I need an honest answer.
Are pre-made "game PCs" really that bad. Or do they work pretty well but just harder to modify? I don't care about modding my PC a ton. I just want to buy some desktop PC that can play basic games and I could care less how.
I know self made PCs are usually better in some ways. But is it like gaming PCs would break or not work. OR are they fine ?
ALSO
>If I am to buy pre made. What brands are solid brands. What ones are kinda shitty. What ones should I avoid?
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They're fine but overpriced
They're fine if you don't mind paying twice as much for the same hardware.
Well. What brands are the best. What are the worst ?
Premades often bundle premium flagship cpus/gfx cards with shitty mobos, hard drives, power supplies and ram to make the price more attractive. Yet you still pay out the ass for assembly labor, warranty, software (installing Windows and anti virus takes like an hour but costs hundreds of dollars) and "round the clock" customer service. You're also paying a premium if you go a brand like HP/Dell etc.
You should either learn to build your own OR assemble the parts yourself online and have whatever shop you're buying them from assemble it for you for a small fee.
I think they often save up on some components and then put better gpu for example so they can use it in marketing.
anyway those are usually fine, just more expensive. also probably comes with preinstalled shit that you probably want to get rid of.
Building a pc is like putting lego together and with any luck you might learn something new. Just go for it console cuck.
Nigger I don't know where you live, but in my country (Poland) I just go to any non retail-chain computer store and do the following:
-Good day sir, I am in need of building a PC that will allow me to play X game in Y resolution, I did some research and I would like it to be powered by a Intel I5-6600 processor. What type of a motherboard and grapics card do you recommend?
-tells you some shit
-Oh, interesting, tell me more about the warranty please because it can be a stressfull metter.
-guy looks to the warranty
-Splendind old champ, now please help me with the power supply
-guy tells you about power surplus etc
-And when could you assemble it my dear friend
-3 days cause I need to order parts
-Delightull, here your advance, cheerio my nigga.
It's that simple
Just do some elementary research about what parts have the best price to performance ratio.
Yes, you will spend at least 300 dollars more (keep in mind as the total price of the PC increases, the ratio between premade and self built exponentially leaps). Moreover these fuckers have the audacity to charge for customer service and extended warranties when most parts these days have 3-5 year warranties. Some even lifetime.
>play CS:GO with IRL friends
>they all built there own rigs and every 3 months without fail they have to fix something that's fucked up
>be me
>buy $650.00 cyberpowerpc from newegg
>not a single problem in 2 years
buildfags are masterrace tryhards on overdrive, they don't actually know about computers - they just like repeating meaningless acronyms followed by numbers to sound smart.
>twice as much
delusional, there are deals on newegg that save you money and you all know it's true
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They are very overpriced. They come with the comfort of working out of the box but people prefer to trade that for more performance.
If you ever bought an apple product it's basically same kind of buttfuckery.
Prebuilt is usually fine, it's expensive as fuck and certain parts will be inferior (HD, RAM and so on). If you got the money and are eitther lazy or don't know how to build your own PC then they work, but building your own is always going to be the better option.
I bought a premodern tower about 5 years ago with the idea of upgrading individual components as I went, as I wasn't confident enough to try and build a pic from scratch with no previous experience. Did a lot of research, bought one with good ram, great processor and solid graphics card, eventually when I went to upgrade the GPU and opened it up I discovered the power supply unit, motherboard and wireless antenna were absolute garbage, and ended up having to replace them before the machine could actually handle a new GPU.
Looking back, From a skill perspective I probably would have been able to build one from scratch, it just would have taken a bit of time and been a proper project for a month or so. It definitely would have saved me a lot of money, especially when I went to upgrade and discovered the generic components the company don't advertise are minimum spec garbage, and each can cost a couple hundred on their own to rebuy and install before getting round to sorting out the component you actually wanted to change.
>€485 prebuilt
>Buying the parts yourself would cost €350ish
What?
It's not that they are "worse", it's just that they cost like twice what you would pay if you'd just get the parts individually. Don't be a lazy shit, and don't be afraid of assembling the PC, there's guides everywhere and honestly it's still all pretty end user friendly, you don't need special knowledge it's really like grown up lego
>work for aeronautics company
>company had a deal to get computers from a store at a heavy discount, since they tend to get computers for whole office floors
>but the discount doesn't require a set amount to be bought.
I get prebuilt computers for half off the listed price, and my company even pays for 10% of it.
*fries ur PSU*
>it's really like grown up lego
That's a good selling point
They are heavily overpriced
They still jew you by installing cheap parts that normies don't care about (everything that isnt cpu, gfx and case)
They're better than they used to be. The reason prebuilt gaming PC's have such a bad reputation is because they would often have decent CPU's but shit GPU's. So you'd have like an i5 or something and a GT 520 or some garbage. Now most companies won't rip people off as blatantly. The only other thing to watch out for is the PSU. It's hilarious seeing high end desktops with unlocked processors and aftermarket GPU's and a 400W PSU.
Twice
Stop lying, I see this shit on Sup Forums all the time too, where people blatantly overestimate how much you can save by buying retail. If you live on ebay or Craigslist and aggressively hunt deals you can build stuff for cheap but Newegg and Amazon put prebuilts on sale just as often as retail parts.
Some brands are really good, but they're also ridiculously overpriced. So are you richer than you're willing to learn how to build a pc? (which takes like 3-4 hours for a complete noob)
Find a guy or a shop that will assemble a pc for a small fee
To be honest, it was just supposed to be a figure of speech. Obviously it's not twice unless you get really really really fucked. But it's still very consistently *more* and there is just really no reason to ever buy a prebuilt PC. It's like if you bought your new phone with a service to have someone put your sim card in or whatever. It's not excrutiatingly hard and does not take exorbitant amounts of time. I can see that having it delivered to your doorstep already build is cozy but, I don't know, just take the plunge and save a hundred bucks?
This shouldn't even be something to argue about to be honest. Buy it already assembled for a premium if you want, it's your money.
Not really related to the topic, but I just got my new PC to work and wanted to play some games. It lags like ass when I move my mouse(moving with the keyboard and clicking do not cause this). The sound gets choppy too. I am way above system requirements for the games I want to play (Sapphire RX 480 Nitro, i5 6600,16gb RAM) so what is the problem?
Have you installed the latest drivers and updates?
That depends. You can get premades with proper hardware in them. But you can also get shit with stupid proprietary motherboards, and bottom of the barrel hard drives. A lot of premades are designed to sound good on paper to idiots
I have the latest drivers for my GPU. It seems to be a issue with my shitty HP mouse or something
Like all the prebuilts on eBay
>GAMING PC FOR GTA 5 CS:GO OVERWATCH ULTRA FAST NVIDIA QUAD CORE 2TB 8GB
reality
>chinese literally who tier PSU and 2TB hard drive
>6GB DDR3 RAM + 2GB GTX 650
>AMD Phenom CPU @ 2.5GHz
Try a different USB port
It still stutters and the audio still has issues. I also forgot to mention my RAM is clocked at 2666mhz, but I have a H170 motherboard(only 2133mhz ram speed). I know the RAM clocks down, but maybe that is the issue?
There are prebuilts that are fine and there are some that aren't. You will usually pay more unless you find a really good sale.
You still have to know some shit about PC hardware if you want to avoid getting completely ripped off though.
Not much more to know.
It'll be harder to upgrade because prebuilts often cheap out on the power supply.
>Amazon has frequent sales
Even though they're known to bump the price of a product a ton just before putting it on "sale" so you essentially pay the same amount you would have before ?
I don't know about Newegg, but at least the websites I buy my parts on don't do that shit, or haven't been caught yet.
pre-made builds have retarded "powerful cpu with shitty gpu" thing. why the fuck i don't know.
but building is your pc is much much better.
it's basicaly making your own meal which you know what and how you put things inside.
That might be it
How could I stop this from happening? My ram is also 2 sitcks but in single channel configuration
Post speccy.
Thanks for the chuckle
Read your motherboard manual, it should tell you which slots to place RAM in to get a dual channel configuration. If you go into the BIOS settings (consult motherboard manual) you can change RAM speeds.
>powerful cpu with shitty gpu
This is actually a good idea nowadays because CPU technology barely improves while GPUs lose half their value every two years. Just a buy a new $200 video card in 4 years and your PC is as fast as a new one again while having to replace the CPU generates much more cost because you would need a new board and RAM too.
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>1064MHz
It's the RAM
I'd do what the other guy said and make sure your RAM is in dual-channel. Also make sure your GPU isn't sagging, if your GPU is too heavy it can cause slow graphics, that's happened to me before.
Speccy halves it, it's 2128 MHz
Never mind, a lot of people have this issue. It's still good to change it to dual channel though.
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I should have built the PC myself. So called tech service jewed me hard
>got 6600 instead of 6600k
>got h170 instead of a z170
>Insteand of an EVGA 550GS I got a FSP 600 Hyper M
Where did you buy from, that's some false advertising tier shit.
Pretty much this
I am from southeast Europe. I got it from a local hardware store. I gave the assholes a very specific and detailed parts list they should order for me and they fucked me over almost everywhere they could.
Can you rate my build please Sup Forums?
Pls no bully
For the record, I am an idiot. I need the idiot's guide to the idiot's guide so you'll need to explain it like you would a baby if I've gone wrong somewhere.
Honestly, all I want is to play games at 1080p 60fps. No AAA shit though, I'll mostly be donwloading and emulating old games.
The most challenging thing I'll probably want to to play is Fallout 3/NV modded to shit.
You're missing a soundcard. Do you really plan to play without sound?
Not that guy, but motherboards have an integrated sound card, don't they ?
For what you described you wanted to do and the price you have there, I would pretty much give this a 9/10. Very competent build that will do exactly what you said you wanted and much more.
I imagine someone will tell you to do 2x4 instead of 1x8 on the ram, but if you ever want to do 16GB, then going with 1x8 would be the better option.
His mobo comes with Realtek sound.
>2017
>buying a soundcard
Literelly every mobo comes with integrated sound, and his GPU has HDMI sound anyway. The ONLY reason to buy a soundcard would be for a S/PDIF port, since most mobos only have analog.
Can you translate that now please?
The typical sources of sound on a PC are:
1. Fpanel (Analog) this is the headphone jack on the front of your case. Relies on your motherboard's integrated sound.
2. On-board audio (Analog) These are the ports on the back of your case where all your other ports are. Usually 5 or 6 differently colored ports. Used for analog speakers or surround sound. They usually consist of line out, line in/front, mic in, side, center/subwoofer and rear.
3. GPU audio (digital) This is the audio transferred from the HDMI cable to your monitor TV. If you want this you obviously have to plug in your speakers or headphones into the display.
4. S/PDIF (Digital) This is the only port that most mobos don't come with by default, there's usually a header where you can attach a PCI sound card though. Sometimes it's also referred to as optical audio or TOSLINK.
Thanks man
OP I would recommend buying a prebuilt with a really good CPU and Motherboard.
Everything else is dirt cheap easy to fix/replace/upgrade. I buy prebuilts because usually you can find good deals if you look hard enough.
There was a 300$ HP desktop series that was on sale that had a decent Mobo, Had a i5-6500, Windows 10 Pro and a good power supply. I wish I had bought it and just installed an RX470 but instead I went with another prebuilt that had a good deal on a Rx480 but a weaker CPU.
There's nothing wrong with prebuilts, you're just paying more for the convenience of being able to get everything in one package. Although even with a prebuilt unless you want to buy a new one every 3 or 4 years you should be prepared to open it up and swap components. The physical assembly is honestly very easy, the part where it gets complicated is min-max autism related to video cards and shit .