How the fuck did Nioh, a fucking niche title, manage to outsell Halo Wars 2...

How the fuck did Nioh, a fucking niche title, manage to outsell Halo Wars 2, one of microsofts biggest AAA exclusives this year?

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No one outside murrica gives a fuck about xbox or halo.

The NPD only tracks NA sales.

No one gives a fuck about xbox besides Phil Spencer and arbys

Halo Wars is not one of Microsfts biggest exlcusive.

If I recall even the first Wars didn't sell that well. It's a spin off RTS series.

1. Lack of marketing
2. Nobody wants to use the windows 10 store/not many people have xbones and even less of those want to play an RTS

Nioh is a dodge souls clone, and every casual gamer is now sucking up anything made in that genre.

>Halo Wars is not one of Microsfts biggest exlcusive.
What are their other AAA exclusives this year? You better don't forget about the "this year" part like I mentioned.

>Console RTS
>spin off
>no Master Chief
>Windows 10 PC
>not FPS or TPS
Why do you constantly think the Metroid Prime series of Halo is going to sell in general. the original Halo Wars like the first Metroid Prime only sold because it was new and different. Also for Halo Wars 1's case made by the Age of Empire team, Halo Wars 2 didn't have this so like Metroid Prime's sequels had a massive drop in sales. This is not rocket science this should have been easy to understand in the first place, only a small amount of fans like the Halo Wars series.

>halo spin off vs koei tecmo new IP

>I have not played the game but Im going to shitpost on Sup Forums
>Casuals

I wish there was a system to filter posters by IQ.

Again, one is new and original, the other is what the Metroid Prime series is to Metroid.

I don't know, I don't own an Xbone so don't really pay attention. The fact they might not have any others doesn't automatically make Halo Wars their big AAA title.
Wars is a spinoff and it sells as such. They're different genres

I'm sorry, user, but "2hard4u mature game for hardcore players" is the biggest casual bait ever.

Not him but Crackdown 3 and Sea of Thieves is coming. Also Gigantic is in Beta so we may hear about that this year at E3.

PS4 vastly outsells XBO, there are far more owners of it.

Halo Wars is not a popular genre. Souls style shit is very hyped up, it's a popular genre.


No one gives a shit about Halo Wars.

>nioh, a new ip with moonrunes on the front and a bunch of japanese voices, squashed between a bunch of games in a busy period for ps4
>halo wars 2, sequel, halo brand, only game released for the entire first half of 2017
>yet hw2 still got outscored AND outsold by nioh
To think Scalebound got cancelled for this shit.

Don't think anyone expected halo wars 2 to sell well. People were surprised that it was even getting made after halo wars 1. Maybe if it was $30 at release more people would be interested, but console gamers aren't interested in RTS games.

Not that guy but Demon's Souls was the only game I played for the difficulty and Dark Souls was the last one I bought just for the difficulty. Everything after that I expected to quite easy because the difficulty comes from not knowing what to do. Souls fans don't, or at least shouldn't, play the games just for difficulty.

The NPD only tracks NA numbers. PS4 leads by 1.6 million in NA.

Nioh is not a souls game. It's a new IP by koei tecmo.

Scalebound looked like shit too.

do you know if Crackdown 3 is still going to have any of what they promised years back? with the cloud processing stuff, that was supposed to boost performance or whatever bullshit sounding claims they made.

None of the souls games are difficult. They are designed for casuals. As you said, "difficulty" comes from knowledge. That is, dying on the boss and the dumb traps a few times until you know them.
There is no mechanical difficulty and there is zero skill required, just memorization.

Are you mentally challenged? I did not say it's a Souls game. I said it's a Souls style game. As in it's an action RPG where you dodge and roll around areas fighting difficult enemies while managing your health and stamina (ki), with difficult boss fights thrown in here and there. It's very similar to Souls and people love Souls right now, they eat it up.

No one gives two fucks about RTS on console, barely anyone gives a fuck about Halo anymore.

>To think Scalebound got cancelled for this shit.

don't remind me

Why do you ignore the first part of my post? Are you maybe mentally challenged? Also you're implying that the souls brand name is big enough to outsell the halo brand name, do you even realize what garbage you're spewing out of your mouth?

wtf I love arbys now

You think a normie would know that? It's a game where you fight monsters with hand to hand weapons and its hyped for being hard. Just because a Sup Forumsirgin would know the difference doesn't mean the average consumer will, you stupid autistic fuck.

I think they showed it off at this year's GDC showing that it still had the Cloud destruction.

>dark souls but with samuraiz! xD

I thought the consensus was that it was the Chinese people's fault for overextending their reach, and promising too much. Microsoft saw that no progress was being made and cancelled it instead of throwing more money into it.

Scalebound looked like shit and would have ruined Kamiya, dipshit.

>I havent play the game but I am going to shitpost anywayz! xD

I think it is

Mainstream video game companies finally realised that people want a challenge and challenging big budget are now doing well comercially.

And you hate it because it's popular.
This is a good thing for gaming. I don't see what's to hate.

I've no idea what Halo Wars is or that it even existed, let alone a sequel.

>Scalebound got cancelled for this shit

The game (or what little was shown of it) had horrid frame-rate and gameplay issues to begin with. I would have liked Scalebound to release just like anybody else, but it's no fault of other games. Xbone's limitations are probably more at fault than anything.

All that said, I can't wait for Microsoft to think the same old Halo/Gears/Forza will see them through another year...again. Neither Sea of Thieves nor State of Decay really interest me.

>"2hard4u mature game for hardcore players" is the biggest casual bait ever
I was referring to this more than anything. I have "casual" friends that have been turned off by this. People new to the genre (if we are calling soulslike a genre now) probably aren't going to eat this up or aren't going to be buying it for the difficulty at the very least.

>microsoft got no exclusives and still milking the few they got

>Halo Wars
>2
who even asked for this?

It's artificial difficulty. It doesn't actually require skill, just dying to traps and boss abilities once then you know them. Reload knowledge is the lowest of the low of the challenge factors. All of these games are carefully designed to look challenging at first, but even the shittiest players can complete them by sheer repetition.

On one hand:
>new IP selling 3 or 4 million is pretty impressive
>TN had a kind of shitty track record due to vanilla NG3, Other M, & NGZ so it's even more shocking
On the other:
>new IP had an open alpha, beta, and final demo
>is an ARPG which is what's hot at the moment
>is on the console that's more popular worldwide

C'mon now. I don't claim to be a super impressive gamer, but I've beaten MGS2 and 3 on extreme as well as the 3D Ninja Gaidens, so I'd say I'm at least one notch above the average casual. I definitely find the Souls-games challenging on a blind playthrough (well, perhaps not 2 so much). It's not schmups hard, but it has a decent difficulty level for the normal player. And how is timing attacks, managing stamina and exploiting i-frames not mechanical difficulty?

>souls clone

Team Ninja has clearly never made a hard as fuck 3d action game years before Demon's Souls existed.

World wide sales don't matter in this case since the NPD only tracks NA sales. The PS4 leads by 1.6 million units in NA.

Still 1.6 million more potential customers

This guy is trying to use "muh articifial difficulty" even though he doesn't understand that people's hardest souls game is their first one because they git gud by the second.

Still sales of microsofts biggest IP vs a new, niche IP.

A trap isn't artificial difficulty. A trap is a trap. You can spot them even on a blind playthrough if you pay attention. Are you telling me Ornstein and Smough is just memorization? Then every boss in every character action game is memorization since they have a limited number of attacks and there's a sure way to beat them if you can find it.

I think "Dark Souls is super easy" is as much of a meme as "Dark Souls is super hard!". Could you please give an exemple of a game that you consider to have good difficulty so I know which level we're talking about?

Why is this meme

I only play on Xbone, and don't give a shit about exclusives. Halo and Gears need to die already, and the only good "exlcusive" series they have are the Forza games.

I have an Xbox because it can play 4k blurays, has all the streaming services I want, and have friends to play FIFA and GTA with. If gaming is you biggest, or only, hobby then you need to get out more.

I wasn't arguing that Nioh sold less or that it didn't BTFO Halo Wars 2 though, so I'm not sure what you're on about

It's impressive on both fronts
1) How could the only Xbone exclusive and just general big release of the first half of this year not outsell most other games
2) How could NioH sell so well among so many fucking releases, which generally also sold well within what one would expect out of them

Hasn't played the game confirmed

You want to really know? Because 343, that's why. What new leader did they release as DLC to generate buzz? Was it:

>sgt Johnson
>master chief
>one of the prophets from halo 2
>Cortana
>captain/Miranda Keyes
>the arbiter
>le edgy minority female no ones heard about

Take a guess which one they chose. Decisions like these are why halo wars 2 was doomed before production began. Fuck 343. Just let halo die.

Because Halo is long dead thanks to 343. Halo 5 itself sold very poorly, a spinoff sequel in an unpopular genre was never going to sell. Halo Wars 1 came out close to the peak of Halo's popularity and even then RTS games weren't meant for controller and it had to compromise a lot of complexity and depth to do it. That made it a game in an already niche genre that doesn't interest most fans of it. Literally no one wanted a sequel to it, the RTS genre is practically completely dead now and even still the fans of it don't want an ultra casual one on a dead console set in a franchise that has been raped and ruined by MS and 343.

Agree that 343 is shit, and Halo needs to die. However, they could have mad any of your choices dlc, and no buzz would be created. It's a God damn RTS. Nobody gives a shit about those on console.

PS4 outsells it 2 to 1, not 10 to 1. It's just double the units. However, it got waaay more than double the games in this quarter, so overall console sales alone don't make up for that. Especially like OP said when HaloWars2 was marketed more than any random jap game. You saw it on EVERY MS statement about 2017 games, like their "Look forward to these 2017 exclusives!" posts, or even in the cancelation of Scalebound post, they threw Halowars2 in there. It was there whenever MS opened their mouths.

Sony pretty much only talked about Horizon. Yakuza0, GravityRush2, NioH, and many others got very little marketing internationally

>1.6 million


Dead fucking wrong, stop lying. It leads by over 10 million in the U.S. alone.

No one literally gives a fuck about Halo Wars, it doesn't matter who is in control Bungie or 343 nobody wanted some casualized console RTS. When Halo 6 is announced to be a Chief focused game at E3 then you will start to hear about Halo again. Halo Wars 1 only sold because it was a new take on Halo, that's it.

Halo 4 and 5 fucking sucked. I was the biggest halo fan around till 4. 5 just confirmed that the series is dead.

At least they're not Bioware.

Nobody cares about Halo period. Halo 5 was a complete flop in and of itself. If a Halo 6 even happens at this point, which is absolutely not a guarantee now that this also utterly failed to sell, no one is going to care and it will still sell even less. Halo is long past being a big, popukar franchise. 343 killed it on top of Bungie closing it out satisfactorily 7 years ago.

>a souls clone, a release of a game from 2 years ago, a mediocre capeshit game and a shitty action game with feels

you give weeaboos an inch and they take a mile

can't wait until "waifu high school simulator 5" comes out and it's GOTY because you can handfuck a 15 year old

See

>ps4 finally gets a second & a third game
>after 3 long years
>sotyrones act like they're drowning in games
poor guys

4 has a good story with shit multiplayer. and 5 has by far the worst story and a pretty fun multiplayer.

None are good games though.

PS4 has 50+M install base, even weebier souls clone can do good with those numbers

Good thing that we're talking about the fucking NA numbers then and not the world wide sales.

i love this meme
you get only one meme point though because you forgot the frog

Halo 5 sold worse then previous Halo but it didn't flop and Halo 4 almost sold better than Halo Reach. No one gives a fuck about your Metroid Prime series of Halo. Even if Halo was back to its Halo 3 days, this piece of shit would have still failed because nobody wants this garbage, fuck off.

That's still a 20+ million unit lead you retarded shill. Stop trying to move the goalposts. The Xbone didn't sell, the PS4 has to a massive degree. End of story.

Unfortunately no one plays Gigantic when Overwatch and now Bootleg Overwatch are available. Sadly it's the better game.

Ok, checked some web and NA PS4 sales are somewhere around 15M while WORLDWIDE XBONE sales are at 10M, assuming most of that is in US because japs aren't that big on XBOX, SONY still have a big number advantage.

Halo 5 was absolutely a flop, only sold 2 million. Halo Wars 1 sold a whole lot more than that. Fucking kill yourself 343 shill.

>WORLDWIDE XBONE sales are at 10M
gamespot.com/articles/xbox-one-sales-reach-26-million-report/1100-6447023/

>tons of more PS4's sold worldwide and especially in Japan
>release a Japanese game
>"HOLY SHIT DUDE IT SOLD MORE THAN A CONSOLE RTS ON A CONSOLE THAT IS PREDOMINANTLY SOLD IN AMERICA AND EUROPE"

You know you are too engulfed in console wars when you have to become retarded to try to shitpost.

>Halo Wars 2
>Console spinoff RTS
>one of microsofts biggest AAA exclusives this year?
Nah, son.

NPD numbers are NA only.

its babby's first souls clone now. Game got way easier since alpha

And yet it made more money than every Halo game before because of REQs packs.

>rts that you can use a controller with
>a dark souls clone that's better than dark souls
gee whiz i wonder why

You fail to realize that I mentioned that it is a console *RTS*. Not only is it the shittiest way to play an RTS, but it is in the US where people don't give a fuck about the genre as much as Asia. Let alone people giving a fuck about Halo anymore. And don't forget the fact that the PS4 sold like hotcakes here.

So half your post is just useless filler that has actually nothing to do with your argument?

It sold over 5 million dipshit, Halo Wars 1 was like Metroid Prime new and a fresh take on Halo. Halo Wars 2 is not new or a fresh take, after playing Halo Wars 1 people didn't want a fucking sequel except a niche community. If Halo was still popular I still wouldn't buy this piece of shit. If I wanted a RTS I would get a REAL one on the PC not a babified one for consoles.

its so satisfying to watch the xbox brand crash and burn into the ground after all the bullshit and lies they've spouted. what happened to that universal windows platform thing? gears of war 4 turned out to not be cross play, halo 5 isnt on pc, forge pc has no match making. the way they portrayed it, almost every game was going to be on win10 and xbone, with cross platform functionality. what they delivered has been pathetic, and they dont even mention uwp anymore.

what is coming this year? there is literally nothing. fucking nothing. fingers crossed scorpio is an abortion and the xbox brand just fades into obscurity.

Because despite Nioh being sorta boring after you beat it it was still fun to play, unlike a spin off RTS sequel no one asked for.

Not that guy but I do feel drowned in games right now, just finished Tales of Berseria and Nier Automata, and I started Yakuza 0 while Ni-oh is still in the unopened box, We will get Persona 5 a couple of weeks.

Not to mention I want to play HZD and Gravity Rush 2 but those can wait.

Halo Wars is a game only diehard Halo fanboys who read the novels and shit like me would appreciate.

Forge has matchmaking now.

The scorpio actually has some real potential, it just has no games, so they really need to announce some good games to look forward to, also the price point needs to be good enough to interest people, otherwise yeah, it's dead in the water.

Not him but Scorpio is a Windows 10 PC-lite so technically it does have games because it's Windows 10. Xbone has no games and eventually Microsoft will finally kill the piece of shit.

i am him.

what games does scorpio have? i have a windows 10 pc and there is nothing good on the windows store. rise of tomb raider? gears 4? quantum break? hitman go? windows store is garbage compared to literally all their competitors.

there's nothing. unless you meant that scorpio will be able to use steam or something. but that cant be right.

Wait for Crackdown or Sea of Thieves, you should have just got the Scorpio since it has everything Windows 10 and the Xbone have without Microsoft's spyware.

...

lol no thanks.

my pc runs games at non-filmic frame rates and actual high definition resolutions.

Crackdown is cancelled user. They haven't shown or talked about it in 2 years. It's dead. They'll be announcing that soon, they had to wait a while after the Scalebound cancellation.

Probably for the best, it looked more like a tech demo than a good game. At least we still have 1aka the best 360 exclusive

Nioh is a legitimately good game. I'm gonna go play it now.

>being too underage to know who team ninja is

>Crackdown is cancelled user
I'm retarded the post

Well good luck to you, glad I'm getting the better optimized versions on the Scorpio, cuck.