot up the game just to see :^)

The only difference is that on hard you'll have to press recovery item button multiple times instead of just once after getting hit. And you cannot lock on which is annoying as fuck.
That's it. The "game" is clearly made on normal and the other difficulties are sloppily done just by changing numbers

People want an excuse to shit on games and have a side in a pointless comparison

>FINALLY get to play as A2
>she cuts her hair short
JUST

I was really hoping 2B over the course of the first playthrough would learn to have more bantz or something. Most of the time when she spoke i honestly wanted her to just shut up with her bland robot ass self.
>that bit where she almost calls 9S "Nines"
Hopefully these next few playthroughs are better for her

XV kun why don't you go back and play your game.
You were bragging about it having tons of content yet you are here shitposting. Was your claim simply untrue?

This is the most perfect design ever.

I'm playing on Normal and I'm good so far.

The facts that you lose all your chips when dying is so much annoying that I reload my save each time I die (which doesn't happen often anyway), that's my personal challenge.

The game is an RPG at its core, it's not Metal Gear Rising where each encounter was a matter of life-and-death. You're meant to blaze through the small fry to get to the interesting parts.

Not him but XV was released months ago.
Also it has more contents in the same way Witcher 3 has more contents.
There's like 500 samey fetch/kill quests when the devs didn't even bother to add 2 lines of lore to pretend what you do is actually related to the world and not just padding.

There's an item that you can equip that will give your character long hair.

I liked her conversations with Pod 042.

shut up

Now that the dust has settled, Devola or Popola?

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Is 9S' spear launcher the best launcher in the game? Shit can lift entire groups of enemies.

Devola, how is this even a question

Are the updates broken for anyone else?

>Start route C
>Haven't saved after long ass B ending and C intro
>Some new bomb mob 1HKO me
>GAME OVER

I want to kill myself

Are there any quests in playthrough A that I can't do in playthrough B? The game ended really abruptly, so I failed like ten of them.

you should be able to do them again later, just not immediately

how do i get good? i just fought the two shirtless faggots and only got through it by spamming healing items. i'm playing on normal btw

Dodging is broken. Use it.

No lock on, higher scaled level zones by default. Bosses use mechanics to win rather then leave themselves open.

>Metal Gear Rising where each encounter was a matter of life-and-death.
>You're meant to blaze through the small fry to get to the interesting parts.

You do that in Rising also. Also Rising gets trivialized when you find out that the parry mechanic is broken.

Do I really need to download the update?

Is there any network features even? Can I use all the preorder shit without the update? does the update even chaneg anything other than some (I hope) small bugfixes and that NIN64 bullshit?

I really don't wanna wait another 2 hours to play the game.

hard. once you get the plug-ins that lets you heal after killing an enemy and the one that heals you after 3 seconds of not taking damage.

By Parry do you mean the launcher move that happens when you witch-time a dodge?

ones your lvl 10 and found decent amount of plug-ins and heal items, hard mode is for you.

hard is down right un-fair in the beginning of the game.

I'm right at them with A2 and doing their second quest in the desert. I guess the location is where you met Adam for the first time but I've been gaining levels from 48 to 54 there by now because monsters just keep respawning but no fucking quest item drops.

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK.

2B is for _______

>The facts that you lose all your chips when dying is so much annoying that I reload my save each time I die

you know you can pick your body up like dark souls and get them back right?

Did anyone actually predict the development Taro will take with 2B and especially 9S before the release of the game?
I thought that 9S will die and 2B will go nuclear, not the other way around and not with such a massive romantic context.

Dying

9S

>Hopefully these next few playthroughs are better for her

>So what's the recommended difficulty? Normal or Hard?

Normal seems to be what the game is designed for. In hard mode people have run into problems where enemies become bulletsponges, and I kind of hope they release a balance patch at some point for higher difficulties even though I played on normal myself.

At least put checkpoints in the tutorial. There's no reason for that part of the game to lack checkpoints when the rest of the game has checkpoints in the beginning, middle and end of boss fights.

If it's the disc version or if it's the download but already fully installed then just go ahead and play it. As long as you install the update when it's done you'll be fine.

>2B is supposed to be a combat android
>by the end of a day she's worse at combat than both A2 and 9S
>lacks any unique gimmicks of her own like 9S' hacking and telekinetic movesets or A2's rage mode and taunts
>story shits all over her and all her attempts to find happiness in life

>There's no reason for that part of the game to lack checkpoints
It's inconvenient but from a story point of view it makes sense.

Fucking thank god.

Cheers mate.

>my personal challenge is to savescum

?

how does it make sense? you die in the end anyway

I just found out you can lock-on during the Hacking minigame.

can you do it on hard mode?

if it's actually possible then that is some slap to the forehead

Bullshit.

It kinda makes sense though since 2B is an execution model opposed to an actual combat model like A2

Hard, just like your penis should be when playing it.

how is A2 better than 2B combat-wise? the only difference is that she has a taunt and berserk mode which eats away her health

Yeah you die at the end and you're transported to the bunker because 9s uploads your memory to save you. Since this isn't done before you can't just respawn or continue.

Playthrough C pertinent question:I just got to the third character and i'm kind of disappointed that the game is sort of claiming to have hit it's stride right now, showing the title screen finally and all that but i feel like at this point it's stretching itself pretty thin and not really introducing any new stuff. Like the only level concievably left to discover will be the silicon tower in the sky, not to mention I haven't seen a side quest in like 10 hours back in Run A. My completed quests are at 27% though? Did i just miss a bunch in Run A or does the game really pick back up?[/Spoiler]

is jump+fire swing attack a finisher opener or something? I never used actually hit anything with it until i started using it on the Dojo Robot which always opened him up for a circle finisher

so it's not just me who suffered with those double giant buzzsaws

I find it hilarious that she can't even defeat 9S in combat as in novel he almost takes full control of her and is only stopped by logic virus placed by Commander.

A2's taunts let you cancel into other moves.

All of the parts have their own unique sidequests, including part B.

Both taunt and berserk increase her damage output way greater than anything 2B is capable of.
And 9S has hilarious shockwave synergy on his movesets and hacking which is the single most broken attack in the game.

I don't understand how 9S is better at combat than 2B, his hacking is pretty good at dispatching enemies quickly but besides that he's a pussy

just turn it down to normal for the save-less tutorial boss fights

game won't penalize you for doing so

if it triggers your pride that much go back and beat it on hard once you've actually seen the attacks of the boss so you don't get one shot when he uses something new

she's missing light charge attacks though

You can clear a crowd easily with just dodging and hacking. Add in the witchtime chip and you're untouchable

Play Hard and max out your chip storage within the first couple hours.

Ok well i sped thru 9S's part because i can't stand him, it only took 4 hours thankfully. I'll go back some time for completion's sake

A2 is pretty great so far at least

Can anyone tell me how bad the framerate drops are on PS4 pro? I dont know if I should wait for the PC version or not.

He is the best crowd controller and second best DPS character in the game and also the best character for hard mode. All his movesets are extremely safe and spammable, his large sword moveset is probably the best anti-group moveset in the game and hacking is like a ridiculously powerful nuke you can drop at any moment to kill or even control the foe.

Is the 100% grind in this as awful as it was in Nier? So far the abundance of eagle eggs, moldavite, petite, and titanium alloy has been nice after they gave me hell in the first one, but I'm just now going after pure waters and it's actually kinda annoying

there's a reason nines can destroy entire squad of toobies, user

The only time I've had it dip a bit is running through the main city area. Aside from that, never once in combat or in any other areas.

I'd still probably wait for the PC version if I were you though. I only got it on PS4 because I wanted to beat it and move on to some other games this month.

No one thought we'd be playing 9S of all people for the most part of the game either. As far as everyone was concerned he wasn't even a playable character.

She's like 2b but with a personality

But 2B has personality.
It's mostly "I want to cuddle with 9S but have to tell myself that emotions are prohibited to keep myself in line", but still.

I had a strange hunch Taro would pull and mgs2 ruse but with A2 instead of 9S
My bad *an incredibly generic one