Why do people only blame the wii for bringing in casuals into video games when the ps1 & ps2 are the two most highest...

why do people only blame the wii for bringing in casuals into video games when the ps1 & ps2 are the two most highest selling consoles of all time?

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Those casulas are the reason you keep getting good modern games, you know.

Also OP do you have old issues of Edge?

nah, i got the cover off of this site

oldgamemags.com/edge/

Oh yeah, I can get them from there any time. Bless that place.

This. Pretend elitists in here are the worst. They think they are dead special for getting into games like Yakuza rather than say, COD but then reveal they have never ever fucking played them before now.

Being on, or posting on Sup Forums is not some magic qualifier. Its like the pro boxer complaining to his coach that the gyms layabouts aint really about boxing at all, the fucking casuals. To which his coach replies, "never hate on the casual son, the keep the lights on so that you and i can continue to do this thing.

my mother bought the ps2 to use as a dvd player
we didnt have any games for it for ages until my brother convinced her to let us get gta san andreas or whichever it was

PS2 was largely used as a cheap DVD player. It was also just discontinued only like 3 years ago.

Because no one wants to believe their favorite company is cancer.

>it was cheap and people MOSTLY bought it for this reason.

Oh boy. This meme. I don't deny that it was a great selling point to have a DVD player but lets be factual:

There's never any citations for those declarations for a reason.

data360.org/dsg.aspx?Data_Set_Group_Id=497

The launch price of the PS2 was $299. At the time it launched in the US, end of 2000, the average price of a DVD player was a little over $150. That's not the price of a cheap DVD player, that's the average price, cheap DVD players were much less than $150 and way, way, way less than the PS2.

That link is with objective facts. It's a complete and utter myth

this best buy flyer from 2001 contradicts everything you said. and lol @ linking data360 (the source they linked is a dead link), its pretty clear you are an underage kid who wasnt around back then.

imgur.com/a/R6srn

What the fuck are you talking about faggot, the link works just fine, pic related.

Also, fantastic source you just provided to reply to my source.

Oops. Pic here.

now click the source url you dumb faggot.

>good modern games

Good thing they all cater to casuals now. Fuck modern trash.

Uh, yeah ok user, its fine. So whats your fucking problem? Pic fucking related

good lord are you stupid, look at your image. you see where it says source url? click that link. fucking retard.

user, i am just talking about the following link

data360.org/dsg.aspx?Data_Set_Group_Id=497

Its the one that actually contains facts.

without the source url or anytime of proof of where those numbers came from, the data means jack shit.

Welp. Its gotta be better than anecdotal evidence. Can you back up any of your claims??

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Again user, great source. I tried at least.

yeah becuase yours sooo much better

>Facts that were at one time, compiled by a reputable website
>not better than making a claim and just shitposting

Kind of yeah.

>implying those numbers werent pulled from someones ass

Guess we cannot make a conclusion for either argument then. Looks like we will never know.

nice try buddy, i won the argument.

How? You said "it was mostly used as a cheap dvd player" and have yet to post a source.

As you say "right out your ass."

i proved you wrong, therefore i won the argument.

I don't think thats how it works user. You simply have shown a dead URL, you first made a claim with no evidence to back you up. The onus is still on you.

>you first made a claim with no evidence to back you up

i never did this.

no

heres how it worked

PS1 DID bring in casuals, but the casuals actually were playing shit like FF7, OOT and MGS and liking them. you can't refute this, because this was fucking truth and the reason why RPG's got bigger than they were before FF7.

not like now where we have casuals playing ubishit openworld games and saying they are as good as older games. now, someone buys zero dawn and beats it in 3-5 days and turns it in to gamestop or sells on CL

I thought you were this guy

nah

Aw. Ok. You win then.

heh....better luck next time ;)

Where's Data360 sourced? Information seems off from the Christmas catalogs you can find online.
I'm not saying it's wrong but it might not be localized. Can I check based on major brands and locations? (eg: Sony USA)

Also sick screenshot you attention whore.

>you can't refute this because popular games got popular

Wtf are you on about? If this were true, how does it show that the mainstream enjoyed them and not whatever niche video gamer market it used to hold prior? What if those games were what satiated people while waiting for FF7?
Also werent rpgs considered to be the hardest thing to get outsiders to enjoy?