Is it playable with controller?

Is it playable with controller?

Of course. It's console trash so it was made with a controller in mind.

It was literally made with consoles in mind.

Yes but mkb is better because it's designed for both.

barely playable without one

It works, but I found it to be really clunky with a controller, don't even think the PC port had controller button prompts

yes.
controller is much worse, especially for menus and that's saying something.

it's a shame witcher threads are no longer like they used to be.
I liked all the games in the series.
1 was the best.

>playing third person games with controller
>move camera OR press buttons

Choose ONE


and people on here think controllers are better for 3rd person games. top kek lads.

Blame the shills and their insufferable, endless shilling.

That's all people expect when they see a thread pop up now because that's all it is/was 90% of the time.

And, let's be honest, there's really not much to discuss after everyone finishes the story because as games they're pretty poor.

this
these are bad memes that people have been saying for 5 years even though it's obviously not true

>there's really not much to discuss after everyone finishes the story because as games they're pretty poor.
you missed on some good threads over the past decade, friend.

>It's a meme because I don't want to accept it

They made major design and technical concessions to get it working well enough on the 360, it was literally and factually made with that console in mind.

According to Sup Forums, any game on PC that also has a console version is either "A bad console port" or "Made with consoles in mind so it's shit"

on a gameplay front it is perfectly designed for kb+m and plays objectively better with it than a controller

No, I missed a glorified book club. I want to discuss games, not stories, on Sup Forums, and they're just not very good games. The combat is always clunky, the RPG elements are shallow, the games have always relied on their stories and games just aren't that great a story-telling medium. Of course you can tell a story with a game, but the things that make a good linear, structured narrative work against what makes a game engaging. That player agency and choice is often detrimental to a narrative that must be told in a certain way, in a certain sequence. Games can do more than present the player with a narrative.

>games just aren't that great a story-telling medium
The Witcher 2 is arguably a thesis on why this statement is wrong

he's not wrong. the design choices were bad, but 2 console port wasn't even considered until after release. while 2 was in development they were just trying to stay afloat and not go bankrupt because they were swindled trying to outsource a project to another studio.
that other studio got signed on, made some early work builds, got a bunch of money from CDPR to keep working and then took the money and ran.
after TW2 made it's money back after release, then that's when they started considering making a console port.

KB+M is objectively better for things like FPS and RTS where the mouse is crucial. but keyboards are just shit for games. They were not designed for playing games, they were designed for typing.

okay. buddy. people that want to be upset 24/7 and rather post in threads about games they don't like instead of games they do like are the reason this board is Sup Forums levels of shit.

Giving the player freedom works against a structured narrative. And without that freedom, you've got a crappy game.

>keyboards are just shit for games
underage.

>they were designed for typing.
and they work great for games
Ironic how controllers which are designed for games are almost always worse than keyboards when it comes to playing games
you're just wrong, and there isn't any argument to be had

>but keyboards are just shit for games.

when did neo-v took over this shithole?

>freedom works against a structured narrative. And without that freedom, you've got a crappy game.

>Everything is black and white, you're either a raving fanboy like me or you hate absolutely everything
Nice argument

Story-games are usually bad games for many of the same reasons I'm sure you'd agree a film that just focuses on dazzling special effects is bad. That's not where the actual substance comes from.

lol ok kid

t. 20 year old

bout 4 years ago.

>Everything is black and white, you're either a raving fanboy like me or you hate absolutely everything
except that's literally what you're doing
>you missed some good threads
>no I missed literal bookclubs for bad storytelling games
>Story-games are usually bad
>you're the one with the black and white opinions though
also I wasn't arguing in my post. I didn't even address anything you mentioned.

>Is it playable
It's a Witcher "game" so no

>Ironic how controllers which are designed for games are almost always worse than keyboards when it comes to playing games
lolno

Moving a character in a 3D space is objectively better with a stick, or just something that's not WASD.

You play FPS and RTS with KB+M because the mouse was designed for exactly what you're doing in those games: Precise, fast pointing-and-clicking.

Would you argue a platformer is better with a fucking keyboard than a Dpad too?

>Using memes from 201X
>Calling others underage

more genres are played more efficiently with a KB+M than a controller.
there's a reason cross-platform matchmaking has been looked into and the scrapped.

>Moving a character in a 3D space is objectively better with a stick, or just something that's not WASD
wrong
buttons are better because it's faster to switch directions aka give you more accurate control

having mouselook gives you a 360 degree frame of reference for those 8 directions of movement with wasd

your admission of kb+m being better for FPS proves this

>Would you argue a platformer is better with a fucking keyboard than a Dpad too?
yes wasd is better than a dpad because it's faster and more accurate

I gave you reasons as to why I came to the conclusion I did. You just dismissed it all immediately with
>lol u just h8 all gaems
I don't hate all games, I hate story-games because they're usually poor games with shallow systems and mechanics and little/no replay value. Because the developers focused on telling a story and making pretty graffix instead of a good game.

RTS and Shooters
I don't think sports, racing, or action adventure games would do well on a keyboard

>there's a reason cross-platform matchmaking has been looked into and the scrapped.
Yeah, FPS and RTS, I already addressed that. Those are better played with KB+M because of the mouse.

>give you more accurate control
>your admission of kb+m being better for FPS proves this
All on the mouse, friend.

>lol u just h8 all gaems
I never once said that. I said you would rather post in threads about games you don't like.
you just skimming over my posts and inserting your own strawman to argue against.
I only mentioned one thing to set off your sperging and that was that you missed out on some nice threads in the past.

I put a lot of time in the souls series both on console and PC.
even DaS1 was easier with M+KB. I did my SL1 run with KB+M.

>people that want to be upset 24/7 and rather post in threads about games they don't like instead of games they do like are the reason this board is Sup Forums levels of shit.
This is not an argument, this is shitposting.

How about you respond to the actual content of the post instead of bitching and moaning about opinions that aren't yours?

Kind of ironic you complain about "Sup Forums-levels of shit" when your posts have contributed nothing constructive and have actually diverted the conversation away from discussion of the game.

Negative opinions are still on-topic game discussion and aren't shitposts just because you disagree.

>This is not an argument
I never said it was, in fact I explicitly said
>I wasn't arguing in my post. I didn't even address anything you mentioned.
like I said you don't even bother reading what someone says. you want to argue about games you don't like.

I'll smoke you in MKWii with the tilt controls, but just because I'm good at it doesn't make it not awkward or inferior to other ways to control the game. I just got used to it and can compensate.

KB+M is simply and factually not better than a controller for everything. It is better at a lot of things, and the mouse is usually what makes its better, but not everything.

Right, so you're just openly admitting to whining and shitposting, then.

>you want to discuss games on Sup Forums
Yeah, I should have known better, sorry.

Again, negative opinions and negative talking points are still perfectly on-topic. Go back to your hugbox or just don't respond if you don't like it and have nothing to actually contribute.

>doesn't make it not awkward or inferior
it's not awkward if you rebind your keys and can type without looking at your KB. you can have it setup in virtually any way you please. that's one reason it's so good.

>negative opinions and negative talking points are still perfectly on-topic. Go back to your hugbox or just don't respond if you don't like it and have nothing to actually contribute.
are you even listening in the slightest, man? you seem to be completely missing the point. I was never arguing with you to begin with.

>I was never arguing with you to begin with.
Right, then you were just shitposting with off-topic nonsense

The very nature of using it is awkward for a lot of genres though, that's the point. You get 8-directional movement with WASD, that's just not as precise as a stick with full 360 degrees of movement. I wouldn't want to use WASD to control a character in a 3D space any more than I'd want to use a Dpad, and I wouldn't want to use WASD in place of a Dpad for a 2D game either.

what a lost cause.

>Resorting to reaction images
Yup, just more shitposting.

put shit in, get shit out.

Yes, you're full of it, we've established that :^)

>The very nature of using it
the nature of being able to press every mappable button at a moment's notice? or the fact that mouse is what is generally used for controlling the camera allowing for more precision than a controller?
and the simple addition of having a toggle speed for movement all but negates the benefit of the joystick?

you should really work on that reading comprehension.

This argument is getting embarrassing, anons.

>the nature of being able to press every mappable button at a moment's notice?
Yeah, great for stuff like RTS or MMOs, not necessary at all for something a platformer or an action game. Which is what I've said about a half-dozen times already.
>the camera allowing for more precision than a controller?
Yeah, that's the mouse.
>and the simple addition of having a toggle speed for movement all but negates the benefit of the joystick?
Or I could just not bother with that and use a stick for things like action games or a Dpad for 2D games, because that's what they were made for.

Why can't you just admit that KB+M is not the end-all, be-all for absolutely everything, and that there are in fact some things it does not do as well as a dedicated pad? Will your head explode or something?