The great debate
The great debate
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one will attract slavs and brazillians because of f2p other is tryhard switch to this hero because muh statistics.
Champions is a bastartized version of old Quake and yet it's still miles ahead Casualwatch
>QC comes out
>Sup Forums plays it like 2 weeks and then drops it
>Sup Forums goes back to bashing OW everyday like usual
Who is the target audience for QC?
people who play fps games
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ill take anything over ow
If only we could have this debate after playing both
nobody
>team fortress fans got overwatch, tf2 and paladins
>quake players hate this moba shooter style
I'm a QL player and hyped for QC.
Old Quake players, arena shooters fans and I guess the most "hardcore casuals" those that play OW or CS waiting for something better.
You don't notice it here in the "everything sucks" echo chamber but people are actually hyped for QC since the PAX vids, even on arena shooters dedicated forum.
how is Champions "MOBA shooter style"?
he's a shitposter who doesn't know what he's talking about
QC is going to be ass with the ability shit. classic mode will be as dead as QL. i'm waiting for UT
Haven't played the new quake but overwatch is crap
Funnily enough the abilities are still less retarded than UT weapon alt-fires
yeah right, because invisibility is such a nice mechanic to have in an arena fps. go be wrong somewhere else
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>waiting for UT
You can play it right now. It's dead though and likely won't be alive any time soon (or ever).
what's your point? that the devs didn't learn from their mistakes?
>a game based purely on the skill of the player and his knowledge of the maps+weapons+mechanics
vs
>just left click things until they die and use MOBA shit elements to win in a game with 0 balance
I don't think Overwatch is as based on knowledge of the maps/weapons/mechanics as you think.
>i'm waiting for UT
this guy knows
Me, huge fan of TF2. Really excited to play this, even moreso when it's going to be free
It's still in alpha and already dead though.
Like it or not it's the ability shit -and the loot crates- that will keep QC alive and make it the next big thing in the arena shooter genre.
Quake 3 perfected that genre, if you want a new game like that to sell, you can't ask for inovation and you can't do the same thing either so QC was a logical evolution.
If UT4 change anything people will be mad, they already are. If it was almost the same thing as UT99 or UT2k4 with better graphics and nothing else, it would simply be dead within a year.
>overwatch
>good
>id
>good without carmack
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Oh fuck, QC is dead on arrival
Nice momentum kill
Fucking casual trash, and people defend this over overwatch.
What are you talking about? Maybe the movement isn't as good as TF2, but I don't see how QC is worse than OW
Quake has always been much better than UT
the movement is way better than tf2
Dumbass question:
Which champion is you favorite so far?
Me, pic related.
How to be a pro lucio
Someone post the TF2 webm